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[Aquanim]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

I do have a question on this. I dont think I am necessarily shit flinging around arguments, but besides the arguing or trying to make a case what would you suggest? On the Meta I came from it was very much based in empiricism and observation. While I have noticed the shift here in both tone and play style, I have noticed that challenging is equally detrimental. Would you say that is correct?

The ego-boosting and shit-flinging was specifically a comment about Teamliquid.

I almost think you've overreacted to the site meta; you went from serious questioning of my vote in the first post to throwing around unexplained votes on a whim. I do personally prefer votes to be explained, and if appropriate pushed.

[TheLhix]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

I do have a question on this. I dont think I am necessarily shit flinging around arguments, but besides the arguing or trying to make a case what would you suggest? On the Meta I came from it was very much based in empiricism and observation. While I have noticed the shift here in both tone and play style, I have noticed that challenging is equally detrimental. Would you say that is correct?

The ego-boosting and shit-flinging was specifically a comment about Teamliquid.

I almost think you've overreacted to the site meta; you went from serious questioning of my vote in the first post to throwing around unexplained votes on a whim. I do personally prefer votes to be explained, and if appropriate pushed.

Understood. I think I tried to give more explanation and clean that up later on, but that is subjective. Thanks for the tips (or whatever the correct term is here?)

[Titus]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

[farside22]

@Nos are you saying titus was accidentally right?

no, I just didn't see his reasoning behind his scum read. Not that I think it's wrong, I just didn't comprehend it.

@Titus

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

Still think it's not an ego or a good case.
Still say this I'm god's gift is a ruse no matter what loha really is.

I'm here to hammer but finishing up anyways

[Aquanim]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

I don't see why. My opinion is that you had done very little to advance the thread at that point. If you're aware that it's a problem, but have done next-to-nothing about it, that's pretty scummy.

[hi im Yakko]

I think he just likes to hear the sound of his own voice. That is why I have been ignoring him for the most part.

[Aquanim]

...
Still say this I'm god's gift is a ruse no matter what loha really is.
...

I don't buy Titus-LoHa as a bus, pretty sure.

[farside22]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

Man I sense day 2 in my future.

Aqua, do you have anything else to say.
I don't see anyone shifting away from LoHa.
You want my take on it.
I say both LoHa and Titus are scum. I stand by my titus read.
LoHa had a strange moment I saw that makes me think this and Titus self assurance without asking questions is a dead give away with her.

I'm still not sure on the 3rd scum read. Too much lurkers this game. I had higher hopes for Soren then I've gotten so far. Mala is pretty much as expected and is like this regardless of alignment. And well Pisskop, I feel like shaking him up on day 2 to see if he is town or scum because right now it is snooze city with him.

[pisskop]

have you ever played with scumkop?

[farside22]

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Still say this I'm god's gift is a ruse no matter what loha really is.
...

I don't buy Titus-LoHa as a bus, pretty sure.

There is self assured and pushing because you found something in the game that you question and dig at and go crazy about.
Then there is one post that is really just meh and push it and hold it and call anyone scum for for weak reason and use associations for and I call that player scum.
Hell I've done that.
It's scum 101.

[pisskop]

in fact, unless somebody here is an alt, I dont think any of them has.

Were you in that game were I was an sk?

[farside22]

have you ever played with scumkop?

Yes sir.
I just can't discuss it.

[Aquanim]

Aqua, do you have anything else to say.

Yeah. If nothing else I have a conversation to finish with Titus.

I don't see anyone shifting away from LoHa.

Probably not.

I say both LoHa and Titus are scum. I stand by my titus read.
LoHa had a strange moment I saw that makes me think this and Titus self assurance without asking questions is a dead give away with her.

Can you share this strange moment so I can have a think about it?
I don't have direct experience with Titus but I'm not at all sure the arrogance is alignment-indicative.

...Now that I think about it though, Titus was... what... fourth? on the LoHa wagon, and could have felt pretty screwed over when you jumped off (hence the aggression). Is Titus a busser?

I'm still not sure on the 3rd scum read. Too much lurkers this game. I had higher hopes for Soren then I've gotten so far. Mala is pretty much as expected and is like this regardless of alignment. And well Pisskop, I feel like shaking him up on day 2 to see if he is town or scum because right now it is snooze city with him.

Time enough to worry about that day 2, after we see a flip or two.

[farside22]

in fact, unless somebody here is an alt, I dont think any of them has.

Were you in that game were I was an sk?

Hydra and game is still ongoing.

