Blitz 6: Normal! [Game Over]

[TheLhix]

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Not being worried about a 2-vote wagon doesn't mean you don't clarify reads on that wagon. Also the only difference is the titus read, and I meant that as the general consensus of the generally non-sus players, which would include yakko.

You're replying to it now, but why didn't you reply to it at the time?

At first my vote was in fact a impulse, I felt something was wrong with what had occurred earlier but wanted to bide my time to formulate a logical response until I gathered my emotion response together.

...This wasn't a question to you, actually.

I am aware. ^_^_^

[Aquanim]

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I don't work like that. People start as town. Scummy actions (which ipip has none) do that.

Farside backing off Laho pings like a motherfucker, doubly so because she's voting the counter.

I found these posts by itlepip reflective of scum motivaion because they're pointing suspicion at other players but not really pressuring for more information in any way:

Spoiler:

Saying that your play was what you thought was normal and therefore not suspicious I find very suspicious.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

You sound disgusted? Maybe I'm reading that wrong. Any particular reason you pointed it out but made zero attempts to figure out why I was sheeping? I like my vote more now.

i was still in RVS, that was just a comment supposed to be taken lightly. It wasn't meant to be personnel.

Also how would I be able this early in the game to give an explanation of your sheeping, most likely it was just a joking RVS sheep, but if my vote was serious than an RVS vote is bad. You could be scum trying a sheeping strategy early but there isn't much evidence for that. There also could be some scum thing I did early that you guys are reacting to, but I have absolutely no idea what it is.

Can you explain why you don't find that scummy?

Cuz it's not. You can observe a pattern without asking a question. That's what I do as town.

Questions can easily be used to shape a conversation.

Pattern observation gets responses.

I don't think any of those posts were ever likely to result in interesting responses.

[TheLhix]

Love me

[TheLhix]

Vote: Yakko

[Titus]

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I don't work like that. People start as town. Scummy actions (which ipip has none) do that.

Farside backing off Laho pings like a motherfucker, doubly so because she's voting the counter.

I found these posts by itlepip reflective of scum motivaion because they're pointing suspicion at other players but not really pressuring for more information in any way:

Spoiler:

Saying that your play was what you thought was normal and therefore not suspicious I find very suspicious.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

Dear god I feel like I want 2 votes now

You have 2 with yakko sheeping you...
Was that vote in or out of RVS, cause I have no idea.

You sound disgusted? Maybe I'm reading that wrong. Any particular reason you pointed it out but made zero attempts to figure out why I was sheeping? I like my vote more now.

i was still in RVS, that was just a comment supposed to be taken lightly. It wasn't meant to be personnel.

Also how would I be able this early in the game to give an explanation of your sheeping, most likely it was just a joking RVS sheep, but if my vote was serious than an RVS vote is bad. You could be scum trying a sheeping strategy early but there isn't much evidence for that. There also could be some scum thing I did early that you guys are reacting to, but I have absolutely no idea what it is.

Can you explain why you don't find that scummy?

Cuz it's not. You can observe a pattern without asking a question. That's what I do as town.

Questions can easily be used to shape a conversation.

Pattern observation gets responses.

I don't think any of those posts were ever likely to result in interesting responses.

That's probably why you don't play that way. What you're highlighting is play style NOT scummy.

[TheLhix]

I am fucking dying. I am literally fucking dying. Yakko I challenge you to a death match. Titus, back me up with dem fist. /Rant end

[Titus]

@Lhix,

I will back you after we lynch Laho scum. Maybe Farside too.

There'sno point in you sepuukuing while we have a wagon on scum. Come back.

[itlepip]

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Not being worried about a 2-vote wagon doesn't mean you don't clarify reads on that wagon. Also the only difference is the titus read, and I meant that as the general consensus of the generally non-sus players, which would include yakko.

You're replying to it now, but why didn't you reply to it at the time?

cause there was about 80 posts I didn't respond to, and as you can see I didn't think my answer would really contribute to anything.

[TheLhix]

Unvote

I'm just joking around tbh. Day was pretty stressful and decided to just let a little steam out. Anywho, I will think about it.

[Aquanim]

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That's probably why you don't play that way. What you're highlighting is play style NOT scummy.

Okay, let's take one of these posts in particular.

Hey all!
I was bored so you all get me today.

