You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[T S O]

How about this: Titus, spifflop, shiro, Tso and then maybe inte/twie for a scum team? I think the chemistry there works. Not much solid content, two jump on Klingon with hiplop being the "head of reason" appealing to town while actions say otherwise
Three scum on the wagon all at once is too bold but

no one expects two and two isn't too risky.

Also no one there outright defends another one of them. Titus even distanced twie a bit and that ate from her regarding spifflop was icky. Tso jumps all over the place, perhaps on purpose but he's an interesting fellow. Interesting doesn't have too much interest in the thread since he's scum, he just asks for a summary so scum can figure out how they view the game. Um townbloc from Titus is a home free card if she gets it going as scum and it makes strong arms much easier.

This is just speculating, again, but what are people thinking here?

Half of the people you're naming here you have literally just picked out of a hat.

The logic you're using doesn't even hold up under basic examination. The bolded is just flat-out wrong.

I would be delighted to see where I have been "jumping all over the place" - it simply hasn't happened.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Half of the people you're naming here you have literally just picked out of a hat.

The logic you're using doesn't even hold up under basic examination. The bolded is just flat-out wrong.

I would be delighted to see where I have been "jumping all over the place" - it simply hasn't happened.

For those who didn't believe TSO belonged in 1436, what do you think of this? this is quite the reaction to just throwing some names at the wall speculatively

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Yeah, arguing with the Scums is getting to be a pain in the ass. I think I'll spend my Sunday & maybe Monday sorting through the Null pile.

Can't Read:

Alchemist21
Aneninen
Garmr

Town:

Errantparabola
Extrapolated Eagle
Shiro
Spider Gwen
Varsoon

Lean Town:

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra)
I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)
TSO

Null:

Grapes
Randomidget
Spifflop(Spiffeh & Hiplop hydra)
TheWayItEnds

Lean Scum:

Aunt Jemina

Scum:

Elyse
Inte
Itlepip
Passionate Storm(Jeanne11 & Titus hydra)
PeregrineV

These are good. I would personally prefer you push something before completely sorting everything, however. Could you explain the itlepip scum read? I had town for him, just disillusioned.

Oh and your wagon analysis is off. See Legends of the Hidden Temple.

I expect a townie to have voted for Spiffeh at some point, thus convincing scum the wagon has a chance.

If a scum is wagoned early, scum have two options. Bus or find a counter. I think we both can agree bus is not likely an option. So Klingon is thrown out as a counter suggestion.

Umm...bullshit?

This one is now taking advantage of a player's inexperience to manipulate him to her way of thinking. Scum, particularly Titus and TSO when they are scum, will ardently defend their scum mates early in a game because they are able to make it wifom when someone is calling them out for said defense because there will be plenty townies on early mislynched who are thinking the lynched was scum at the time. Titus is probably scum here. A man was trying to not have to sort this one prior to D2 because of that one's D1 track record but a man isn't sitting idly by while she is poisoning the minds of all she can.

Don't worry about it. A single game isn't going to change my mind, and I continue to believe that her logical decisions are based on the fact that she's scum. The more manipulative she becomes, the more strength I gain in this belief.

Titus maybe
spiff prob not
tsos pretty town
having a read on inte is bold

i appreciate that you think that of the three people ive interacted with im scum with 2 of them.
the level of incompetence that assumes on my part is pretty great.

Haha, sorry, you've been pretty absent. Can I get a counter proposal from you?

1436
I would swap tso and inte/twie for spider Gwen and passionate storm but apart from that I agree.

1436
I would swap tso and inte/twie for spider Gwen and passionate storm but apart from that I agree.

So Titus manages to be on the scum team twice XD

Meant elyse
Also you are null for me, you are possibly part but not particularly sold on it.

I doubt spider Gwen and Elyse and passionate storm all scum. If you had to fix the team so this is true, share and explain?

I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)

Why are those two town leans?

