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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:36 am

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It depends on the scum win condition, Firebringer. If it's just scum wins when they make up 50% of the playerlist still alive, then it's still a scum win.

I reached the same conclusion you did and assumed that it would be bastard modding to allow a voteless scum to reach the endgame alone, so I auto-assumed town.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:39 am

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Nope, town won.

Mod is a troll.


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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:41 am

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if the game had gotten down to three people with titus not being able to vote what would even happen..?
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:42 am

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Neither town would vote questioning what the fuck was going on.
Since neither town would vote, they realized that both had to be town.
One would insta vote Titus, GG.

But it doesn't matter, we won anyways.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:45 am

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like. with only two votes in play, what would be the number needed to lynch...?
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:46 am

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50%+1 is the rule
Therefore both votes
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:48 am

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MarioManiac4 wrote:50%+1 is the rule
Therefore both votes

And because titus vote was taken out of play completely she would be in 1 vote to lynch tomorrow.
She can't vote. She is lynched.

No matter how you play it, scum auto lost.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:49 am

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I mean there were five posters;
Me (treestump, basically dead)
Titus (voteless scum)
Firebringer (lynched town)
Spiffeh+CB (alive town)

I don't believe town could have won this one if FB got lynched. Titus kills CB, endgames Spiffeh

Pedit: 50% of 1 isn't 0 any way you look at it so it would be an auto nolynch
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:50 am

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This happened in a different micro game.

Scum killed the non double voter.
Lost in endgame with a double voter in 2 players left. Since the double voter had two votes, he auto won it for town.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:50 am

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MarioManiac4 wrote:Pedit: 50% of 1 isn't 0 any way you look at it so it would be an auto nolynch

Its 50%+1 you said it in your previous post. Did you just forget that?
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:51 am

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Oh

Yay
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:53 am

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Yes but that player had 2 votes and the scum had 1 vote so there were 3 to lynch and 2 votes were needed to lynch, because lol50%+1
1 would take more than 1 to lynch I believe?
Actually maybe my logic is all wrong idek

Pedit; Due to my bad logics I took that as 0.5+1 which would be rounded up to 2 and lynching would be impossible
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:54 am

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The plus 1 is for the rounding.
You don't round.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:55 am

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like 13/2 is 6.5 instead of saying 6.5 you say 13/2+1 equals 7 to lynch.
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:55 am

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Mario, it's 50% rounded up to the next whole number.

7 alive, 4 to lynch.
9 alive, 5 to lynch.
13 alive, 7 to lynch.

etc.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:00 am

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why is this even a dicussion?
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:01 am

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like i jsut relooked at towns wincon and town did not eliminate all threats so if we were making an argument at best its a draw
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:03 am

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ika wrote:why is this even a dicussion?

Scum auto lost.
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:05 am

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so for anyone wondering this is scums wincon:

You win when your faction composes 50% of the living players at day start, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:06 am

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so going into night its 3 ppl, titus kills making it 2. the scum faction now composes 50% of the living players
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:06 am

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ika wrote:so for anyone wondering this is scums wincon:

You win when your faction composes 50% of the living players at day start, or nothing can prevent this from happening.

This was never revealed, nor does it matter because it says "nothing can prevent". Once day starts, she is auto lynched. And town wins.

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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:07 am

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Ankamius wrote:It depends on the scum win condition, Firebringer. If it's just scum wins when they make up 50% of the playerlist still alive, then it's still a scum win.

I reached the same conclusion you did and assumed that it would be bastard modding to allow a voteless scum to reach the endgame alone, so I auto-assumed town.
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 am

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Firebringer wrote:Nope, town won.

Mod is a troll.


GG town, we did it.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:08 am

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Win Condition > Everything else.

If the conditions were met, then they win the game. Period. Everything else is irrelevant.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:09 am

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FTR I'm willing to bet 100% that this exact situation is why that specific win condition was chosen.
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