Mini 1746: Molla's Grand Idea Mafia

[Vedith]

RVS is not in town interest? Then why has this site been doing it every game for years?

RVS is only there to start people talking.
It means nothing in game as it's so easy to make a standard RVS even as scum.

[Skybird]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

[Diego1487]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

I don't like this. The first part feels buddyi-ish, and the second part feels like he

wants

us to think there's scum on the wagon.

[Diego1487]

See...I did not participate in RVS and I still got a read on page 3.

(Stops to pat back in self-congratulatory manner)

[Klazam]

truthfully, you participated by not participating.

VOTE: unvote

VOTE: lucky

general agreement towards this wagon, here.

[Vedith]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

I'm not against the votes on him, this is the best way to go forward and add pressure.
Even if scum are on him, it doesn't make him town.

[Vedith]

I don't like this. The first part feels buddyi-ish, and the second part feels like he wants us to think there's scum on the wagon.

What's wrong with wanting people to think about the possibilities?

See...I did not participate in RVS and I still got a read on page 3.

(Stops to pat back in self-congratulatory manner)

You might have a read, but that doesn't mean if it's wrong or right.
It's more of a chance to take the attention off you onto what looks like an easy target. That to me is scummy. See, that's a read of you to me, but it's by far too weak to start patting myself on the back. You should take note there.

[Vedith]

truthfully, you participated by not participating.

VOTE: unvote

VOTE: lucky

general agreement towards this wagon, here.

Okay, explain the general agreement here. I believe that one person said it was because he called up Diego but not Flubber for not joining in RVS?
I would love to hear your thought process on it though, unless this is just you trying to show involvement into the game without doing anything.

Also, lets discuss about Diego. By him not participating he has participated. Do you think that he was expecting the attention straight onto him after Flubber also didn't join the RVS?

[Diego1487]

I don't like this. The first part feels buddyi-ish, and the second part feels like he wants us to think there's scum on the wagon.

What's wrong with wanting people to think about the possibilities?

I didn't finish my thought on this. It should have read, "feels like he wants us to think there's scum on the wagon, without actually committing to anything." Appearance of scum hunting, without actually doing it.

See...I did not participate in RVS and I still got a read on page 3.

(Stops to pat back in self-congratulatory manner)

You might have a read, but that doesn't mean if it's wrong or right.
It's more of a chance to take the attention off you onto what looks like an easy target. That to me is scummy. See, that's a read of you to me, but it's by far too weak to start patting myself on the back. You should take note there.

Easy target? Come on Vedith...it's page 3 and it was the first thing said about Skybird in the game! Don't try to discredit my work just because you want to scum read me!

[Diego1487]

Also, lets discuss about Diego. By him not participating he has participated. Do you think that he was expecting the attention straight onto him after Flubber also didn't join the RVS?

I'll answer...I fully expected it, and I relish the chance. Bring on the wagon...I won't cave under pressure!

From the little I've read on Flubber's past, this is his meta, so his post was ignored...as it should.

[Skybird]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

I don't like this. The first part feels buddyi-ish, and the second part feels like he

wants

us to think there's scum on the wagon.

I don't buddy anyone. This post was me thinking outloud. As town it's better to get our thoughts out there.

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

I'm not against the votes on him, this is the best way to go forward and add pressure.
Even if scum are on him, it doesn't make him town.

Very true. It's just been my experience so far that the first quick wagon is almost always on town. But before you reply, understand that I am not trying to imply Diego is town.

[Lucky2u]

Fuck rvs

VOTE: vedith

Always scum. Always.

I will not be RSVing this game.

VOTE: diego

Claimed scum.

when someone makes a wierd RVS vote or refuses to do so, you find a free scum player!

Hey wait a minute,

@Lucky:

Why vote Diego for not RVSing, while in

#33

#29

you could have voted for Flubbernugget since he did not RVS either?

VOTE: Lucky2u

Fixed an error in my previous post.
In case nobody realised, my vote on Lucky was a serious one, because if he really believes 35 to be true, he should have voted for Flubbernugget in 29. Lucky, I want a response from you.

the simple boring answer is that I only skimmed the previous RVS votes on page 1 and didn't register flubber's post. I would defend myself further on this point but what exactly are you accusing me of? what's my scum agenda/game plan to have singling out diego? Speaking of which...

VOTE: klazam

I'm abandoning the diego wagon in favor of this delicious vote right here. Puts a third vote on diego after my own and dramonic's, while agreeing with the point that RVS is useful to the game. A few posts later and:

truthfully, you participated by not participating.

VOTE: unvote

VOTE: lucky

general agreement towards this wagon, here.

lol what? I'm tempted to call this too scummy to be scum, but I'll just take the Occam's razor route and say this is opportunistic scum behavior.

[GuiltyLion]

Diego looks town
Lucky looks town
Vedith looks probably?town. In the past he has only RVS voted me when he's scum but I think he might be finally adjusting his meta

VOTE: Klazam

Skybird is a ball of WIFOM that is gonna be impossible for me to read.