I only once saw Vedith hard lurk and he was scum in greater idea. You were there kling.
Fire is also consistently far more active although that isn't alignment inducing for him

And IaI hasn't even said anything?

Does vedith usually post more? Should we be worried about his absence?

[itlepip]

Kling has not scumhunted whatsoever and shows no scumhunting initiative. That goes beyond having a shitty day 1.

You're lying.

Do you think no one can check my ISO?

Give me 1 single post where klingon actually does something to move town forward. She hasn't pushed anyone at all this game, nor has she defended herself. How is not defending yourself town if you aren't going to scumhunt? The whole point of voting is because the reactions people give when pressured can be used to form reads.

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepipVOTE:

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

What the fuck is this vote? Yes you have been defending yourself - I'll give you that - but even you agree that you haven't been scumhunting!

No, I have in fact been scumhunting. I posted a reads list, didn't I? Can't do that without checking out every player.

itlepip isn't on the table today. What are your thoughts on the spiff case? Besides that he's null. You must have some opinion on it. Is Jaqen full of shit or does the case have merit? I don't give a fuck about the question you asked AJ ten pages ago. You're using that to avoid scumhunting.

Whaaaat??

When did you become the Mod-Confirmed Special Snowflake?

Someone states an opinion-> Klingon dismisses it with an insult and doesn't actually either refute it or show a scum intent behind it. When we talk about attacking to discredit arguments this sort of post fits that exactly

If I want to vote your teammate Pip, then I'll do it. It's not up to you to decide who gets votes.

Weren't you complaining that people were not trying to work with town but to force town to do what they want, well at least they actually posted analysis, you are just saying 'you're scum you're scum you're scum you're scum like a toddler here

I'm taking a step back from the Spliff, having dealt with the Grim Reaper all summer. I'm just not able to go there right this minute.

Again no actual content

Jaqen is not full of shit. However, Dapper & I are looking from 2 different angles.

Again no actual content, what are those angles...

You had better start giving a fuck about Aunt Jemima's behavior. I checked, there's nothing anywhere on the site that says FoS voting is scummy. So why did she use that as an excuse to vote for me? Why did she not say anything when I gave my explanation for the FoS, then changed it to a real vote when that other game ended?

Cause in the game of mafia, early in the game you need to build up pressure to get reads. I agree that voting someone cause of a FoS is weak, but when that person reacts the way you do they are scum

And why did some players sheep her instead of calling her out?

Cause you were super scummy when you responded, no one is voting you right now because of the FoS, they are voting you because your posts stink

Spifflop - dapper's reasoning basically. He made some good points. Scum

Another guy that is shoehorning Jaqen's case and using it as an opportunity to ignore Klingon's scumminess and remove her greatest adversary.

This is scum with Klingon.

You need to realize that you missed your guess this time. I am not Scum.

Again no actual content

Also didn't you not think that Spifflop was scum earlier, can you explain why you switched? The only reason I can think of is that it is too obvious to vote all of your wagon

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepip

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

HOW DO PEOPLE THINK THIS IS TOWN.
SHE GIVES ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THIS VOTE HOLY SHIT.

~Spiffy

Yes I did:

The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead,

Town is expected to work for you

Again no actual content

Spiff-you didn't explain your vote on itlepip Klingon-OMG YOU ARE NOT WORKING WITH TOWN.

Kling's reads are horrible, based on seemingly no substance or anything, ...

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your reads.

Again no actual content

Oooh kill em... Could you actually talk about his reads then instead of just naysaying everything. You still have no content in your ISO.

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

THEN EXPLAIN YOUR SCUMREADS!!!! THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE SAID THIS GAME FOR DEFENSE IS "YOU ARE LYING" OR "MY META IS DIFFERENT". NONE OF THOSE ACTUALLY MOVE TOWN FORWARDS

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

fuck you. First off if you think we are scum then this would be good play for us, so you would be insulting us for playing the game properly. The fact that you don't assume this is a 100% scum slip. You know that we are town so you are pissed at the way we play, if you thought we actually were scum this sentence doesn't make any sense.

