You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[TheWayItEnds]

So, TWIE, any chance of an opinion on DS/reads in general? Because a lurker purge is imminent, and I'm sure you'd like to escape it.

by who?

the scumteam?

the SK?

this feels very much like the emptiest threat ever leveled at me.

[Shiro]

Because you flip scum and people tend to believe that day 1 counterwagon to scum flip is town. Add in that scum was voting for them and voila

[Elyse]

If we're purging lurkers my moneys on the mohis/i am innocent/inte/randomidget crowd

What does that mean?

So you think all of the above could be scum? Why exclude TWIE and PerV?

@TSO
I'd reallllly like your reasons for randomidget town because everything he does screams scum to me. I'll hear you out because I could be conf biasing but I just don't see why he's town.

[Garmr]

@garmr, jumping in here since I think my thoughts may help. Don't like Shiro trying to counter obvious scum yesterday and today. Does that bother you? Jeanne and I are trying to sort out townbeard or scum. :/ either scum planned it or jumped on as the mislynch of last resort.

~Titus

I don't get the vibe that shiro was covering for kling the fact she was trying to enlist people like kling herself would reflect badly on her if she was scum. There is only one reservation that I have with shiro through and that's the fact she's not really contributing that much and acknowledges it yet hasn't tried to change that. That's more of a concern that I can't attribute to any alignment through. Honestly it looks like a last second sort of thing to me as spiflop wagon was the first big counter wagon to kling. I think looking at people who jumped between those two would likely to have at least one scum.

I was completely off about Passionate Storm yesterday. I think I see what they're doing.

VOTE: Dapper Stranger

@Garmr

I wasn't the only CW yesterday. Before me was spiff (though he's dead) and I think Grapes qualifies as one before even that. EE was on the Spiff wagon and mine as well, so that combined with his interaction with Dapper today makes me think he's more likely scum than not.

I agree with this but I personally think EE needs death first before spiff but I don't mind a spiffy lynch.

I mean ds derp but now you mention it it wouldn't make me sad if grapes got lynched.

[grapes]

Because you flip scum and people tend to believe that day 1 counterwagon to scum flip is town. Add in that scum was voting for them and voila

personally, i'd take the for sure towncred of the 'imminent' scum lynch as you put it, over the possibility of giving a buddy slightly more towncred 2 flips later

i don't disagree that klings vote could of been distancing

[grapes]

So you think all of the above could be scum? Why exclude TWIE and PerV?

don't mind twie's posts and he's not really lurking, perv always lurks

[Aneninen]

An Alchemist scumflip would make me feel a lot better about this game. It would confirm Shiro as town, for one thing. If Alchemist doesn't flip scum, that entire counterwagon and Shiro in particular should be looked at with a cold eye.

That makes sense. A pity that wagon isn't happening now.

The townreads on Aneninen, for one person, bother me a little - he's pushing a really poor angle on Gwen here. Anyone who's pushing PS/SG scum right now is scum or bad. I do not think Aneninen is a bad player.

Why Gwen is town?
And I don't think I'm a good player.

Not like there's 19 days left to this phase Mr. please don't rush this because we need to make sure we get it right the first time...

This, somehow gave me bad vibes. What if I'm misreading Dapper and *something* they posted earlier...?

I strongly disagree. Thats a town post.
MOHIS is hard town for me.

Why?

Jeez, TheWayItEnds that just feels odd.

No, he does not. (If he

liked

me, say,

that

would be odd. LOLOLOL!)

these are both town posts too.

Hmmm... maybe.

Sad that nobody is voting Alchemist : (

As soon as someone proves for me why Gwen is town, you can count me in.

Merry Christmas etc.!
Also Shiro vs. alch is probably opposite alignments.

This is a scum post.
"This is town v scum but I'm not sure which is which so we better lynch both!"

^^
That!
I haven't parrotted anything for a while, have I?

Hmmm
You are making a good lot of sense and it would explain my need for one more scum on kling wagon.
Fine

Vote: Dapper

But alchemist needs to die next. Especially if you are wrong about Dapper.
L-1 if I am not mistaken
P.edit
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Strongly disliked.
If Dapper flips scum, Shiro is definitely scum too.

Mod Note - From midnight tonight (UK time. So 7pm Eastern) Everyone is on V/LA until the 27th. There will also be a V/LA to all on the 31st from Midnight (7PM Eastern until the 3rd of Jan.

Mod, how about locking the thread for that time?

Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Yule/or-whatever-you-celebrate-now Everyone!

Christmas.

That one then.
I celebrate Yule, although that takes place a bit earlier.

Dear protective role - I saw your crumb. Nicely done.
I hate to be selfish, but I'd really love to stay alive for tomorrow, so I'm going to request your services for tonight.

^^
Good idea.

[T S O]

So, TWIE, any chance of an opinion on DS/reads in general? Because a lurker purge is imminent, and I'm sure you'd like to escape it.

by who?

the scumteam?

the SK?

this feels very much like the emptiest threat ever leveled at me.

By the town? This isn't an empty threat - almost everyone agrees that there's a lurker on the scumteam, maybe two, and I can't see a single distinguishing factor that would set you aside from that pool. Charisma is lovely, but it doesn't make you town.

@TSO
I'd reallllly like your reasons for randomidget town because everything he does screams scum to me. I'll hear you out because I could be conf biasing but I just don't see why he's town.

So, his play and votes in general suck, but that's not really indicative. I thought that the way he attacked Klingon for voting Alch was pretty town. That's a rather flimsy reason, and it's the only one I have, but I didn't think the manner in which he did it was something that he'd do as scum.

i don't disagree that klings vote could of been distancing

I am fairly sure it was.

