Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[MarioManiac4]

Is that all you got Mario?

unfortunately.

[Spiffeh]

What else do you find scummy about Suzune other than her "weird" post you quoted?

[MarioManiac4]

Is that all you got Mario?

unfortunately.

Wait who is this gilgamesh guy and why does nobody seem to talk about him?

Also, on the scuminess of miller claims; I see them as almost exclusively town. I know some scum go ahead and do it anyway, but not so many.
The quality of scum seems to be fairly high in the game, from my lack of finding scumreads. I don't think they'd claim a role that would almost certainly end up getting them lynched anyway. The way Maxous did it, just saying "I'm miller" and not milking the towncred dry, is far more likely to come from town, IMO.
In fact you can put Maxous above Spiffeh in the list.

Pedit: Mostly just awkwardness.
I'd like a response on why so I can delve into that. Sometimes one hole in the scum-ship can end up propping others and sinking it.

[itlepip]

Actually, I like most of Spiffeh's posts that don't pertain to me, as few as they are. Mario I don't like at all here. His gutlist seems to be more based on quality of posts than actual scum intent, the people that are the lowest on his seem to be the ones that would be least likely to rail on him for his list. I don't understand Mario's point about Suzanne at all, null reading someone that hasn't posted much seems reasonable to me.

VOTE: Mario

PEdit: because he has only 3-4 posts so far, your Pedit kinda proves my point about you.

[Spiffeh]

itlepip could you respond to post 607?

[Suzune]

as in you're

saying things

but you're not really giving opinions on who the town/scum is etc.

p-edit: @suzune

though uhh, I COULD vote Mario again if he doesn't give us anything

I thought it was pretty clear that I thought it was kind of scummy to want to hammer someone just because you wanted to. I apologise that it was not clear.

[itlepip]

I'm not planning to, I'm just having problems figuring out why I have the biggest wagon right now. Spiffeh I have gone over, die and maxous jsut sseems to be voting me for lurking. Mario has admitted to not having any reads at this point so I don't consider that an 'actual' vote on my slot until he explains his read, which he should do if he isn't planning to unvote.

For Maxous, you shouldn't just PoE between the biggest wagons, so the whole Saki is more towny than itle I don't actually take as a scumread. Personally I don't actually read Saki as scum, the whole red post thing was dumb, in nearly all games a single mafia faction is red, if I make a name red everyone knows that means a mafia read on that person. I think Saki's wagon is a little suspect as well, I think notty is fairly towny but both CB and Gil and have recent posts that had some logic that felt flimsy to me, so I think both of them are slight scumleans for me.

itlepip all these reads are very noncommittal and fluffy.

Why is Saki's wagon suspect?
Why do you think notty is town?
What posts made you feel that CB and Gil had flimsy logic?

1. Because I think the CB and Gil potentially scum and I don't really see the reasoning for the wagon, one the big concerns I have is that I'm not happy with any of the wagons we have today, so I think there is a very good chance of a mislynch today.
2. I liked both Molly and Notty's early posts in the hydra and Notty recent play doesn't indicate any scumminess.
3. In 500 Gil seems to be misrepping Saki fairly hard. CB I think I am going to have to work on, they seem to either be town pushing or scum fence sitting depending on how I read it. I like the logic but CB seems to be reading the majority of the people in the thread as scum. Also I kinda feel pocketed.

[Suzune]

Why do you state a nullread on me with the four reads you give?
Seems a bit weird to me.

I find it unusual that you have such a hard time having reads. You are always playing catch up but then you decide to finally post something and you scum read me for a having a null read on you. I would kind of like to see more from your slot.

[MarioManiac4]

Why do you state a nullread on me with the four reads you give?
Seems a bit weird to me.

I find it unusual that you have such a hard time having reads. You are always playing catch up but then you decide to finally post something and you scum read me for a having a null read on you. I would kind of like to see more from your slot.

I don't scumread you for having a nullread on me.
Try again.

[Flay Gunnar]

votecount 1.23

itlepip (4) - Spiffeh, 3dicerolling, Cold Pizza, Maxous
Spiffeh (2) - Suzune, CharlotteBebe
Maxous (2) - Antihero, Vayne Aurelius
Saki (1) - Gilgamesh King Of Heroes
CharlotteBebe (1) - Saki
MarioManiac4 (3) - Titus, notscience, itlepip
Suzune (1) - MarioManiac4

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 12, 12:30 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-11-12 12:30:00).

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Mod Notes:

GuyInFreezer head of Cold Pizza is V/LA until today.
Gilgamesh King Of Heroes is V/LA until today.

