You could be Anyone IV - GAME OVER

[Passionate Storm]

@Aneninen, You should read the wiki on hider. They are untargetable by night actions. Instead, they get killed if scum murder the person they hide behind.

[Aunt Jemina]

The serial killer also had no kill last night. Grapes was a vig shot.

While I would certainly

hope

that we stopped a serial killer, my personal theory is that we have an odd-night serial killer.

I would be voting for Alchy, but I believe it would be the hammer, and there is much to discuss today.

If we're controlling a night shot - grapes was a great shot. He wasn't scum, but he was definitely going to be lynched soon. Cutting down on lurkers is a great plan - shooting in {inte, IAI, TWIE} is the best shot you can take.

I feel inty/Inny has at least one sour player in it, perhaps two.

I do not think Endy is mafia, but he is possible for being a serial killer.

Then PerV for his sole vote countering the person who started Klingon train.

It is important for you to realize Grinny and I have a tradition in games. Ever since the first YCBA was a scum win, he has voted me every game. Thus, were Grinny sour, it would not be for this. (I do not believe he is.)

[Aneninen]

Yes, my sensitivity to the Force is no different from what you are familiar with, Anen.
I do feel some hesitance within myself; Alchemist is quickly gaining the ire of many on the council.
That said, perhaps this is just judgment meted to those who have it coming.

No, no, I think he's scum, I just don't want to end the Day yet.

@Aneninen, You should read the wiki on hider. They are untargetable by night actions. Instead, they get killed if scum murder the person they hide behind.

How do we know she was hiding behind Alchemist?

While I would certainly hope that we stopped a serial killer, my personal theory is that we have an odd-night serial killer.

...because?

I would be voting for Alchy, but I believe it would be the hammer, and there is much to discuss today.

Sweet.

[Shiro]

I'm willing to vote for Alchemist, but there are already 7 votes on him. If I did so, he'd be at L–1, and anyone could quickhammer him before we've talked everything out

Spoiler:

You wanna be the very best?
Like no-one ever was?
To vote him is your real test
To lynch him is our cause.

You can travel across this game
Searching every page
I guarantee you'll never find
A targer who's that fiiine.

Alchemist
Got to lynch him
It you and me
You know it's our destiny

Alchemist

Ooooooooooooooooh
He is the foe, in this town we must defend

Gotta lynch him
Oh don't have doubts
Show courage and pull this through
Yiu.teach me and I teach you
Lynch him.noooow

Gotta lynch him now
Gotta lynch noooooow yeah yea yeah

Alchemist

[Aneninen]

LMAO, Shiro!

But check my 2652 too. The first part.

[TheWayItEnds]

If we're controlling a night shot - grapes was a great shot. He wasn't scum, but he was definitely going to be lynched soon. Cutting down on lurkers is a great plan - shooting in {inte, IAI, TWIE} is the best shot you can take.

I feel inty/Inny has at least one sour player in it, perhaps two.

I do not think Endy is mafia, but he is possible for being a serial killer.

im a little hurt tbh.

how obviously town do i have to be?

[Randomnamechange]

We know she hid behind Alchemist because passionate storm was part of the team that shot him.
VOTE: passionate storm

[Shiro]

We know she hid behind Alchemist because passionate storm was part of the team that shot him.
VOTE: passionate storm

Let's see how well this will work out

[I Am Innocent]

I should start being more active now, my apologies all. Real life issues + holiday really left no time for either of my games.

I still have a ton of D1 to read, and a little of D2, but this is where I am at.

1) an ISO of SG shows PS is town/was her N1 target. Not a fan of EE and RM posts toward PS today.

2) can't find where in that ISO where her crumb was of a N2 target, as she obv hid behind grapes or scum. Do people think it is alch, hence the quick wagon?

3) I stand by my earlier ISO of alch, still don't see the scum motivation there, and that does seem like the counterwagon to Klingons end of D1, no?

I will prob ISO EP next as i had some early game scum vibes from him.

[T S O]

randomidget - here's something that I think will help you out.

