You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Klingoncelt]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Yeah, arguing with the Scums is getting to be a pain in the ass. I think I'll spend my Sunday & maybe Monday sorting through the Null pile.

Can't Read:

Alchemist21
Aneninen
Garmr

Town:

Errantparabola
Extrapolated Eagle
Shiro
Spider Gwen
Varsoon

Lean Town:

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra)
I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)
TSO

Null:

Grapes
Randomidget
Spifflop(Spiffeh & Hiplop hydra)
TheWayItEnds

Lean Scum:

Aunt Jemina

Scum:

Elyse
Inte
Itlepip
Passionate Storm(Jeanne11 & Titus hydra)
PeregrineV

[Dapper Stranger]

Oh and your wagon analysis is off. See Legends of the Hidden Temple.

I expect a townie to have voted for Spiffeh at some point, thus convincing scum the wagon has a chance.

If a scum is wagoned early, scum have two options. Bus or find a counter. I think we both can agree bus is not likely an option. So Klingon is thrown out as a counter suggestion.

Umm...bullshit?

This one is now taking advantage of a player's inexperience to manipulate him to her way of thinking. Scum, particularly Titus and TSO when they are scum, will ardently defend their scum mates early in a game because they are able to make it wifom when someone is calling them out for said defense because there will be plenty townies on early mislynched who are thinking the lynched was scum at the time. Titus is probably scum here. A man was trying to not have to sort this one prior to D2 because of that one's D1 track record but a man isn't sitting idly by while she is poisoning the minds of all she can.

[Dapper Stranger]

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

A man is wondering why a lady is deflecting from a wagon that many and more believe could be scum?

There's no way Jaquen misunderstood what Elyse was saying.

Elyse is saying to get off you and onto another major wagon. Which is exactly what a man is questioning her for.

We've been over this.

@TSO i'm voting Gwen bc she is scummy and ignoring my questions.

What are your thoughts on the current major wagons?

This is a direction in which she is proposing rm goes.

You're hiding behind your spider Gwen vote.

This is a taunt admoshing a vote.

This is how a man is reading this.

I know what I meant, not you. Spider Gwen clearly understood me. You're wrong.

And if Gwen is saying "there's no way Klingon meant that" instead of stating 'there was no way a man is misinterpreting that' then a man's statement us t existing. A man is replying to that jerk off's constant trying to explain my personal thoughts as if she were me. She's not. And that constant barrage from her twisting my words so she can paint me the way she likes is getting really.fucking.old.

[Elyse]

Kling didn't say any of that so I'm not sure what you're talking about or why Kling quoted that earlier.

[Garmr]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Cough coaching Cough sorry had something in my throat.

[Dapper Stranger]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Yeah, arguing with the Scums is getting to be a pain in the ass. I think I'll spend my Sunday & maybe Monday sorting through the Null pile.

Can't Read:

Alchemist21
Aneninen
Garmr

Town:

Errantparabola
Extrapolated Eagle
Shiro
Spider Gwen
Varsoon

Lean Town:

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra)
I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)
TSO

Null:

Grapes
Randomidget
Spifflop(Spiffeh & Hiplop hydra)
TheWayItEnds

Lean Scum:

Aunt Jemina

Scum:

Elyse
Inte
Itlepip
Passionate Storm(Jeanne11 & Titus hydra)
PeregrineV

PV is probably a PR and I'm not feeling Elyse is scum either. Inte, maybe but a man is having him null. Spitflop, Titus, and TSO are rounding out a man's bottom 5. Though, TSO's shitty early town game often makes a man misread him. Maybe one of these days he will recognize hiw shitty his early game is and work with those whose early game isn't sucking so many ballz. Obviously a man is at the top of his town list.

Other than that, this one and a man are practically on the same page.

[Dapper Stranger]

Kling didn't say any of that so I'm not sure what you're talking about or why Kling quoted that earlier.

You then. That one's quote tags failed and it is looking like she is saying that. A man isn't remembering off the top of his head who is making the statement, the sticking point is Gwen's reply about how a man is interpreting what you are saying. So, same point just directed at Elyse. And how is this one not sure what a man is talking about?

[Elyse]

Is the "she" that is twisting your words Spider Gwen or me?

[Dapper Stranger]

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepip

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

HOW DO PEOPLE THINK THIS IS TOWN.
SHE GIVES ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THIS VOTE HOLY SHIT.

~Spiffy

Yes I did:

The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead,

Town is expected to work for you

Help a man lynch this then. It is seeming more and more we are having a very loud, whingy scum team to battle this time which is making this game annoying as all fuck. A man is even considering for the first time ever replacing out. Listening to mother fuckers cry and whine about being scum read as scum until out of shear I'll unvote you just so you shut the fuck up isn't enjoyable.

[Dapper Stranger]

Is the "she" that is twisting your words Spider Gwen or me?

Spider Gwen. Over and fucking over.

[Dapper Stranger]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

3/5

[Dapper Stranger]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

This is over the line, even for scum. Don't care compare players to racist assholes.

Not over the line. A man isn't saying those weren't racist or at least ill informed as to the tenants of Islam, but she is comparing the ignorance in one being equal to the ignorance in the other, or at least so a man is thinking.