[Flay Gunnar]

Rogue (notscience + malakittens) replaces notscience

[Titus]

Hi mala! Catching up noe.

[Rogue]

HWLLO.

I'll be catching up shortly.

Which will likely be a 50/50 catch up.

I'm excited to fight the baddies

:3

~R

[Titus]

like seriously, how are you even trying to hardpush someone as scum for using a word that i used to describe the back-and-forth between the two of you?
that doesnt make any sense.
at all.

Are you seriously boiling down my reasons for scum reading him to that?
Yes that is a contributing factor but it is not the only reason why I am hard-pushing him.

Then why the F are you hard pushing me. For someone that goes on and on about not responding to posts you haven't responded to any of my recent ones and I have at least addressed all of your posts or explained why they were BS. I'm not even positive that you are scum here, but you seemed just to pick someone to death-tunnel and you seem so stuck on that one read without giving any good explanation, that play doesn't make any sense from a town point of view unless you are an insane early-start cop that got a scum result on me.

Rather wierded out by the cop suggestion

Tunnelling is usually done by town more than scum (I am an exception)

The waffling reads like frustrated town though.

[Titus]

oh wow 8 pages already

But with Saki and Navizel and stuff I'm not gonna take any chances.

And I know exactly what will make Antihero's day even worse.

a varsoon innocent child.

MOD DANCE WITH ME

is that you gif
what did you mean by this

So apparently this guy couldn't read the bit that came right after this- a.k.a "Cold Pizza is Town."?
Will try to look at Suzune's post closer.
I disagree with the "town team" point, though.

So this is the best I can get, mostly from gut;

MarioManiac4
Cold Pizza
Spiffeh
Maxous
CharlotteBebe
notscience
Saki
3dicerolling
Titus
Antihero
Gilgamesh King of Heroes
itlepip
Suzune

So;
VOTE: Suzune

Disagrees with my point on Suzune, yet votes Suzune anyway. He provides no thought of his own. Totally fine with an MM lynch.

[Titus]

Why do you state a nullread on me with the four reads you give?
Seems a bit weird to me.

I find it unusual that you have such a hard time having reads. You are always playing catch up but then you decide to finally post something and you scum read me for a having a null read on you. I would kind of like to see more from your slot.

I don't scumread you for having a nullread on me.
Try again.

Your reason would be great because right now I don't see one beyond convience at all.

[Rogue]

Mmk.

Ah, Just took me until pages to figure out that CB is a hydra, but none of the less, I don't actually like the slot. xD

I also don't like Itlepip

also what the fuck am i reading?!?

Oh lovely. I actually thought all of Saki posts was Ank hydra slipping. FML

MM4 pinged my gut for 300.

I like Suz's replace in though :3

Wow Mollie :[ WHY MUST YOU DISAGREE WITH MY READS. (which is actually normal for any mollie hydra for us).

(k fuck off country owl city song. -.-)

K

I'm kinda done reading this clusterfuck of a game.

I'll engage players and get reads from there since this isn't helping me here.

I'm liking Itelpip, Saki for scum, along with CB, MM4 is another plus. I'm going to guess that one of these are wrong though, but if I had to pick it probably would be CB.
Max & Suz are townleans.
Rest of you I'd figure it out through interactions

~R

[Rogue]

VOTE: Saki

NOTTY COME DANCE WITH ME.

~R

[Titus]

Comment on 639?

[Rogue]

Hey titus

what are your current reads?

I'm aware that you don't really catch up in terms of reading, but I want to know what you think about Saki. Please and thankies :3

~R

[Titus]

@Gork, just realized Bebe is you plus Ank. Can you have him fill me in on your AH thoughts?

[Rogue]

I have to do a quick skim on MM4. I have played with him a few times, but I'm more or less wanting to read him in WTP2 again, but there's been things by him I don't really like so far. I don't disagree with that scum read at all.

~R

[Titus]

Hey titus

what are your current reads?

I'm aware that you don't really catch up in terms of reading, but I want to know what you think about Saki. Please and thankies :3

~R

Ambivalent. I quit caring what he had to say when he excerpted my posts and said moonlogic. Would hammer no ragrets (lol misspelled on purpose). I don't want do deal with toxic crap when subbing in.

He'll be much easier to read with a flip or two. I'd care more to interact when he's not being a dick.

[CharlotteBebe]

AH thoughts?
not sure i understand.

[Rogue]

ragerts. (i kid)

Well, from my experience with Saki. I'm pretty sure this isn't town-Saki. I have always remember effot!saki = scum!saki.

So if you want we can team up and lynch one of {MM4, saki} and promise each other that the other one will be lynched the next day.

~R