You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Garmr]

See what I mean? Garbage. That whole post. Just like the last one. You're free to argue what you want. The whole thing goes in the trash can.
Now you have two options:
1. Whine about how I'm not responding anymore
Or go back and actually read the thread, make a quality thought out post, READ this time instead of looking for what you want to because you miss things when you do it the latter way, and stop being an idiot.

I have to say though, and this is a big reason I'm scum reading you: this is only crappy play if you're town. If you're scum this is actually good play because you're likely to get ignored as VI and people will think you're kind of town if I flip for the opposite reason people think scum are town when they white knight- scum would know my alignment so why would garmer press so hard if eagle flipped town?

Lol really that's the best reasoning you can come up with to scum read me I'm pushing you to hard looooool. I'm not going to get ignored because my points are soilid you even admitted earlier some of my points were solid yet tried to dance around them it took ages to get you to reply and even then your response was pathetic your such obvious scum.

[Elyse]

I'm surprised TSO isn't a presence

Why? That one is rarely having a presence D1.

I thought I remember him being a presence D1 of the last game.

@Garmr
Your points are good. I would join you on EE but it doesn't seem to have enough support today because yeah people think he's town and it's annoying. Literally interactions with him go like this:

You: *brings up valid point*
EE: *doesn't address it*
You: *restates point in a different way or asks him to address it directly*
EE: "READ THE THREAD YOU'RE A VI MY THEORYYYYYY!"

But there's a warm spot for you on the Kling wagon which also has a very good chance of flipping scum if you want it.

[grapes]

None. That was for the whole Eagle/Passionate/Spider "dance".

ok. kinda an odd way to word that

im still curious why your strongest townread is scum, though, if you don't mind

[grapes]

What do you think it means?

it means she's more likely town
mostly because 116 is a town post in the first place

[grapes]

eagle, your townread on me is out of place, considering ive done next to nothing
and with the omission of a read on other slots, like, oh let's say spifflop? with much more readable content im left very intrigued on your thoughts there

also, short version is spifflops reads are fake
you'll get the long version after i see some responses

[jasonT1981]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip

grapes

(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Shiro

(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon

Aneninen

(2): T S O, Alchemist21

Passionate Storm

(1): Klingoncelt

Aunt Jemina

(1): PeregrineV

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): Garmr

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

Elyse

(1): Extrapolated Eagle

Spifflop

(1): grapes

Not Voting

(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

[Spifflop]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63171: Town read Klingon all of Day 1 as she was getting pressured. She was nightkilled N1 and flipped town.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=63284: Klingon subs into a scum slot and I scum read her pretty immediately. I go apathetic and drop it but she turns out to be scum.

So Klingon please explain to me how you can possibly say that I'm notorious for misreading you.

~Spiffy

Klingon please answer this.

Also grapes it should be very clear we're town by now so I urge you not to waste your time.
Your best move at this point is probs to bus Klingon tbh

~Spiffy

[grapes]

I asked grapes why they neglected to provide a firm stance on what happened with kling and chose to ask an open ended question. They did not respond. I think that they are trying to avoid sticking their neck out, if anything.

I can join the fruit train, itlepip is going nowhere.
VOTE: grapes

kinda hard to respond when i haven't been here

and when you put your question in a spoiler lols

[grapes]

151 looks like a scum wall

I

see

it, however, I am not convinced. As the wall continues, I saw further thought which looked potentially sweet.

yea elyse is pretty much town, i think she just tripped on the door frame on the way in

While horrible, I do not see scum making a vote this bad. At least not nakedly. So grappy is slightly sweet, too.

[grapes]

I'm bugged by Grapes' thing. Is he buddying me? Maybe, but I think he's setting up mislynches, as in, "Oh look, those guys all called poor Klingon Scum but she flipped Town -

they

must be Scum!!"

amazing how many different spins you can put on one post, hehe

but i think this is probably a town response here, no reason for klingon to alienate people townreading her as scum when she's already widely scumread

[Alchemist21]

I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game. That or some kind of neighborizer/masonizer are the only reasons I can think he'd be asking about Clotilde. That alone makes him unlikely to be group scum at least. I still think he's snarkier here than he usually is; even the game he linked doesn't really have snark.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Varsoon

I don't like how he said him posting would be a bad idea. Varsoon, I want some of your thoughts on the game.

[Errantparabola]

Catchup on pages 16-22 coming in a few hours.
Damn, that's a lot of pages

[Shiro]

I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game. That or some kind of neighborizer/masonizer are the only reasons I can think he'd be asking about Clotilde. That alone makes him unlikely to be group scum at least. I still think he's snarkier here than he usually is; even the game he linked doesn't really have snark.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Varsoon

I don't like how he said him posting would be a bad idea. Varsoon, I want some of your thoughts on the game.

Ok wtf?

Even if that is true. Why the hell would you say that ?