...Klingon is incapable of lurking away pressure as either alignment. As scum, you get active lurking shit. As town, she gets pissed off her reads are not taken seriously while acknowledging D1 is not her best play. Here's she's just bitching about being wagoned and tried to active lurk.

I'm not active lurking.

I'm not bitching.

You're drunk and lying.

You're also very mistaken with my experience, Titus. You obviously forgot where I came from. Remember that site? I live in the basement there - where there are real Scum - the guy that tried to shoot up that theater in Georgia was a member there. Stormfront members. All kinds of pervs. Trailer trash, tin hatters, religious nuts, addicts ... those are real people, not characters in a game.

This is pertinent how? Like how the hell does this mean that you are town

You didn't teach me as much as you think.

@Klingon explain your rvs FoS one more time for me. I already read your first explanation, I know but I'm a curious man and a bit forgetful. It shouldn't take long, could you just explain it really quick?

There was another game going on at the time. She replaced into a slot that was universally read as Scum, when the next day finally started it only lasted 11 posts before she was lynched.

Even though that slot was guilty as all hell, I felt pretty sad about lynching her there and dropping a vote on her here at the same time. After the mod ended the game Titus told us that she was told by the mod that she was without question going to be lynched. Until then I didn't know if she was aware of the situation there.

Since she was, and was okay with it, I felt better about changing my FoS to a real vote.

I can't believe that sympathy is seen as scummy here. :roll:

I AM NOT SCUMREADING YOU BECAUSE OF THE FOS, I AM SCUM READING YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM AND HAVEN"T HELPED TOWN

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Yeah, arguing with the Scums is getting to be a pain in the ass. I think I'll spend my Sunday & maybe Monday sorting through the Null pile.

Can't Read:

Alchemist21
Aneninen
Garmr

Town:

Errantparabola
Extrapolated Eagle
Shiro
Spider Gwen
Varsoon

Lean Town:

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra)
I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)
TSO

Null:

Grapes
Randomidget
Spifflop(Spiffeh & Hiplop hydra)
TheWayItEnds

Lean Scum:

Aunt Jemina

Scum:

Elyse
Inte
Itlepip
Passionate Storm(Jeanne11 & Titus hydra)
PeregrineV

^doesn't count as scumhunting

Oh and your wagon analysis is off. See Legends of the Hidden Temple.

I expect a townie to have voted for Spiffeh at some point, thus convincing scum the wagon has a chance.

If a scum is wagoned early, scum have two options. Bus or find a counter. I think we both can agree bus is not likely an option. So Klingon is thrown out as a counter suggestion.

Umm...bullshit?

This one is now taking advantage of a player's inexperience to manipulate him to her way of thinking. Scum, particularly Titus and TSO when they are scum, will ardently defend their scum mates early in a game because they are able to make it wifom when someone is calling them out for said defense because there will be plenty townies on early mislynched who are thinking the lynched was scum at the time. Titus is probably scum here. A man was trying to not have to sort this one prior to D2 because of that one's D1 track record but a man isn't sitting idly by while she is poisoning the minds of all she can.

This is better rhetoric than Klingon, but it still doesn't have any point. Yes if you assume Titus is scum and Spifflop is scum then you can prove scum intent. But the same thing applies to you and Klingon. You don't prove that your world is more realistic than the you-klingong world, so this post doesn't do anything. The thing is that there are two big factions in the game, and both sides think that the other side is 100% scum self-defending. If Klingon flips town you guys should lynch me, Titus and Spiff, but when she flips scum we should be able to lynch you and random as a result. Basically we are 3v3ing right now.

[Shiro]

Does vedith usually post more? Should we be worried about his absence?

He is active as town yes. Usually at the bottom of the top posters. Fire tends to be at the high middle of top posters.

This game they are both nowhere.

[itlepip]

Kling has not scumhunted whatsoever and shows no scumhunting initiative. That goes beyond having a shitty day 1.

