You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Passionate Storm]

No one is reading this for content but confbiasing.

Can we lynch Klingon already?

~Titus

[Extrapolated Eagle]

No one is reading this for content but confbiasing.

Can we lynch Klingon already?

~Titus

We lynch Klingon- she flips town. What happens then, Titus?

We lynch Klingon- she flips scum. What happens now? How do you follow up? Where? Just interrogate those who haven't really recognized her?

[Passionate Storm]

No one is reading this for content but confbiasing.

Can we lynch Klingon already?

~Titus

We lynch Klingon- she flips town. What happens then, Titus?

We lynch Klingon- she flips scum. What happens now? How do you follow up? Where? Just interrogate those who haven't really recognized her?

We fuck the mid for lying.

We lynch dapper.

[Passionate Storm]

Aren't you the least big concerned about the first part of my post?

[Extrapolated Eagle]

No one is reading this for content but confbiasing.

Can we lynch Klingon already?

~Titus

We lynch Klingon- she flips town. What happens then, Titus?

We lynch Klingon- she flips scum. What happens now? How do you follow up? Where? Just interrogate those who haven't really recognized her?

We fuck the mid for lying.

We lynch dapper.

Who lied? Who's mid? Did I miss something?

Dapper? I am really not certain I agree with the logic that they could be on the same team.

And I would like to be on the same page as much as possible before ending day.

Aren't you the least big concerned about the first part of my post?

I am now. It did not concern me at first. I simply looked and thought: "this is probably true of me as well" and thought no more of it. Is there more I should get out of this? Other than I guess this confirms your tso read. Although I guess the big question for you, is do you think this is true of you?

[Passionate Storm]

Mid is mod. Autocorrect. If Klingon is town, we fuck the mod for lying.

You're not certain you agree with me and I am not certain you're town.

I haven't given an articulable decent thought on the last several pages. If I can get away with that, no one is reading to hunt anymore. Everyone is posting to persuade and not listening.

Time to get a flip in here.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Mid is mod. Autocorrect. If Klingon is town, we fuck the mod for lying.

You're not certain you agree with me and I am not certain you're town.

I haven't given an articulable decent thought on the last several pages. If I can get away with that, no one is reading to hunt anymore. Everyone is posting to persuade and not listening.

Time to get a flip in here.

Ah.

You shouldn't be? Except you seen to be certain Klingon is scum.

To be fair, I think a lot of people just stopped reading after dapper s post about spiff scum, and some before that. But you're right. I haven't gained much out of the last thirty or so pages and that frustrates me. Other than aneninen off vote when I on voted Klingon, of course. That made me more suspicious of him and varsoon. And Taos overreaction to me throwing names at the wall. That made me more suspicious of him, and his aggression now seems to be an attempt to cover his tracks.


BTW what do people think of aneninen and Elyse and tso and ep and Klingon scum? Kinda works or doesn't work?

Oh and Elyse has looked scummier over the past couple pages. I will say that I also have gained a very very strong desire to punch some people in the face and in at least some cases I think this feeling is mutual

Anyways, not Klingon today. Elyse?

[Passionate Storm]

Words words words


Flip has to be Klingon. She tells the most about the most people.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Words words words


Flip has to be Klingon. She tells the most about the most people.

What does she say if town?

[Passionate Storm]

That the mod lied.

Ask me post flip if that never going to happen thing happens.

[Aunt Jemina]

Do you believe exxy could be scum I presented most of day 1 pushing this. I'd like your opion on my points.

Exxy, bless his heart, is sweet, I am fairly sure. Points against him have done nothing.

I simply wish he was someone I could work with.

AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.

I simply do not see Exxy's posting as sour. There is also the fact that prior to the Spiffyloppy counterwagon to Celty, there was an Exxy counterwagon to Celty. Almost identical names, even. That is as much as I can really say.

[Randomnamechange]

What is the mod lying about?

[Shiro]

I should probably make my way through the 20+ pages, and I think I will, but for now I'm selling my vote to the first person to request it. Be like a jump start, perhaps.

Alchemist. What part of this made you think town?

[itlepip]

Words words words


Flip has to be Klingon. She tells the most about the most people.

What does she say if town?

It means that Spifflop and Titus should be looked at, but Dapper and random are still on the table for whiteknighting.

[inte]

tso with the heat

[Alchemist21]

Have you seen my scumgame before? I only remember 2 games with you (HU2 and Space Dandy) and I was Town in both. Is there a game I'm forgetting you were in?

Yes, but I'm too tired to look for it. I also observed quite a few games up until last April, good way to learn. And if I don't know a player very well I'll go to their profile page and ISO all their games.

And there were the games at Wake's forum.

Wake's forum? Aside from here, I've only played mafia games on Otaku Central, The Millenium Forums, 1 game on Vendetta Strada, and a couple on Mafia Universe.

[Alchemist21]

I should probably make my way through the 20+ pages, and I think I will, but for now I'm selling my vote to the first person to request it. Be like a jump start, perhaps.

Alchemist. What part of this made you think town?