Vote: thelhix

Yakko why are you joining the RVS bw instead of votive thelhix?

I just brought out the refreshments. Do you have a read as to why I am shady?

Going from serious to silly in 1.0 seconds.

Let's just say that your play reads fake.
You asked about the vote from the start and say there are other ways you play but all I see is silliness which doesn't really capture reads from anyone

But, did I not give a logical explanation for it? As well, I was also told that plays such as this "sillyness" were common on this site. Essentially leading one to believe they are being uptight. So couldnt you say I am just adjusting to the room?

Saying that your play was what you thought was normal and therefore not suspicious I find very suspicious.

What kind of response or information do you think that itlepip was hoping to get from this post? itlepip did not pursue this point at all, either.

[itlepip]

Because making accusations about posts is how you get out of RVS. Obviously the game took a different turn and I never felt the need the readdress that awkward point.

[Aquanim]

Because making accusations about posts is how you get out of RVS. Obviously the game took a different turn and I never felt the need the readdress that awkward point.

Do you think TheLhix is suspicious now?

[farside22]

And add to that associated with no flip.
Lets go wagon

My Ocean and Persivul reads were unflipped associatives.

Hello lying scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

There was no scum read in persivul day 1 based on association.

[Aquanim]

Do not turn this game into another Blitz 1, you two.

[Titus]

And add to that associated with no flip.
Lets go wagon

My Ocean and Persivul reads were unflipped associatives.

Hello lying scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

There was no scum read in persivul day 1 based on association.

Yes there was. Persivul's push on me I called out. I said "You can be scum too" regarding his push on me.

You didn't reread that ISO.

My last reads were Ocean AND Persivul needed to die.

[Titus]

Do not turn this game into another Blitz 1, you two.

I had scum and did everything right. The best way to avoid repeating it is for people to actually lynch scum.

[farside22]

And add to that associated with no flip.
Lets go wagon

My Ocean and Persivul reads were unflipped associatives.

Hello lying scum
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

There was no scum read in persivul day 1 based on association.

Yes there was. Persivul's push on me I called out. I said "You can be scum too" regarding his push on me.

You didn't reread that ISO.

My last reads were Ocean AND Persivul needed to die.

That is not an associative in the least.

[Aquanim]

Whether an unflipped associative read has, in a single game, turned out to be right is not relevant to whether they are a good idea in general.

I am NOT talking about that game here and now, besides to say that I do not intend to let this game become a similar shitshow. If you want to justify your play there do it postgame.

[Aquanim]

That is directed at both of you. That game is over. Leave it and move on.

[farside22]

Do not turn this game into another Blitz 1, you two.

Listen this isn't the same at all.

Titus arguments are weak.
Look at her day 1 engagement vs this.
Asking questions there. Not asking them here.
Trying to figure motoves there.
Pushing weak reasoning here.
Not the same at all

[Titus]

Whether an unflipped associative read has, in a single game, turned out to be right is not relevant to whether they are a good idea in general.

I am NOT talking about that game here and now, besides to say that I do not intend to let this game become a similar shitshow. If you want to justify your play there do it postgame.

Seriously, I pegged scum and had an all town wagon on scum, what the fuck should I do differently?

I even tried working with people. Got an lol nope.

At some point, it just ain't my fault.

[TheLhix]

Aqua, what are your reads on everyone

[Titus]

What do I gotta do to get you to vote Laho Aquarius? Do the funky comadina?

*dances*

[farside22]

That is directed at both of you. That game is over. Leave it and move on.

She's the one doing it to justify a shotty case.
Oh look at how good I am. Ignore my crappy reason and follow because because of that game.
That's her.
Me I'm showing why she is scum.

[Aquanim]

Do not turn this game into another Blitz 1, you two.

Listen this isn't the same at all.

Titus arguments are weak.
Look at her day 1 engagement vs this.
Asking questions there. Not asking them here.
Trying to figure motoves there.
Pushing weak reasoning here.
Not the same at all

If you want to make a meta argument I suppose I'm listening. It is true that Titus' engagement with Blitz 1 early in the game was greater IIRC. Not a scumclaim but it's a valid point.

What I am not interested in is either of you,

whether your assessment is correct or not

, justifying your play there or bitching about that town. This isn't the place for that, it's not relevant to this game, and all it will lead to is ill feeling we don't need.