You're lying.

Do you think no one can check my ISO?

I checked your iso, remember the 0/n post? You have never scumhunt this game

Give me 1 single post where klingon actually does something to move town forward. She hasn't pushed anyone at all this game, nor has she defended herself. How is not defending yourself town if you aren't going to scumhunt? The whole point of voting is because the reactions people give when pressured can be used to form reads.

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepipVOTE:

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

What the fuck is this vote? Yes you have been defending yourself - I'll give you that - but even you agree that you haven't been scumhunting!

No, I have in fact been scumhunting. I posted a reads list, didn't I? Can't do that without checking out every player.

A readlist does not scumhunting make. Anyone can make a readslist all you do is put the people scumreading you at the bottom and townreading you at the top and then mix them around a little to make it less suspicious.

itlepip isn't on the table today. What are your thoughts on the spiff case? Besides that he's null. You must have some opinion on it. Is Jaqen full of shit or does the case have merit? I don't give a fuck about the question you asked AJ ten pages ago. You're using that to avoid scumhunting.

Whaaaat??

When did you become the Mod-Confirmed Special Snowflake?

Someone states an opinion-> Klingon dismisses it with an insult and doesn't actually either refute it or show a scum intent behind it. When we talk about attacking to discredit arguments this sort of post fits that exactly

If I want to vote your teammate Pip, then I'll do it. It's not up to you to decide who gets votes.

Weren't you complaining that people were not trying to work with town but to force town to do what they want, well at least they actually posted analysis, you are just saying 'you're scum you're scum you're scum you're scum like a toddler here

I'm taking a step back from the Spliff, having dealt with the Grim Reaper all summer. I'm just not able to go there right this minute.

Again no actual content

Jaqen is not full of shit. However, Dapper & I are looking from 2 different angles.

Again no actual content, what are those angles...

You had better start giving a fuck about Aunt Jemima's behavior. I checked, there's nothing anywhere on the site that says FoS voting is scummy. So why did she use that as an excuse to vote for me? Why did she not say anything when I gave my explanation for the FoS, then changed it to a real vote when that other game ended?

Cause in the game of mafia, early in the game you need to build up pressure to get reads. I agree that voting someone cause of a FoS is weak, but when that person reacts the way you do they are scum

And why did some players sheep her instead of calling her out?

Cause you were super scummy when you responded, no one is voting you right now because of the FoS, they are voting you because your posts stink

Spifflop - dapper's reasoning basically. He made some good points. Scum

Another guy that is shoehorning Jaqen's case and using it as an opportunity to ignore Klingon's scumminess and remove her greatest adversary.

This is scum with Klingon.

You need to realize that you missed your guess this time. I am not Scum.

Again no actual content

Also didn't you not think that Spifflop was scum earlier, can you explain why you switched? The only reason I can think of is that it is too obvious to vote all of your wagon

I've spent most of my time in this game defending myself, what the hell game have you been watching?

As for Scum hunting, defending myself has taken up most of my time, but I have asked some questions (I still await AJ's reply.)

It's not like you're acting super Towny or anything. The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead, Town is expected to work for you.

VOTE: itlepip

There - I found Scum, Pip. Ya happy?

HOW DO PEOPLE THINK THIS IS TOWN.
SHE GIVES ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THIS VOTE HOLY SHIT.

~Spiffy

Yes I did:

The best course of action is for Town to work together and you don't seem at all interested in that. Instead,

Town is expected to work for you

Again no actual content

Spiff-you didn't explain your vote on itlepip Klingon-OMG YOU ARE NOT WORKING WITH TOWN.

Kling's reads are horrible, based on seemingly no substance or anything, ...

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your reads.

Again no actual content

Oooh kill em... Could you actually talk about his reads then instead of just naysaying everything. You still have no content in your ISO.

last post tonight

... kling ... Her completely fabricated reads, the ... meta on her by titus, her dodging of questions, her complete inability to scumread someone who wasn't for her strategic benefit.

