Mini 1735 - Mana Khemia: Mafia in Al-Revis [End]

[Rogue]

Actually nevermind. I'm just going to dig into your meta.

~R

[Suzune]

Edit- ah I pads... That last line should read. Although I do get asked this question a lot

[Rogue]

No, I am afraid I am not the alt for anyone. I am just me. Although info get asked this question a lot.

It's okay. It just means you are really good for a newer player. ^_^ (at least thats what it means when I ask it)

~R

[Suzune]

Actually nevermind. I'm just going to dig into your meta.

~R

Regardless I answered. All my past games are on my wiki go ahead. Personally I am not a fan of using meta, however you are most free to flip through it

[CharlotteBebe]

Ok. Noted, now we need to get off theory while I read up.

Why is MM lynchbait instead of scum?

Because all I remember him doing before that vague reads list was complaining about not being able to get reads.

The list itself didn't catch my eye and I don't think the complaining is alignment indicative by itself. I'd be okay with lynching him in the worst case scenario, but it would be for policy and not because I think he'll flip scum.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=63020

I didn't play in that game.

-Ank

True but I want to see if you think your pattern holds still in a game I know and was in recently.

If you want to add to it, go ahead, but I'm not going to dive and do it myself since I have a very negative view of diving into games you're not in to try to find the more subtle parts of how people play because it's much more valuable to use information that you specifically try to get yourself.

-Ank

[Rogue]

Actually nevermind. I'm just going to dig into your meta.

~R

Regardless I answered. All my past games are on my wiki go ahead. Personally I am not a fan of using meta, however you are most free to flip through it

It's all good. I'm meta'ing merely because your apologetic-ness is actually setting off bells to me, which I already told Notty in LoL. I have skimmed through three games of yours, but it seems like it's something that you do naturally rather than a scum-tell. I have skimmed and seen it in both alignment games. (Which actually makes me feel a bit better).

~R

(Btw if it's not obvious already -- I'm Mala and signing as R, whereas, Notty will either not sign or sign with G)

[MarioManiac4]

Suzune, what I'm asking is why, when you mentioned four reads, you mentioned your inability to get a read on me.
I'm not complaining about you doing that. I'm complaining on why you wanted to state that read, out of the reads you did give.

[Titus]

@ank, the problem I have with mm is not the list. I find Suzune hard to read as I cannot tell if her language foibles are due to scuminess or language barriers. Someone scum reading her doesn't set off alarm bells. What does is the fact he's provided no reason for his Suzune vote but disagreed with the reasons I had issue with her for.

@mm, you might have missed this but why are you voting Ank?

[Titus]

Voting Suzune derp.

[Suzune]

Oh Mario simply because I noticed you were always posting about not knowing rather than saying anything. By marking I would remember that it interested me and I would be able to go back and look at you later. Similiar to having a living record, my reads are alive and adapt now that I can be in the moment.

[CharlotteBebe]

shrug.

I think I have an idea of how to read her from Persona, but I'd have to see it a few more times before I know whether it's reliable in any way or not.

-Ank

[MarioManiac4]

and we are town! and in a hood with spiffeh!

Good news I found the neighborhood post. However the wording was very difficult to understand, it would have been much better if you had spelled out neighborhood because I never expected it to be shortened to hood.

Okay, I wrote little notes on this game the second read through. So I feel comfortable placing my vote on
VOTE: Spiffeh

I realise that this is an odd choice since I partially read him the first time. However, when I read the game in context I was far less impressed. I think he has gotten by most of the game pushing a really strange read with very little reason. To be fair, I am a tad bias on this one because the scum read started because of a joke. I did not find that itlepip reaction was unusual in any way and I felt like any time he/she (sorry, I did not check), he tried to defend themself or make a comment about why it was silly Spiffeh just kind of tossed it back at him. It struck me as one of those you lose by posting kind of situation. However, I do not feel that itlepip was wrong to commit to it and I also find it strange that the read itself has not been expanded on over time. People linger on that vote but it is little more then saying follow me lynch itlepip.