[Dapper Stranger]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

This is over the line, even for scum. Don't care compare players to racist assholes.

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

This is over the line, even for scum. Don't care compare players to racist assholes.

Then quit acting like them. Repeating a lie over and over does not make it true. And you are lying about my Day1 play.

A man is corrected

[Dapper Stranger]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Cough coaching Cough sorry had something in my throat.

Yes. The inexperienced coaching the seasoned. Yep, that's how that us working. Besides Garmr, scum is having Daychat in the previous games and a man is surprised if the same isn't true here.

[Dapper Stranger]

Love the multi quote error a man is getting. Only the bottom quotes in those last two are pertains to a man's response

[Garmr]

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Cough coaching Cough sorry had something in my throat.

Yes. The inexperienced coaching the seasoned. Yep, that's how that us working. Besides Garmr, scum is having Daychat in the previous games and a man is surprised if the same isn't true here.

I wouldn't exactly call klingon seasoned as scum and if eagle is scum this game his already shown skills at being scum that are better than klings in the past.

I don't know through about day chat I didn't think of that and Through I have seen scum drop fake coaches to put distance when people knew there was day chat. What was the point of a town eagle telling kling how to get out here situation through?

[Aneninen]

I'll catch up later today.
If there's anything I should answer or examine fast, please tell!

[TheWayItEnds]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but no one expects two and two isn't too risky. Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

Titus maybe
spiff prob not
tsos pretty town
having a read on inte is bold

i appreciate that you think that of the three people ive interacted with im scum with 2 of them.
the level of incompetence that assumes on my part is pretty great.

[Garmr]

Is it a confidence issue? There are certain players I won't mention playing this current game who she couldn't possibly be worse than.

She is more of why bother, we'll ignore her variant.

In all likelihood, that will probably happen. But I was ignored when I started too. Mafia has a definite learning curve and very few people get to evade its necessities.

I just realised that I have been outrightly ignoring Garmr for a while now. This really wasn't my intention, my dear, do forgive me.

You even ignored me when I asked what you thought of me, where is the love tso where is the love.

Such a travesty will never occur again as long as I draw breath. Talk to me, Garmr. Where are you at this game?

Lets see in short

I was pushing eagle hard earlier.
Then I noticed kling was pressured over easy to dispell bad reasoning for one post and I think a town kling would easily be able to handle that she is pretty bad as scum.
Then I saw the spiffy wagon pop up and tbh I don't like the reasoning on it +the fact eagle jumped on.
I realized that my eagle case isn't going to go through today but I can lynch my second scum read in klingy.
Also I have more town reads than scum reads but I guess the town make up the majority of the game so yeh.

So that my mind processed in the minimum amount of words possible.

This mirrors what I've been doing as well. Excellent stuff. (Though you do tend to be scum a disproportionately high amount of the time, so...)

Do you have any unusual reads, aside from the ones you've mentioned?

Not really unusual read per say but a event with Spidergwen

Well it start with 292where she talks about a potential scum slip and then talks to people about the potential slip in multiple post then goes on to say

I feel even worse for calling that a possible slip. This is a horrible post.

It's like she believes her post is the reason people (titus in this case) scum read eagle when it's not. I'm trying to make out the reasoning why she feels guilty over it. Information was gained from raising it on how people reacted. (I think most people if not everyone disregarded it as a slip because even I wouldn't put that in my case on ee and I'm the number 1 pusher) I want to know motivations. Because all her other post are fine even if i disagree with some things just this is the only thing that stands out as odd.

[Shiro]

PV is probably a PR

Why? Why would you say that if you believe it?

Btw I played once with pv and he was active as active can be. He was engaged by Thor though so there is that.


@TSO

I will try to make alchemist case

He has been jumping from vote ti vote ti places that it will never matter

He asked Anen for a game link but never did anything with it or presented any findings

He said he was scumreading him, Gave some poor reasons then never pursued anything

He called out Anen as alignment changing role by saying he is masoniser(which would be so only if he was scum or maybe not even then I dunno) or cult which is something you don't really call out someone on being as town. Just iso him for that post it is for me the worst post in the game

Only engaged people that wouldn't really engage back like rnm.

And explained it all by hiding behind the I am not good at larges (Which might be true tbh but eh)

[Randomnamechange]

1436
I would swap tso and inte/twie for spider Gwen and passionate storm but apart from that I agree.

[Shiro]

1436
I would swap tso and inte/twie for spider Gwen and passionate storm but apart from that I agree.

So Titus manages to be on the scum team twice XD

[Randomnamechange]

1436
I would swap tso and inte/twie for spider Gwen and passionate storm but apart from that I agree.

So Titus manages to be on the scum team twice XD

Meant elyse
Also you are null for me, you are possibly part but not particularly sold on it.

[Shiro]

I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)

Why are those two town leans?

I only once saw Vedith hard lurk and he was scum in greater idea. You were there kling.
Fire is also consistently far more active although that isn't alignment inducing for him

And IaI hasn't even said anything?

[T S O]

Jaqen, remind me when your early game has ever been better than mine? Really? Because the last time we played together in Inorganic Chemistry you were so hilariously bad that you attempted to tell everyone that everyone you protected you actually thought was scum, and vice versa.

Please stop talking rubbish unless you've got something to back it up.