[Randomnamechange]

If that is true anen is probably either cult leader or mason leader. possibly but unlikely an auditor. Probably not worth voting him yet.

[Alchemist21]

I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game. That or some kind of neighborizer/masonizer are the only reasons I can think he'd be asking about Clotilde. That alone makes him unlikely to be group scum at least. I still think he's snarkier here than he usually is; even the game he linked doesn't really have snark.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Varsoon

I don't like how he said him posting would be a bad idea. Varsoon, I want some of your thoughts on the game.

Ok wtf?

Even if that is true. Why the hell would you say that ?

Why wouldn't I? If he can change alignments then he's probably not an immediate threat to the Town and not worth pursuing right now.

[grapes]

i don't get it

i googled clotilde and it's either a saint or slave ship

[Varsoon]

I think Anen has the alignment-changing ability the mod said was possible for this game.

No. I don't believe it.
You're gravely mistaken.

Varsoon, I want some of your thoughts on the game.

Why don't you take a look around? There's nothing I can do about it right now.
Soon I'll be dead, and you with me.

[Spifflop]

also, short version is spifflops reads are fake
you'll get the long version after i see some responses

extremely anticipated for this.

[Garmr]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip

grapes

(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Shiro

(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon

Aneninen

(2): T S O, Alchemist21

Passionate Storm

(1): Klingoncelt

Aunt Jemina

(1): PeregrineV

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): Garmr

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

Elyse

(1): Extrapolated Eagle

Spifflop

(1): grapes

Not Voting

(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

what is wrong with everyone in this game more need to vote ee.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE: PeregrineV.
This is not a serious vote.

I propose we--aw, who am I kidding.

Yes!

I feel the love!!

[Spifflop]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip

grapes

(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Shiro

(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon

Aneninen

(2): T S O, Alchemist21

Passionate Storm

(1): Klingoncelt

Aunt Jemina

(1): PeregrineV

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): Garmr

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

Elyse

(1): Extrapolated Eagle

Spifflop

(1): grapes

Not Voting

(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

what is wrong with everyone in this game more need to vote ee.

anyone voting spider gwen: wtf are you doing??????

[Dapper Stranger]

I'm surprised TSO isn't a presence

Why? That one is rarely having a presence D1.

I thought I remember him being a presence D1 of the last game.


But there's a warm spot for you on the Kling wagon which also has a very good chance of flipping scum if you want it.

Nah. That one is turning on his jets around D3 or a man be gobbling him up early that game.

Not feeling the Klingon wagon.

[Spifflop]

how come, dapper?

what about the fruit train?

why do you still have your vote on spider gwen?

please answer these swiftly

[Dapper Stranger]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(5): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Elyse, Passionate Storm, itlepip

grapes

(4): Spider Gwen, Spifflop, Errantparabola, Shiro

Spider Gwen

(3): inte, randomidget, Dapper Stranger

Shiro

(2): My Other Head Is Scum, Varsoon

Aneninen

(2): T S O, Alchemist21

Passionate Storm

(1): Klingoncelt

Aunt Jemina

(1): PeregrineV

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): Garmr

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

Elyse

(1): Extrapolated Eagle

Spifflop

(1): grapes

Not Voting

(1): TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

what is wrong with everyone in this game more need to vote ee.

A man is learning that when he is alone in a large group, most often it's because his judgement is flawed.

[Spider Gwen]

@Elyse: And exactly how do you think scum push a slip accusation?

What do you mean? How would scum push a slip against their own team member?

I'm confused and not even sure what we're talking about any more. I just remember that it wasn't important and was a follow up question. Can't remember the point.

---

Auntie J is town. Cool.

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Stranger's posts have a "look everyone! I'm busy!" quality to them. I also don't think the Jaquen head would approach a scum read in that manner.

A man isn't busy but is finding Battlefront of much and more interest than this. That is having nothing to do with scum reading this one. Gwen is scum and anyone touching a wagon that one is helping to champion is pushing a mislynch.

Except that is still not how I'd expect Jaquen to push a scum read as town. No effort given. No points awarded.

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I'm actually townreading Innocent. That series of events concerning mixing up Eagle and Errant is too silly not to be true.

---

You've already proven you can think ahead. What's to say that you didn't put your neck on the line just so that you can use this defense later?
I personally don't believe it, just want to hear your response.

Far too risky. I'm a horrible actor. I did try to gambit once as scum and I don't think I've ever been lynched faster, with the exception of my first couple mafia games - I was annoying as crap (still kinda am, I guess) and stupid and thought that everyone that voted me must be scum.
When I gambit as I have a hard time figuring out how to read people without cutting my options down too much. I haven't played scum much before.

If you're a terrible gambiter, why would you deliberately try a gambit to draw votes to me and suppose it would succeed?

I feel even worse for calling that a possible slip. This is a horrible post.

Eagle I am so sorry...