Touhou UPick 4 - [Aborted]

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not buying anyone town/scum based on fuzzy feelings about who might be easier to lynch / harder to lynch at this particular point in time

Do you have anything better to go with

at this particular point in time

then?

[borkjerfkin]

actually there's not a lot of point in being subtle

reason #3:

Vote: notscience

have you had pregame interactions with pie/ns?

[zMuffinMan]

no

[The_Relentless]

@Sakura: Katsuki also voted muffin... what do you think of Katsuki's vote? also, how does the muffin vote outweigh the town points from the positive utility card in your opinion? (and why wouldn't scum use a positive utility card to look genuine?)
also Sakura how are u reading me based on my vote on you. just wondering

pie, explain your Sakura vote?

I've failed reading twice today so I'm gonna take a break from posting, peace.

[borkjerfkin]

I'm not buying anyone town/scum based on fuzzy feelings about who might be easier to lynch / harder to lynch at this particular point in time

Do you have anything better to go with

at this particular point in time

then?

no, but that's a false dichotomy

above @sakura

[borkjerfkin]

followup to muffin question:

I have a serious town read on noddy, a serious scum read on zmuffin

was this part fluff/meta (i know the part i didn't quote was) or is this relevant in any non-meta way?

[Sakura Hana]

Katsuki also voted muffin... what do you think of Katsuki's vote?

Katsuki being Katsuki

also, how does the muffin vote outweigh the town points from the positive utility card in your opinion? (and why wouldn't scum use a positive utility card to look genuine?)
also Sakura how are u reading me based on my vote on you. just wondering

Don't see any scum motivation for dropping that card when the majority of the playerlist will be alive.


Thinking about it over, considering scum doesn't have a factional kill... it doesn't really make much of a difference other than... extending the deadline of the next day?

[zMuffinMan]

i'm not voting notscience because i think he's scum (although he very well could be, #gamblersaxiom always right etc)

i'm voting him so you see a shiny number 5 next to his name in the next votecount

[Sakura Hana]

no, but that's a false dichotomy

I am aware, but that's what i want to go with at this point in time, why do you take issue with that?

[borkjerfkin]

i don't? I just don't agree

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: pieguy
Yeah scum having no factional kill makes night talk not that useful if the same ammount of ppl are gonna be alive next day.

[Sakura Hana]

i don't? I just don't agree

Well you're free to disagree, i find it pointless to have neutral reads on everyone just because nothing has happened, i found a reason to townread muffin for right now so i'll have it.

[Sakura Hana]

also Sakura how are u reading me based on my vote on you. just wondering

I'm null reading you.

[borkjerfkin]

I dig sakura

[Sakura Hana]

thing with muffin is not that he's easier/harder to lynch, it's that he's pretty much impossible to lynch unless he's town.

[borkjerfkin]

or scum have weird voting mechanics

I have weird voting mechanics; it's not hard to imagine others might too.

[Sakura Hana]

So you think mafia has an unlimited quadravoter gladiator that takes 4 more votes to lynch?

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.2

• notscience [
  5
  ] - zMuffinMan (x4)
  
• pieguyn [
  4
  ] - Feysal, borkjerfkin, Sakura Hana
  
• Sakura Hana [1] - pieguyn
  
• zMuffinMan [
  -3
  ] - Katsuki
  
• Shadoweh [0] -
  
• Sky_Paladin [0] -
  
• The_Relentless [0] -
  
• GuyInFreezer [0] -
  
• SXTLHGaiden [0] -
  
• Katsuki [0] -
  
• Kagami [0] -
  
• Feysal [1] - Sky_Paladin
  
• borkjerfkin [0] -
  
• thdgkdms [0] -
  
• Kilgamayan [
  4
  ] - thdgkdms
  
• Chocola [1] - The_Relentless

Not Voting [7]

- notscience, Shadoweh, GuyInFreezer, SXTLHGaiden, Kagami, Kilgamayan, Chocola

With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch

.

Deadline is November 15, 2015, at 2 PM PST.
Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2015-11-15 16:00:00)

Notes:

• You cannot target Katsuki with spellcards in this Day Phase, unless your vote is on Katsuki.
  
• The main thread will remain open in the coming Night Phase.

[borkjerfkin]

assuming all that stuff is true it's pretty ridiculous sounding regardless of which side it's on

p-edit: I see the quadruple-vote.

I'm just saying the more crazy power you put in the game the less obvious "X must be town/scum" is

[The_Relentless]

is Chocola supposed to have 0 votes, if so I may have to rethink my case............

while I'm posting again to ask for clarification I'll say I'm feeling town!Sakura now cuz she's much more tryhard than she was when we were buddies in the last UPick which is jumping out at me

VC fixed. -mod

[Sakura Hana]

Well if you want to have neutral reads be my guest, i just don't see that as scum right now, i mean i've seen muffin fake claim pretty weird stuff as scum before (dat novice reflexive fruit vendor) but i just don't see him as scum right now.

[zMuffinMan]

Unvote

i'll probably be refraining from voting for the most part, just fyi

wagons are more interesting when i'm not literally half the votes on them

(also, i imagine like half the player list has vote manipulation mechanics - in one form or another - just due to the nature of this particular game)

(i imagine at least two scum players have weird voting mechanics, so i wouldn't write anyone off as town for weird voting mechanics)

(except me, i'm town)

[Sakura Hana]

I'll say I'm feeling town!Sakura now cuz she's much more tryhard than she was when we were buddies in the last UPick which is jumping out at me

While it's true that it's easier for me to get disinterested as scum, that time i had rolled scum like 3 times in a row and since i hate being scum i just couldn't get motivated enough to try that game, if you're gonna townread me for this, please don't.

[borkjerfkin]

Well if you want to have neutral reads be my guest, i just don't see that as scum right now, i mean i've seen muffin fake claim pretty weird stuff as scum before (dat novice reflexive fruit vendor) but i just don't see him as scum right now.

You've made that clear and I'm not taking umbrage with the fact that you

have

that thought process.

But yes I'll have null reads until I have town/scum reads and I don't even want to talk about that anymore because (duh / potential for dumb semantic argument)

[Sakura Hana]

I agree that this line of questioning is pointless.