My reads are not fabricated. I ISO'd everyone and gave a very honest read. Titus is either lying or she's lying, my meta is not what she says it is. I scumread the scummy, simple as that.

THEN EXPLAIN YOUR SCUMREADS!!!! THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE SAID THIS GAME FOR DEFENSE IS "YOU ARE LYING" OR "MY META IS DIFFERENT". NONE OF THOSE ACTUALLY MOVE TOWN FORWARDS

You, Titus, and some others are trying way too hard to make a case that isn't there.

It's like watching republicans calling Muhammad Ali a radical Islamic.

fuck you. First off if you think we are scum then this would be good play for us, so you would be insulting us for playing the game properly. The fact that you don't assume this is a 100% scum slip. You know that we are town so you are pissed at the way we play, if you thought we actually were scum this sentence doesn't make any sense.

...Klingon is incapable of lurking away pressure as either alignment. As scum, you get active lurking shit. As town, she gets pissed off her reads are not taken seriously while acknowledging D1 is not her best play. Here's she's just bitching about being wagoned and tried to active lurk.

I'm not active lurking.

I'm not bitching.

You're drunk and lying.

You're also very mistaken with my experience, Titus. You obviously forgot where I came from. Remember that site? I live in the basement there - where there are real Scum - the guy that tried to shoot up that theater in Georgia was a member there. Stormfront members. All kinds of pervs. Trailer trash, tin hatters, religious nuts, addicts ... those are real people, not characters in a game.

This is pertinent how? Like how the hell does this mean that you are town

You didn't teach me as much as you think.

@Klingon explain your rvs FoS one more time for me. I already read your first explanation, I know but I'm a curious man and a bit forgetful. It shouldn't take long, could you just explain it really quick?

There was another game going on at the time. She replaced into a slot that was universally read as Scum, when the next day finally started it only lasted 11 posts before she was lynched.

Even though that slot was guilty as all hell, I felt pretty sad about lynching her there and dropping a vote on her here at the same time. After the mod ended the game Titus told us that she was told by the mod that she was without question going to be lynched. Until then I didn't know if she was aware of the situation there.

Since she was, and was okay with it, I felt better about changing my FoS to a real vote.

I can't believe that sympathy is seen as scummy here. :roll:

I AM NOT SCUMREADING YOU BECAUSE OF THE FOS, I AM SCUM READING YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM AND HAVEN"T HELPED TOWN

@Elyse, ok thanks. Sorry something clicked in my head and I wanted to try to figure out which thing it was.

@Klingon I know you're trying to work in order but I'd like to say that you aren't helping town by simply defending yourself every night. I get more and more suspicious every time you fail to hunt down scum reads or become aggressive. You don't have time to respond to every accusation against you and it's a silly thing to do anyway. So pick a target and head in that direction. Any target. As long as you can convince me you've got good reason for it (not "they're voting for me") or that it is something that is helpful to town I will remain cautious about placing my vote on you.

Yeah, arguing with the Scums is getting to be a pain in the ass. I think I'll spend my Sunday & maybe Monday sorting through the Null pile.

Can't Read:

Alchemist21
Aneninen
Garmr

Town:

Errantparabola
Extrapolated Eagle
Shiro
Spider Gwen
Varsoon

Lean Town:

Dapper Stranger(Fresh & Jaqen hydra)
I Am Innocent
My Other Head Is Scum(Vedith & FireBringer hydra)
TSO

Null:

Grapes
Randomidget
Spifflop(Spiffeh & Hiplop hydra)
TheWayItEnds

Lean Scum:

Aunt Jemina

Scum:

Elyse
Inte
Itlepip
Passionate Storm(Jeanne11 & Titus hydra)
PeregrineV

^doesn't count as scumhunting

Oh and your wagon analysis is off. See Legends of the Hidden Temple.

I expect a townie to have voted for Spiffeh at some point, thus convincing scum the wagon has a chance.

