You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Dapper Stranger]

Ok, a man is checking and while Spiffeh isn't kart out ignoring a man's case he is ignoring it fir around 14 hours before actually responding to it and is posting plenty in the interim. This is looking like he is waiting for help before responding. If Spifflop is flipping scum then whoever wasn't on during that time frame before his response and shows up at about the same time he us actually getting around to responding is needing scrutiny.

[Dapper Stranger]

*flat out

[itlepip]

Ok, a man is checking and while Spiffeh isn't kart out ignoring a man's case he is ignoring it fir around 14 hours before actually responding to it and is posting plenty in the interim. This is looking like he is waiting for help before responding. If Spifflop is flipping scum then whoever wasn't on during that time frame before his response and shows up at about the same time he us actually getting around to responding is needing scrutiny.

You are really pushing it here. The way that I and most people answer to the many posts is in order of posting. Also good luck arguing that you can tell that it is mafia chat over hydra chat.

[Dapper Stranger]

That one is talking about a mans case and how he is going to respond to it instead of just responding to it for 14 hours. Even if he is working at first that's at best 6 hours given when it was posted. The other 8 he just keeps putting off his response and saying he's going to. A man is pushing nothing and since you obviously aren't taking his word for it go look for yourself

[Dapper Stranger]

Ok, a man is checking and while Spiffeh isn't kart out ignoring a man's case he is ignoring it fir around 14 hours before actually responding to it and is posting plenty in the interim. This is looking like he is waiting for help before responding. If Spifflop is flipping scum then whoever wasn't on during that time frame before his response and shows up at about the same time he us actually getting around to responding is needing scrutiny.

You are really pushing it here. The way that I and most people answer to the many posts is in order of posting. Also good luck arguing that you can tell that it is mafia chat over hydra chat.

That last part is easy. Hiplop isn't on site before late last night because that one is having a death he is attending. Which is faaaarrrrr more important than mafia and understandably so.

[Passionate Storm]

So I had to study, but now I am back. Eagle, what are your reads?

[Shiro]

You guys should all come back to voting grapes. He is the best wagon that had surfaced so far.

@Dapper if it wasn't for how horrible all the other votes on spiff are I would be able to consider your reasons but take a look at the wagon and tell me how that is a town motivated wagon.

[Shiro]

Unless anyone is up for an alchemist wagon. That may actually be even better

[Dapper Stranger]

Ya know, this was 12 pages less when I went to bed last night.

Kinda makes me think the vote is the right one because of all this shit flying in the thread to try and distract us otherwise.

-Fresh

[Extrapolated Eagle]

So I had to study, but now I am back. Eagle, what are your reads?

I apologize. I got some done last night but I got tired and had to stop about an eighth of the way through. I'm still rereading but I will be back in a bit, don't worry.

[Spifflop]

Ok, a man is checking and while Spiffeh isn't kart out ignoring a man's case he is ignoring it fir around 14 hours before actually responding to it and is posting plenty in the interim. This is looking like he is waiting for help before responding. If Spifflop is flipping scum then whoever wasn't on during that time frame before his response and shows up at about the same time he us actually getting around to responding is needing scrutiny.

Ya know, this was 12 pages less when I went to bed last night.

Kinda makes me think the vote is the right one because of all this shit flying in the thread to try and distract us otherwise.

-Fresh

Anyone sharing a wagon with this after these two posts should be ashamed of themselves.

~Spiffy

[Spifflop]

last post tonight

Also,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: spifflop
Doesn't look like spidey is happening today.

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SHE POSTED THE WRONG STUFF, JAQEN. You're tunneling. Spiffeh outlined quite cleary why kling was scum. Her completely fabricated reads, the damning meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

I don't give a shit about early game, she got progressively more scummy. It took a LOT to pry me from my grapes read. It was not tunneling, it was logic and damning evidence, jaqen.

so yes, random is fucking on my wagon. Showed no resistance at all, like right away.

Does that change anything?


(real last post, pce)

[Spifflop]

Unless anyone is up for an alchemist wagon. That may actually be even better

Shiro why don't you want to vote for Klingon?

~Spiffy

[Spifflop]

Anyway I'm done arguing with Jaqen. It should be abundantly clear that his slot is pulling out all the stops to get us lynched and is refusing to reconsider, so I will probably just ignore them until Klingon flips scum and they are forced to drop this atrocious case.

~Spiffy

[Shiro]

Unless anyone is up for an alchemist wagon. That may actually be even better

Shiro why don't you want to vote for Klingon?

~Spiffy

I think she is town. I am getting the same feeling reading her as I was in twilight.

I could be wrong but eeeeeh I.don't want to go against my feelings.