Hmmm
You are making a good lot of sense and it would explain my need for one more scum on kling wagon.
Fine

Vote: Dapper

But alchemist needs to die next. Especially if you are wrong about Dapper.
L-1 if I am not mistaken
P.edit
Love you two grapes. But I feel obliged to ask. Why is that?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Strongly disliked.
If Dapper flips scum, Shiro is definitely scum too.

So, you think that both Shiro and Alchemist are scum? They're not.

Merry Christmas/Hanukkah/Yule/or-whatever-you-celebrate-now Everyone!

Christmas.

That one then.
I celebrate Yule, although that takes place a bit earlier.

Are you a pagan?

Dear protective role - I saw your crumb. Nicely done.
I hate to be selfish, but I'd really love to stay alive for tomorrow, so I'm going to request your services for tonight.

^^
Good idea.

I agree completely.

[Dapper Stranger]

You know that everyone has settled into their stances by now, and the only thing needed now to progress the game is a flip. Delay simply causes apathy.

I advertised caution because I needed to get my reads in order. And I have. I've vomited a huge amount of content into the thread in the last day or so, and I've caught up to where I want to be.

No. This is scum eager for a mislynch. TSO famously drags the lynch out as town. This needs to find rope.

[T S O]

lol die

[Dapper Stranger]

dapper, what are your thoughts on grapes? Sorry if you've already answered this.

I would t save him if he were being lynched. I just don't personally have scum vibes there.

[Dapper Stranger]

If you're scum, I'm sorry, but you must realise how textbook-scum your play on d1 was.

And since when is a man EVER textbook?

[Passionate Storm]

@aneninen,

I am going to explain why Gwen is town. This is practically the only time I have said this in the history of mafia scum. You'll have to come in close. Closer. Even closer. Good. Close enough where I am practically nibbling on your ear.

BECAUSE I SAID SO!

Good reason, don't you think?

Merry Christmas.

[Passionate Storm]

If you're scum, I'm sorry, but you must realise how textbook-scum your play on d1 was.

And since when is a man EVER textbook?

A Girl is gonna troll the man. Because a Girl is far superior. A Girl decrees that a Man is a textbook.

[Passionate Storm]

If you're scum, I'm sorry, but you must realise how textbook-scum your play on d1 was.

And since when is a man EVER textbook?

A Girl is gonna troll the man. Because a Girl is far superior. A Girl decrees that a Man is a textbook.

Wow. A girl has learned to troll much more effectively and in fewer posts. The Roman is impressed.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Scum is this
Titus
Gwen
Sorry EE, but you too. I even pointed this out to TSO with the scum buddying scum thing. You and Titus were all over each other like a horny married couple and you'd just gotten home from a 2 year deployment. Then I pointed it out and you guys were at each other's throats again.
Varsoon isn't right
Neither is TWIE
And I disagree with you on Grmr as well. He's not playing like Grmr.

That's where I'm at. You should ask Fresh where he stands.

this analogy actually reminds me what my old account was. I thought randomidget looked familiar.

@randomidget Hi! This is entre from wayyy back I think maybe this spring. You played your first (I think it was your first) game on this site with me and moonlight. You didn't have an avatar when we played together though. I remember this because I specifically remember moonlight telling you to get one.

But back into this game: remember how people made fun of me and moon for always being on the same page? Called us lovers and stuff. I'll find the game if I can. That was a good game.

Anyways, dappers analogy made me remember this. So I wanted to point that out and say Hi!

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Also back on topic: this day has gone into the trash can. I'm almost certain people are completely wrong in scumreading dapper and myself, which makes me think that many entire sets of reads may need to be completely recycled.

The question is, Dapper, do you want to do this the easy way and you get lynched or the hard way where we fight it out until the end and maybe lynch actual scum today? What do you think?

[T S O]

Please. You fought the Klingon wagon because your gameview is wrong. What you're doing today is accepting that you were wrong on Klingon, but not attempting to alter the gameview that brought you to that faulty conclusion.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Oh! I found it: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=38643

That's why I couldn't remember my username. I went by a different one when I made my mafiascum account. I was actually tr1ckster.

For people who are curious, yes, I pulled a gambit in this one too, although again my self analysis of said gambit was shit. So perhaps it is this game as well. But I think this is proof that I try pretty crazy stuff for anyone wondering.

I wonder if moon is still around

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Tso being wrong once doesn't make you always wrong. We can discuss more later if you'd like. But after the game. For now you're on the naughty list because dapper is a shot lynch today

[Passionate Storm]

Oh! I found it: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=38643

That's why I couldn't remember my username. I went by a different one when I made my mafiascum account. I was actually tr1ckster.

For people who are curious, yes, I pulled a gambit in this one too, although again my self analysis of said gambit was shit. So perhaps it is this game as well. But I think this is proof that I try pretty crazy stuff for anyone wondering.

I wonder if moon is still around

I will humor you but only because it will likely give information about the scums.

What gambit did you pull? What were the results?

~Titus

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Crap. That wasn't spring of this year. A lot of time has gone by. I've lost track.

[T S O]

How many times are you going to have to be wrong before your ego stops keeping you from playing with town?

[T S O]

Maybe you're scum, maybe you're not. I'm not exactly sure. But so far you appear to be doing your best to play with scum.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

That's a silly excuse to try to talk to me, Titus. How about: hey I think maybe I might be wrong let's talk because I'm having second thoughts on my shifty read of dapper.

But it's been a long time. years, apparently. Let me reread it again and I'll tell you in a bit.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

I'm not the one with the ego here, tso.