If a scum is wagoned early, scum have two options. Bus or find a counter. I think we both can agree bus is not likely an option. So Klingon is thrown out as a counter suggestion.

Umm...bullshit?

This one is now taking advantage of a player's inexperience to manipulate him to her way of thinking. Scum, particularly Titus and TSO when they are scum, will ardently defend their scum mates early in a game because they are able to make it wifom when someone is calling them out for said defense because there will be plenty townies on early mislynched who are thinking the lynched was scum at the time. Titus is probably scum here. A man was trying to not have to sort this one prior to D2 because of that one's D1 track record but a man isn't sitting idly by while she is poisoning the minds of all she can.

[/quote]This is better rhetoric than Klingon, but it still doesn't have any point. Yes if you assume Titus is scum and Spifflop is scum then you can prove scum intent. But the same thing applies to you and Klingon. You don't prove that your world is more realistic than the you-klingong world, so this post doesn't do anything. The thing is that there are two big factions in the game, and both sides think that the other side is 100% scum self-defending. If Klingon flips town you guys should lynch me, Titus and Spiff, but when she flips scum we should be able to lynch you and random as a result. Basically we are 3v3ing right now.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Hm no maybe MAYBE not Titus.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Itlepip where are you getting by arguing? Reactions? I thought you were already certain she was scum? So where are you going with this? Are you legitimately trying to clog up the thread and cloud reads with emotions? I don't think arguing is very much a town move. In fact I think it's pretty anti town. But if youd like to explore other possibilities or make a second case against her, that would be cool. I just don't see what yelling is accomplishing, though.

[itlepip]

Itlepip where are you getting by arguing? Reactions? I thought you were already certain she was scum? So where are you going with this? Are you legitimately trying to clog up the thread and cloud reads with emotions? I don't think arguing is very much a town move. In fact I think it's pretty anti town. But if youd like to explore other possibilities or make a second case against her, that would be cool. I just don't see what yelling is accomplishing, though.

My point (which I had hoped you would understand) was that in the page and a half of posts she made, she hadn't backed up any of her claims with any evidence outside of 'my meta isn't that, stop lying about my meta'. I explained at the end that it really is a 3v3 right now, and I'm trying to get unaffiliated town to side with my 3 by pointing out that how scummy Klingon is. You complained about how I was telling town that Klingon was scummy instead talking with town, so that is what I'm trying to do here. Also the racist post riled me up a little.

[jasonT1981]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt

(9): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O

Spifflop

(5): grapes, Dapper Stranger, Extrapolated Eagle, randomidget, PeregrineV

Passionate Storm

(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21

Shiro

(1): My Other Head Is Scum

grapes

(1): Shiro

Errantparabola

(1): I Am Innocent

itlepip

(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting

(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola

V/LA

(1): I am Innocent (Monday)

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

[itlepip]

Jason can you spoiler my first post please, I meant to hit preview and I think the post got sent by accident.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Itlepip where are you getting by arguing? Reactions? I thought you were already certain she was scum? So where are you going with this? Are you legitimately trying to clog up the thread and cloud reads with emotions? I don't think arguing is very much a town move. In fact I think it's pretty anti town. But if youd like to explore other possibilities or make a second case against her, that would be cool. I just don't see what yelling is accomplishing, though.

My point (which I had hoped you would understand) was that in the page and a half of posts she made, she hadn't backed up any of her claims with any evidence outside of 'my meta isn't that, stop lying about my meta'. I explained at the end that it really is a 3v3 right now, and I'm trying to get unaffiliated town to side with my 3 by pointing out that how scummy Klingon is. You complained about how I was telling town that Klingon was scummy instead talking with town, so that is what I'm trying to do here. Also the racist post riled me up a little.

Oh yes, thank you. I recognize how scummy she has been. But I am trying to figure out if she is scum defending aggressively or town defending desperately.

[Alchemist21]

@Shiro

I'm pretty sure I mentioned I still didn't see snark in Anen's linked game. I dropped it though since I concluded he's not an immediate threat. Also, have you read what I said about Passionate Storm? Opinioms there?