[T S O]

So much noise, so little signal. How are you posting this quickly?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Nope. Nope. Nope. Pbpa isn't possible until night and even then I don't know that that will be enough time. Alright Ill probably have my reads for you some time tonight, Titus, but they won't be as deep as I want them to be. :'(

[jasonT1981]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(8): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon

Spifflop

(5): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle, randomidget, PeregrineV

Passionate Storm

(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21

Extrapolated Eagle

(1): T S O

Shiro

(1): My Other Head Is Scum

grapes

(1): Shiro

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

itlepip

(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting

(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola

V/LA (1): I am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

[Passionate Storm]

Unless anyone is up for an alchemist wagon. That may actually be even better

Shiro why don't you want to vote for Klingon?

~Spiffy

I think she is town. I am getting the same feeling reading her as I was in twilight.

I could be wrong but eeeeeh I.don't want to go against my feelings.

Not even for cookies and a grapes wagon tomorrow?

~Titus

[Passionate Storm]

Nope. Nope. Nope. Pbpa isn't possible until night and even then I don't know that that will be enough time. Alright Ill probably have my reads for you some time tonight, Titus, but they won't be as deep as I want them to be. :'(

That was actually Jeanne talking. While having her sign is good, your powers of observation should have told you that.

1) Jeanne's post implied an absence from the thread. I was not absent.
2) Jeanne's post implied studying. I was drunk. Drunk people generally are not off to study.
3) The post implied a lack of knowledge with your reads, which I do not have.

Reading between the lines is a very valuable skill. I think it might be part of the reason you are not voting Klingon.

Now to the substance of our discussion last night.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Nope. Nope. Nope. Pbpa isn't possible until night and even then I don't know that that will be enough time. Alright Ill probably have my reads for you some time tonight, Titus, but they won't be as deep as I want them to be. :'(

That was actually Jeanne talking. While having her sign is good, your powers of observation should have told you that.

1) Jeanne's post implied an absence from the thread. I was not absent.
2) Jeanne's post implied studying. I was drunk. Drunk people generally are not off to study.
3) The post implied a lack of knowledge with your reads, which I do not have.

Reading between the lines is a very valuable skill. I think it might be part of the reason you are not voting Klingon.

Now to the substance of our discussion last night.

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to the post itself as much as I was to responding. I skimmed there. And yes I thought that was weird that you were studying but maybe you study as a drinking game or its a euphemism or something.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Jeanne do you have gut reads/thoughts on the thread?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Jeanne do you have gut reads/thoughts on the thread?

Talk to me for now your partner is interested in making a decision. I'm still gathering information. Help me gather. Talk to me.

[Passionate Storm]

1255 -

First, for teaching your little brother chess metaphor. You may not beat him, but you're probably familiar with the gambits and openings he likes to start with as both white and black correct? You may not have figured out to beat him, but you know what he does in certain circumstances.

Second, Klingon is incapable of lurking away pressure as either alignment. As scum, you get active lurking shit. As town, she gets pissed off her reads are not taken seriously while acknowledging D1 is not her best play. Here's she's just bitching about being wagoned and tried to active lurk.

Third, your multiball story shows that you think silence is the best approach. It isn't. However, a noob resisting an idea usually means the idea is bad for his faction. I am one of the few notorious people who will tell you, regardless of alignment, what the ideal town moves are at the start. Towards the end, I highjack the process for scum. See The last mini theme hosted by Flay Gunar. Someone like PV would lurk off a wagon.

The truth is people play based on their expectations of the setup. Much like chess. I have spent quite awhile teaching Klingon how the pieces move. You do that in this game, you get in their head.

Compare the rage in Sudoken and Pun Mafia versus Twlight Zone (reference townie Xiao Xiao Buns). Look at the scum PTs.

Now onto the world as you see it.

1273 is wrong. Klingon is the first real wagon. A few stray voters in a large doesn't count as a wagon because you want it to.

[Passionate Storm]

Nope. Nope. Nope. Pbpa isn't possible until night and even then I don't know that that will be enough time. Alright Ill probably have my reads for you some time tonight, Titus, but they won't be as deep as I want them to be. :'(

That was actually Jeanne talking. While having her sign is good, your powers of observation should have told you that.

1) Jeanne's post implied an absence from the thread. I was not absent.
2) Jeanne's post implied studying. I was drunk. Drunk people generally are not off to study.
3) The post implied a lack of knowledge with your reads, which I do not have.

Reading between the lines is a very valuable skill. I think it might be part of the reason you are not voting Klingon.

Now to the substance of our discussion last night.

Sorry, I wasn't paying attention to the post itself as much as I was to responding. I skimmed there. And yes I thought that was weird that you were studying but maybe you study as a drinking game or its a euphemism or something.

That's an issue and poor town play or scum play. The devil is in the details. If you miss them because you're responding, then you aren't doing your team favors. My old teacher told me an adage (which I still break too much and will butcher.) God gave you two ears and one mouth for a reason. Listen twice as much as you speak.