A few other things that caught my eye was the debate about the miller and whether how that should be handled. In the early phases of the game is the right time to make a choice based on this. I do find the balance kind of strange having a neighbhorhood and a miller. Seems kind of strange because that is like confirming three townies right off the bat. So that is where I draw my question about the claim from. I know that Titus has said a million times not to do that, but bad habits die hard.

Suzune, I don't get this case on Spiffeh.
He wants to lynch itlepip and I understand why, but I also don't think it's right, but I can't say why; *ongoing*

[Titus]

Mario, why are you ignoring me?

[MarioManiac4]

Mario, why are you ignoring me?

I'm not ignoring you. I'm going to answer your question by playing the game atm. I don't get Suzune's vote on Spiffeh, is a start.

[Suzune]

I apologise but I do not get it is kind of vague. What is there to not get about it. Looks pretty simple to me. Itlepip commented silly when he should have commented on the events. This in turn bothered spif. So spif voted on him and got a mini wagon started for no reason. Itlepip attempted to confront him about the reason for the train and spif said basically that his reaction was enough to justify the train.

It looks to me like a lucky mistake. I know how frustrating it is to be in that position itlepip was in and with no real case sitting on him the train does not make sense to me. There is the case in a nutshell.

Although to be fair to you Mario. You joined that train for a while for no real reason.

[Flay Gunnar]

votecount 1.25

itlepip (4) - Spiffeh, 3dicerolling, Cold Pizza, Maxous
Spiffeh (2) - Suzune, CharlotteBebe
Maxous (2) - Antihero, Vayne Aurelius
Saki (2) - Gilgamesh King Of Heroes, Rogue
CharlotteBebe (1) - Saki
MarioManiac4 (3) - Titus, itlepip
Suzune (1) - MarioManiac4

Not Voting (0) -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is November 12, 12:30 GMT-7 or in (expired on 2015-11-12 12:30:00).

Please let me know if you see any mistakes

Mod Notes:

Cold Pizza and Gilgamesh King Of Heroes are out of V/LA now and have 24 hours to post or be prodded

[Titus]

Mario, why are you ignoring me?

I'm not ignoring you. I'm going to answer your question by playing the game atm. I don't get Suzune's vote on Spiffeh, is a start.

That's a load of shit. Playing the game in the future 99/100 doesn't reveal why you voted someone in the past on Day 1.

[MarioManiac4]

I apologise but I do not get it is kind of vague. What is there to not get about it. Looks pretty simple to me. Itlepip commented silly when he should have commented on the events. This in turn bothered spif. So spif voted on him and got a mini wagon started for no reason. Itlepip attempted to confront him about the reason for the train and spif said basically that his reaction was enough to justify the train.

It looks to me like a lucky mistake. I know how frustrating it is to be in that position itlepip was in and with no real case sitting on him the train does not make sense to me. There is the case in a nutshell.

Although to be fair to you Mario. You joined that train for a while for no real reason.

Why does it, to you, look like a lucky mistake?
To me, it looked like Spiffeh was pushing itlepip for being too concerned about his appearance.

[MarioManiac4]

Mario, why are you ignoring me?

I'm not ignoring you. I'm going to answer your question by playing the game atm. I don't get Suzune's vote on Spiffeh, is a start.

That's a load of shit. Playing the game in the future 99/100 doesn't reveal why you voted someone in the past on Day 1.

I'm scumreading Suzune because of her uncomfortableness in this game and her vote on Spiffeh.

[Spiffeh]

Antihero can you get off of Maxous please that is not happening.

Also yay pages

[MarioManiac4]

I just noticed Antihero is town.
Because, reasons.

[Rogue]

I just noticed Antihero is town.
Because, reasons.

If it's because of what I think it is, it's actually a null-tell, but go on.

~R

[MarioManiac4]

I just noticed Antihero is town.
Because, reasons.

If it's because of what I think it is, it's actually a null-tell, but go on.

~R

If I say *reasons* it's usually an indicator I don't want to disclose the reason

[Rogue]

Yep it's actually pretty not-funny that you are being all secretly, but it's probably fucking obvious so teetering around it is pretty sad.

I mean you already got me annoyed by touching the don't discuss ongoing game rules without directly violating the rules, but coming preeeeeeetttttttttty damn close.

~r

[Flay Gunnar]

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