@TSO

Wanna talk? You're asking people about their scumreads on me but I'm not sure what your read on me is. I may have missed it, but did you state more reasons for joining the Kling wagon other than didn't like their ISO?

[Elyse]

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I would swap tso and inte/twie for spider Gwen and passionate storm but apart from that I agree.

So Titus manages to be on the scum team twice XD

Meant elyse
Also you are null for me, you are possibly part but not particularly sold on it.

That's bullshit

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I think we have one of two possible scum teams at this point in time:

Team Were going to get what we want even though it's kinda scummy and rub it in your face through WIFOM and strongarm
This team is some semblance of Titus, tso, spifflop, inte, shiro, twie and Elyse (from scummier to scummiless or something close to that)

Or the true lurker scum scum team:
Which goes something like ep, aj, Klingon OR itlepip, varsoon, and alchemists. Maybe garmr or something close to that.

Randomidget is probably town, as is dapper and maybe spider Gwen
I'm actually leaning more towards the second group at this moment in time

[Alchemist21]

How does Shiro fit into the group of strongarmers? How do you link her with any of those people?

[itlepip]

How am I a lurker? How am I similar to Klingon wtf.

Your two teams don't make much sense to me.

[Elyse]

@itlepip
Stop ignoring meeeeeee

P-edit:
So now I'm on the bottom of the scummy list? Interesting.

I don't get why itlepip is in the lurker group either or why twie and Inte aren't. How did you make those distinctions?

[Aneninen]

I'll catch up later

today

tomorrow.
If there's anything I should answer or examine fast, please tell!

Sorry for being useless.

[itlepip]

Do you mean these?

@itlepip
Pls read my last post

@EE
Jeanne is incompetent. Don't hold your breath. I also don't understand how I haven't been "getting dirty" - I've pushed Kling and was the first to call out randomidget. I've called Jaqen's case bullshit and dismantled your case before it got so full of misreps that no one was taking it seriously and I didn't bother trying. You literally make things up to fit your narrative.

@Jaqen
As someone who is "cleared" from a Spiff scumflip, how do you feel that I am against it?

I can't sleep :/

But a big YAS to everything Spiff is saying like holy shit it's frustrating how people are degrading the Klingon case to the FoS in RVS. Like have you SEEN any of her posts?

yes this point is correct. Is that all you want from me or...

[Shiro]

Also, have you read what I said about Passionate Storm? Opinioms there?

Eh, could easily come from town.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

sorry should clarify:

I believe that generally speaking scum play around each other to fit in where there isn't much. So there will be lurkers in group strongarm and strong arms in group lurker

How does Shiro fit into the group of strongarmers? How do you link her with any of those people?

She's gut for now
You asked an interesting question in response to a post that says you're likely scum.

How am I a lurker? How am I similar to Klingon wtf.

Your two teams don't make much sense to me.

Not similar to Klingon and you're not a lurker. But generally speaking that team is in the background. I put you or Klingon because I don't think you're on a team together

@itlepip
Stop ignoring meeeeeee

P-edit:
So now I'm on the bottom of the scummy list? Interesting.

I don't get why itlepip is in the lurker group either or why twie and Inte aren't. How did you make those distinctions?

I don't think inte or twie works well with the lurker team.

I also get the general feeling you're not scum. I put you on the end of that list because I'm not set on you being town yet and you MIGHT be part of that team but I don't believe it

[Passionate Storm]

Does vedith usually post more? Should we be worried about his absence?

He is active as town yes. Usually at the bottom of the top posters. Fire tends to be at the high middle of top posters.

This game they are both nowhere.

Correct but when I have lynched Vedith based on this, he has flipped town. See Midnight Sun.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

That's who I missed. Other head might belong in team lurker

[Passionate Storm]

EE, it bothers me for such an intelligent player all your results are filtered through klingontown.

You are missing how scum normally behave here.