[pisskop]

oh yea, duh

[Titus]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

I don't see why. My opinion is that you had done very little to advance the thread at that point. If you're aware that it's a problem, but have done next-to-nothing about it, that's pretty scummy.

You mean I kept my post count low til I caught scum is a problem?

[pisskop]

I wouldnt' trust scumkop to act the same in every game.

[TheLhix]

Unvote:

My scum read is still on LaHo, but as this topic is resurfacing and being discussed I don't want the power of a hammer interfering.

[Nosferatu]

have you ever played with scumkop?

I have.

[pisskop]

o.o

[hi im Yakko]

@lhix no one is gonna hammer without saying so.

[farside22]

Aqua this is per your question in post 537

Spoiler:

Loha votes me for reasons that aren't clear. The only thing I said was I needed a counter to itep to get things going. That indicates not much is alignment indicative.

Loha sheeps that thought process, but votes me. If he thinks my thought process is scummy, why would he follow it? If he doesn't, then why is he voting me?

All around, that's pretty bad.

This is bs. I'm not sheeping anything.

Just a reminder why Titus pushed this as a scum read in the first place.
I wanted it remembered because it really was very weak and quibbling over a difference in wording that no one would notice.

[3] LoHa ~ farside22, Soren, TheLhix

If scum is on me it's either Titus or TheLhix or both.

He talks about 2 players on his wagon but doesn't explain why those 2 are scum.

Meanwhile I'll take home the fact that aquaman doesn't know why Titus' vote is on me either and that I'm in his lynch pool because my play is thin. Does my postcount or the substance bother you? I've made two alignment indicative arguments for titusscum, the produce of my thin play. You call me scummy because my play is thin, I'd expect a townie with such a fat play as yours to come up with better arguments to base a lynch on, or at least sheep the ones that make sense.

Are you talkative scum?

This is the biggest thing that caught my attention.
He calls titus scum still, there are even votes on titus but instead of pushing any point against her we have random vote time next.

VOTE: pisskop

Fun stops now, scum.

This guy hasn't done anything either.

Let's see if he'll omgus like the other or what.

[Aquanim]

@LoHa

: From one Teamliquid expatriate to another... this forum operates much less on ego-boosting and shit-flinging arguments. (Mostly.) Getting a feel for the different meta here is very important. (Same goes for Lhix on that score, actually.)

And yes Titus, your read is being "discredited" because, quite simply, it is worth no credit. Right or wrong, it was terrible.

To repeat myself again: agreeing with you that not much has happened in the thread is NOT a reason he should townread you. Scum frequently make accurate statements.

He shouldn't vote someone whom the only thing he says is he agrees with me. That's the issue. It's a scumclaim. You're placing a strawman.

I don't see why. My opinion is that you had done very little to advance the thread at that point. If you're aware that it's a problem, but have done next-to-nothing about it, that's pretty scummy.

You mean I kept my post count low til I caught scum is a problem?

If everybody did that the game would go nowhere. You had an issue with the game not having anything alignment-indicative, and your solution is to do something which continue to make the game not go anywhere?

Yes, I have a problem with that.

[farside22]

I wouldnt' trust scumkop to act the same in every game.

I don't trust you ever.
Still love you though.

[Aquanim]

Aqua this is per your question in post 537

Spoiler:

Loha votes me for reasons that aren't clear. The only thing I said was I needed a counter to itep to get things going. That indicates not much is alignment indicative.

Loha sheeps that thought process, but votes me. If he thinks my thought process is scummy, why would he follow it? If he doesn't, then why is he voting me?

All around, that's pretty bad.

This is bs. I'm not sheeping anything.

Just a reminder why Titus pushed this as a scum read in the first place.
I wanted it remembered because it really was very weak and quibbling over a difference in wording that no one would notice.

[3] LoHa ~ farside22, Soren, TheLhix

If scum is on me it's either Titus or TheLhix or both.

He talks about 2 players on his wagon but doesn't explain why those 2 are scum.

Meanwhile I'll take home the fact that aquaman doesn't know why Titus' vote is on me either and that I'm in his lynch pool because my play is thin. Does my postcount or the substance bother you? I've made two alignment indicative arguments for titusscum, the produce of my thin play. You call me scummy because my play is thin, I'd expect a townie with such a fat play as yours to come up with better arguments to base a lynch on, or at least sheep the ones that make sense.

Are you talkative scum?

This is the biggest thing that caught my attention.
He calls titus scum still, there are even votes on titus but instead of pushing any point against her we have random vote time next.

VOTE: pisskop

Fun stops now, scum.

This guy hasn't done anything either.

Let's see if he'll omgus like the other or what.

kk I'll think about it.