It was light-natured, and I don't see scum just blatantly giving away their vote to the first person who asks.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Alright, I'm sorry guys for the way Ivr been lately, I promise I'm not usually this much of a dick, or very unreasonable. I like working with people. But rl has been incredibly stressful lately and I just dint have the capacity to deal with the stress of rl and put the time and energy I want to make sure everyone is on the same page or explaining things to people, so instead of explaining I've been yelling at people sfot asking questions and trying to work with me. I'm really sorry about this, so I'm going to have to v/la until Friday. I'll change my vote if need be for a lynch before deadline, but other than that my posting will be limited until this is dealt with (hopefully by Friday or Saturday.) I promise I'm a good person who tries to work with people, so I'm really sorry to the people I've been a jerk to, namely spiff, tso, Elyse, and anyone else. My reads over the past few days are probably also garbage since I haven't been able to read like I want to nd they've been disgustingly sporadic and poorly researched. Which is why I put my vote back in Elyse.

I personally do not agree with the klingin wagon or lynch, but if it gets closer to deadline and there are no other options that I find scummy, I will add my vote there just so we can get a lynch.

I want to say this, though: Titus is right in that we have had thirty pages and not really gone anywhere in the last thirty pages, which is rather sad and kind of proof of the point that we should spend the next couple pages trying to get on similar pages and working together.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

So tl:dr, I'm sorry to people I've been a jerk to, I'm not usually like this, I promise, haven't been able to focus, reads probably crap, rl stuff...

@mod please consider me v/la until Friday

Eagle

[jasonT1981]

Official Vote Count

Klingoncelt (8): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina,Spider Gwen,
Spifflop (3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, PeregrineV
Elyse (2): randomidget, Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm (1): Alchemist21
Alchemist21 (2): Shiro, Varsoon
Shiro (1): My Other Head Is Scum
Errantparabola (1): I Am Innocent

Not Voting (5): inte, Klingoncelt, Errantparabola, Aneninen, TheWayItEnds,
V/LA (1): Extrapolated Eagle (Friday)
Prods sent (3): I Am Innocent hiplop Spiffeh


With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline

(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

Mod note - Sorry folks, had a bit of an issue, my account got disabled.

[Randomnamechange]

Words words words


Flip has to be Klingon. She tells the most about the most people.

What does she say if town?

It means that Spifflop and Titus should be looked at, but Dapper and random are still on the table for whiteknighting.

I'm not white knighting, I just don't think he is scum.

[T S O]

I expected some justification for the vote or acknowledgement. Idk if someone said that to me I'd be angry and show them why they're wrong. Random just seems to be coasting by and shitty votes that he knows are shitty and doesn't care.

Well, yes, that's what you'd do, but we're talking about midget here. If he doesn't even hold himself to a reasonable playing standard, then why would you?

Interesting that Eagle jumps back on me after someone else votes there. He called me scum for something similar earlier in the game. I also thought he wasn't scumreading me that much anymore. Oh well guess he changed his reads completely again.

Unfortunately, this is indeed an accurate summary of what EE's been doing recently.

By the way, is TSO intentionally misrepresenting cases a thing?

Not unless I'm scum, or I feel that it's a weak case in comparison to a better case that I'm championing.

Typically I assume it is something that is not alignment indicative but based in everyone's reaction to him, I assumed he was an excellent player who was careful and deliberate to make sure he had everything.

Oh you, stop making me blush.

Do you believe this to be a poor assumption on my part, or is the fact that he seems to be pretending to be dumb a sign of his alignment?

Neither. There's no misrepping going on. Even if there was, the simplest way to prove this would be to

answer the questions I'm asking you.

It's the quickest and the most effective way of proving your point, if you have one.

But, aside from that - what cases have I been misrepresenting? I'm backing the Klingon one, and I have yet to comment on any other significant ones, such as Spifflop. No idea where you're getting this from either.

Unvote
Vote Klingon

A good vote, and good posting before it as well.

Dont worry, I'm nowhere near as cocky as I sound. But I have noticed, at least in this game, when I don't act cocky or arrogant, arrogant people try to manipulate me and talk about me like I'm a bug to be observed under a microscope. I'm not about to let that continue to happen, and because of this I'm not interested in giving TSO the respect he refused to give me.

I have no idea where this hostility is coming from - I play Mafia in an aggressive manner when it necessitates it. Your failure to respond to me in any way is obviously going to spark a certain level of derision. The solution to this is simply to answer questions that people ask you.

If/when he's ready to not be shit head to dapper

Jaqen threw the first punch by calling my early game bad, and we've since agreed to discuss it in postgame. In what part of this am I being a shithead?

I'm not answering his questions before then

Can you give me a specific timeframe when you

will

, then? It's not that hard to do. And they're eminently answerable questions, in the event that you are town.

especially since he's asking questions about a vote on Klingon that lasted a whole couple of hours.

Surely you see that the length of time your vote lasted doesn't magically negate the need for its reasoning to be explained.

TSO- are you math saavy?

Fairly, yes.