Very true. It's just been my experience so far that the first quick wagon is almost always on town.

But before you reply, understand that I am not trying to imply Diego is town.

Why bring this up at all if you're not going to use it to start developing your reads? If you were to know for a fact there was scum in those votes, would that affect your read on Diego? Do you think Diego's scumread on you is genuine?

[Vedith]

Easy target? Come on Vedith...it's page 3 and it was the first thing said about Skybird in the game! Don't try to discredit my work just because you want to scum read me!

Keep in mind, I only scum read you from your reaction.
You just jump straight off saying that someone is trying to buddy you because they said they don't agree with your wagon.
Now if that isn't an opportunity then I don't know what is.
I like the wording here though. "because you want to scum read me!" - Instead of wording it into me faking a scum read on you. It seems you already know 1 faction that I can't be.

[Vedith]

Diego looks town
Lucky looks town
Vedith looks probably?town. In the past he has only RVS voted me when he's scum but I think he might be finally adjusting his meta

I think anyone that plays with me knows that my RVS means nothing.
I have voted Lucky RVS both as scum and town, I have voted Dav as both scum and town...
Still thinking that you have my meta down, eh?

Also, explain why both Diego and Lucky look town.

And while you're at it, explain the Klazam vote.

I'm happy where my vote is, you seem to be content with sitting on the fence here, going where the wind takes you.

[SirCakez]

Yeah lucky why'd you roll scum this game?

This post feels really off to me. Can't tell if it's a joke or not

RVS is not in town interest? Then why has this site been doing it every game for years?

RVS is only there to start people talking.
It means nothing in game as it's so easy to make a standard RVS even as scum.

I know that, but it's in town's best interests to start talking, no?
I don't like the Diego wagon. It formed far too quickly for something relatively benign imo.
The Klazam wagon is one I agree on. VOTE: Klazam
His only two posts have been jumping on wagons as they form with little/bad reasoning for his votes.

[hi im Yakko]

I agree that RVS is just to get people talking.

I don't like the way the wagon has blown up so quickly on Diego. I wonder if there is scum in those votes.

Can you explain? Blown up quickly, there was only like three votes. I'm not saying he [diego] wasn't an easy vote. I'm saying you're exaggerating a bit.

[dramonic]

we could stop screwing aroung and lynch diego.
That sounds like a fantastic idea.

[Lucky2u]

You have 0 content. Backup your wish to lynch him please.

[GuiltyLion]

Also, explain why both Diego and Lucky look town.

And while you're at it, explain the Klazam vote.

I'm happy where my vote is, you seem to be content with sitting on the fence here, going where the wind takes you.

Diego is aggressively inviting people to vote him. Most of the time when I see that, it's town. Him assuming Skybird is 'buddying' was a bit off, but I think that's more likely town because I doubt scum would suggest someone is buddying them so early in the game off of such scant evidence. It's more likely that that's how he genuinely feels.

Lucky I thought made good points about Klazam and started the Diego wagon. I'm not inclined to believe scum!Lucky jumps off of it so quickly for someone else.

Klazam vote is basically a sheep off of Lucky and I think it's a better wagon than Diego.

Your last sentence is lazy, which fences am I sitting on? There aren't even any real winds blowing yet.

[Diego1487]

You just jump straight off saying that someone is trying to buddy you because they said they don't agree with your wagon.

I actually was saying that he was buddying you about the RVS discussion, it had nothing to do with my wagon.

[Vedith]

I actually was saying that he was buddying you about the RVS discussion, it had nothing to do with my wagon.

Even worse xD

[GuiltyLion]

I actually was saying that he was buddying you about the RVS discussion, it had nothing to do with my wagon.

Ah, I actually misinterpreted that as well. Thought "first part" in your 52 referred to the wagon "blowing up so quickly" in Skybird's 51. Ignore my comment about feeling buddied, then.

[Vedith]

Diego is aggressively inviting people to vote him. Most of the time when I see that, it's town. Him assuming Skybird is 'buddying' was a bit off, but I think that's more likely town because I doubt scum would suggest someone is buddying them so early in the game off of such scant evidence. It's more likely that that's how he genuinely feels.

Lucky I thought made good points about Klazam and started the Diego wagon. I'm not inclined to believe scum!Lucky jumps off of it so quickly for someone else.

Klazam vote is basically a sheep off of Lucky and I think it's a better wagon than Diego.

Your last sentence is lazy, which fences am I sitting on? There aren't even any real winds blowing yet.

Explain where he is inviting the votes rather than being defensive.
"I doubt scum would suggest someone is buddying them so early in the game" So, this is always your opinion in a game, yes?

Have you played with scum lucky?

My last comment is only "lazy" to you because you have fuck all to counter it with.
Example of fence sitting is saying I am town but could be scum. It's a useless comment which is, you got it, fence sitting.

[Vedith]

You have 0 content. Backup your wish to lynch him please.

Really changed your tune here.