Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[Flay Gunnar]

votecount 1.17

itlepip (4) - Spiffeh, MarioManiac4, 3dicerolling, Cold Pizza
Spiffeh (1) - itlepip
Maxous (2) - Antihero, Vayne Aurelius
notscience (1) - CharlotteBebe
Suzune (3) - Saki, Gilgamesh King Of Heroes, Maxous
Saki (1) - notscience

Not voting (2) - Zexion, Suzune

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 12, 12:30 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-11-12 12:30:00).

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Mod Notes:

Still searching for a replacement for Zexion

Saki has been prodded! This is their second prod

[notscience]

These are some great wagons that's for sure.

[Suzune]

Okay, I am about to make a serious effort to get my head into this game.

[Suzune]

For anyone who panicks and thinks, she posted that but is not doing anything. I am rereading the topic a lot more carefully this time.

[Suzune]

and we are town! and in a hood with spiffeh!

Good news I found the neighborhood post. However the wording was very difficult to understand, it would have been much better if you had spelled out neighborhood because I never expected it to be shortened to hood.

Okay, I wrote little notes on this game the second read through. So I feel comfortable placing my vote on
VOTE: Spiffeh

I realise that this is an odd choice since I partially read him the first time. However, when I read the game in context I was far less impressed. I think he has gotten by most of the game pushing a really strange read with very little reason. To be fair, I am a tad bias on this one because the scum read started because of a joke. I did not find that itlepip reaction was unusual in any way and I felt like any time he/she (sorry, I did not check), he tried to defend themself or make a comment about why it was silly Spiffeh just kind of tossed it back at him. It struck me as one of those you lose by posting kind of situation. However, I do not feel that itlepip was wrong to commit to it and I also find it strange that the read itself has not been expanded on over time. People linger on that vote but it is little more then saying follow me lynch itlepip.

A few other things that caught my eye was the debate about the miller and whether how that should be handled. In the early phases of the game is the right time to make a choice based on this. I do find the balance kind of strange having a neighbhorhood and a miller. Seems kind of strange because that is like confirming three townies right off the bat. So that is where I draw my question about the claim from. I know that Titus has said a million times not to do that, but bad habits die hard.

[Spiffeh]

Could you point to the post where you think I "tossed back at him"?

[Suzune]

post 261

Sorry this one is the response by itlpip but it has the post I want inside of it. Also this one as well post 262. Since i cannot see a good reason to keep the vote you are implying that there is something else when that post is about maxious rather then the situation you are voting for. Seems like you are keeping light and airy votes rather then reading the people. Almost like you are trying to see how many people you can get to follow you.

[Saki]

catchup post

but i don't really see the exchange as TvS, it reads more TvT (esp. "god i hope u are scum" stuff)

i meant SvS, not TvS/TvT
there's no way that notsci/cb are scum together (it's really hard to have improv arguments) but either/or could be scum

it's the other person who's been acting like a double voter all game

holy fucking shit is that what it was
lol i just noticed the double vote, let alone the....damn

uh.... fucking what?

since when has a neg utility claim EVER been a towntell to you?

really forced towntell from mollie
kudos to anti for catching it

mod: replace me

Unvote: Maxous

I'm going to wait until this settles down a bit and I look over the thread again to place my vote.

i dont like this for some reason
why unvote at all, its d1

Ah, I'm sorry I forgot. I have never replaced in as someone who had a vote before. Usually they are voteless so I did not consider.
UNVOTE:
I will place a new vote when I am sure of a new place. I apologize.

checks out.

Wait, Saki why are you voting Suzune?

it was a pretty obvious pressure vote

I apologize, I am kind of scurrying

sums up suzune. scatterbrained(if you dont mind me using that word) play. not really alignment-indicative if genuine

VOTE: Suzune

Max should be vigged if possible. Your true King demands it.

suzune vote, max vig is a plus

The cretins practicing the dark magicks are Saki, Antihero, and Gilgamesh.

VOTE: Saki

That is all.

what the fuuuck
why
spiffeh did he give any evidence in the neighborhood

Because he's scumreading me while simultaneously not actually reading my posts and passing off a read as gut.

He's not actually reading my posts as I've referred to myself as a knight several times and his post referred to me as a king, which, if you were reading someone's posts closely enough to get a bearing on their alignment and especially if you were trying to divine associative tells from their posting, missing a detail that persisted through the ISO is pretty fucking sketchy.

im pretty sold on this.

what do you feel now about suzune?

again, suzune pressure....
i dont like it, idk why

unvote, vote: Suzune

...

Moderate-scummy. It's a fragile read, though.

my thoughts exactly

"soft targets" are not automatically town

yes, everyone knows that
but why not go for a low hanging fruit d1 instead of a lynch that would give us more info (spiffeh, notscience, CB, maxous)

These are some great wagons that's for sure.

i agree

For anyone who panicks and thinks, she posted that but is not doing anything. I am rereading the topic a lot more carefully this time.

im really glad you're deciding to do this instead of trying to lurk off the pressure

[Saki]

i am not liking how my pressure vote on suzune turned into a wagon
i think there is at least one scum on the wagon
so gilg/maxous

current reads

(town)
Saki
Cold Pizza (IC)
=======
(leaning town)
notscience
Antihero
itlepip
=======
(unsorted/iffy)
Spiffeh
Suzune
Mariomaniac4
3dicerolling
Zexion
=======
(leaning scum)
CharlotteBebe
GKOH
Maxous

[Saki]

current reads

(town)
Saki
Cold Pizza (IC)
=======
(leaning town)
notscience (neighbors w/ spiffeh, doublevoter, not scum with CB)
Antihero
itlepip
=======
(unsorted/iffy)
Spiffeh (neighbors with notscience)
Suzune (replacement)
Mariomaniac4
3dicerolling
Zexion (being replaced)
=======
(leaning scum)
CharlotteBebe
GKOH (something to do with notty's flavor)
Maxous (miller claim)

edited with notes.

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gilgamesh

[Saki]

(also, @everyone, i will now on refer to gilgamesh as 'greg,' please take note & laugh at the inside joke if you can)

[Antihero]

so... instead of voting the wagon you're leaning scum on + 2 votes you start a new vanity wagon...

awesome... i'll go fuck myself now.

[CharlotteBebe]

You could use a better vote target, Anti.

-Ank

[Antihero]

i could also use a golden scepter to shove up my ass but i don't see anyone handing me one

[itlepip]

i could also use a golden scepter to shove up my ass but i don't see anyone handing me one

I'll give you one if you vote spiffeh :P

[CharlotteBebe]

I really feel like I should have gotten a significant townread on you by now, Anti.

The fact that it hasn't happened yet is really disturbing.

-Ank

[Antihero]

so... is this the part where you give me a boring lecture about how i need to do something or else you'll scumread me?

or is this the part where you actually give me the scumread?

[CharlotteBebe]

VOTE: Antihero

[Antihero]

oh no, oh no... i better not let ank down. now that he's voting me i'm very motivated to do something.

/fart

[Maxous]

suzune, that's a million times better

unvote, vote: MarioManiac4

your turn^

[Flay Gunnar]

Gilgamesh King Of Heroes has been prodded

[notscience]

Btw I'm strongly townreading maxous fom the miller claim

ohno

im doing it too

[Gilgamesh King Of Heroes]

i could also use a golden scepter to shove up my ass but i don't see anyone handing me one

My treasury contains endless golden scepters. You, however, are unworthy to lay your hands on one. Shame.

[Gilgamesh King Of Heroes]

Notty, why did you ask someone else for their read on Suzune while dodging my question of "What is your read on Suzune?"?