I've been kinda sorta fast reading, but I really haven't seen TSO misrep anything. Granted, I have been sorta skimming you, because you have no idea what you're talking about and it gets kinda tiring having to read that. I know what you've said. I just don't put much stock in it.

I wasn't counting you actually reading it. Just his past. And I wasn't asking about this game. More about past experience.

Again - I fail to see what case I could have misrepped this game. But, to answer your question - no.

He seems rather stuck on my "throw a bunch of names at a wall" post. Which is interesting. I don't think I like it. He also seems more obsessed with me as scum then he does seem actually reading me.

It was a very poor post. I do not think anyone in the game will disagree with that verdict - multiple people have echoed it. I have to admit, I am still vaguely torn on your alignment. AJ and I shared very similar reads in YCBA III, with solid success. Her strong townread on you does give me pause. But the way you continually evade actually responding to me is pretty bad.

But he also seems rather defensive about how I brought up that he jumps around a lot. Which, by the way, is in reference to how his catch up posts seem to skip things.

Well, it's nice to finally know what the phrase means, if a little anticlimactic. Assuming this is true, which I am honestly too weary to argue about, do you feel it's something that I'm more likely to do as scum than as town? I fail to see how this is so.

Also, for some reason I think he thinks I wanted Klingon dead.

Yes, usually this is the assumption I make when somebody votes a leading wagon.

Or that my vote wasn't just for reactions, which should have been rather apparent

It was in no way obvious to me. It's possible that it was to others, but I didn't see anyone else pick up on the subtext either.

I know I at least stated that I did not really believe Klingon was scum here:

3. Yes. I one hundred percent can put it off on you when I voted her, and I did. You know why? Because both of you were WAY too confident she was scum. I was pretty confident she wasn't. She might be, but she probably wasn't. So no, I didn't flip my read on her. I've read her as null:town and null:scum alternating for a while now, but the vote on her did not reflect a desire to see her lynched. It was a reaction vote. I wanted to see what you would do.

What reaction were you expecting to get from this, and what did you think it could tell you about ...whatever you thought it would? I have to say, I don't really know where this is going at all.

I also don't like how he seems to manipulate me: you're a good player, but you play like trash that holds town back oh wait you won't respond to me because I'm being an arrogant jerk who won't read the thread? Oh. You're definitely a trash player then. I'm sorry I said you might be good. Correct me if I'm reading this wrong anyone.

I would also support people correcting this - these events are totally fictional. You're inferring things that don't exist.

Klingon's most recent pushes have been on weak players, lurkers, people who she knows are quite vulnerable. Pip, inte, that sort of thing. The pushes also suck ass, for what it's worth. This sort of horrible opportunism when close to death is not what Klingon-town would be doing.

Pip will flip Scum.

Inte, yeah, that's weak, but I get pissed off when the game's fairly intense and someone dicks it up with a prodge. Why sign up for a game that's gonna last until spring just to prod dodge?

Can you explain your top scumread to me, coherently and concisely? I'm sure that, if you flip town, you'd like this information to be well known.

AJ is probably town, really. I'd like to talk to her about Eagle - I never felt she expanded on that townread enough.

I simply do not see Exxy's posting as sour. There is also the fact that prior to the Spiffyloppy counterwagon to Celty, there was an Exxy counterwagon to Celty. Almost identical names, even. That is as much as I can really say.

I admit, I didn't notice this. I'll take a look at it later.

tso with the heat

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I should probably make my way through the 20+ pages, and I think I will, but for now I'm selling my vote to the first person to request it. Be like a jump start, perhaps.

Alchemist. What part of this made you think town?

It was light-natured, and I don't see scum just blatantly giving away their vote to the first person who asks.

This is a pretty poor reason to townread Peregrine.

I promise I'm a good person who tries to work with people, so I'm really sorry to the people I've been a jerk to, namely spiff, tso, Elyse, and anyone else. My reads over the past few days are probably also garbage since I haven't been able to read like I want to nd they've been disgustingly sporadic and poorly researched. Which is why I put my vote back in Elyse.

It's fine. Mafia is a heated game by nature, and it happens to us all. I'm still going to require answers to what I've been asking you, though.

[T S O]

Sorry for the walls, guys.

[T S O]

I do try to be succinct in general, but sometimes evils such as walls are necessary.

[T S O]

Klingoncelt (8): Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, T S O, Aunt Jemina,Spider Gwen,
Spifflop (3): grapes, Dapper Stranger, PeregrineV
Elyse (2): randomidget, Extrapolated Eagle
Alchemist21 (2): Shiro, Varsoon
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Passionate Storm (1): Alchemist21
Shiro (1): My Other Head Is Scum
Errantparabola (1): I Am Innocent

Not Voting (5): inte, Klingoncelt, Errantparabola, Aneninen, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

The cut-off point shows all the wagons that have a chance of success. In reality, neither Elyse nor Alchemist is being lynched today, and Spifflop is highly unlikely to happen either, but I'm being generous. As it stands, there are currently 8 people at minimum whose votes are useless. Move them somewhere they matter.

Klingoncelt is a delightful wagon which is sure to net you some towncred.