[T S O]

Either Alchemist is scum, or SG hid behind grapes, who the vig shot. I believe the former to be far more likely than the latter, ergo Alchemist is the obvious choice.

[T S O]

Anen - why did you lie? It served no purpose, allowed you to fluff around instead of playing for an entire day, and just all-around obfuscated any attempts to sort you.

[I Am Innocent]

@SG, maybe we can reread alchemist tonight? Neither of my heads feels good about him, but at the same time too many obvious scum to work with Shiro.

Alch is not a priority for tonight.

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Lol.

EE is mod confirmed scum too nice.

Nobody is MOD confirmed until they flip. If you're town you need to stop putting shit like this in the thread. The only MOD CONFIRMED are Klingon, Spifflop and itlepip. That's it. You put shit like this out there, deep come along and think there's a mod confirmed guilty on the lead wagon, and then jump on blindly...

Hmm...

You know what

VOTE: Passionate Storm

This post sucks. Essentially it can be used as a justification to keep everyone open.

So,this one is in favor of conf bias. Check.

It's nice to know you didn't deny it.

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@Anen: Why do you think scum would shoot a 1-shot that had already used their shot?
What do you think of Stranger questioning the mod during the night about your role and whether you confirmed me?

Wait-oh, what makes you think that I'm 1–Shot and I used my Shot last Night? Curiosity kills the cat, I know, but Kitty kills the Spider first. ^_^
As for the other question, there are plenty of possibilities. And I think you wouldn't ask questions like that if Dapper weren't wagoned now.

You presented the Clotide gambit as only working once. A 1-shot. Why do you think scum would try to kill you after using that one shot? As for Dapper, think about the motivation there. There was no reason for them to ask the mod about your role if they were town. First, what town doesn't like conf. town? You can see this thought process in even their most recent posts where they are trying to shoot down the whole concept. That's not a town thought process. Second, if they were town why would they think the mod would even answer them? Town would know that wouldn't happen. They'd take their skepticism into the next day. Asking the mod about a role that powerful points to butthurt scum.

Tso what about the beginning of this post?

[T S O]

I saw it, but took it to mean that PS shouldn't waste her time re-reading Alchemist, rather than that Alchemist wouldn't be targeted.

It's possible to interpret that post in different ways, since it isn't the most clear-cut.

[Randomnamechange]

randomidget - here's something that I think will help you out.

Go fuck yourself.
PD didn't say it was more likely, she said that is what happened. She can't know unless she took the shot. Also it is possible Gwen didn't use her ability. And it is perfectly possible she hid behind a target who she hoped would be ignored but was vig-killed.

[Passionate Storm]

I saw it, but took it to mean that PS shouldn't waste her time re-reading Alchemist, rather than that Alchemist wouldn't be targeted.

It's possible to interpret that post in different ways, since it isn't the most clear-cut.

It was our way of discussing who would be copped. We can't pretend to be cop without results well. My "reread" would look like asking SG who to cop while I would know what she was doing.

Either Alchemist is scum or scum shot and healed him. Mafia death confirms this.

[Passionate Storm]

randomidget - here's something that I think will help you out.

Go fuck yourself.
PD didn't say it was more likely, she said that is what happened. She can't know unless she took the shot. Also it is possible Gwen didn't use her ability. And it is perfectly possible she hid behind a target who she hoped would be ignored but was vig-killed.

Vig kill is impossible. Flavor doesn't match.

The odds of SG missing their action are abysmal.

Mafia killed flavor reveals the mafia was involved in her death.

[Passionate Storm]

I should start being more active now, my apologies all. Real life issues + holiday really left no time for either of my games.

I still have a ton of D1 to read, and a little of D2, but this is where I am at.

1) an ISO of SG shows PS is town/was her N1 target. Not a fan of EE and RM posts toward PS today.

2) can't find where in that ISO where her crumb was of a N2 target, as she obv hid behind grapes or scum. Do people think it is alch, hence the quick wagon?

3) I stand by my earlier ISO of alch, still don't see the scum motivation there, and that does seem like the counterwagon to Klingons end of D1, no?

I will prob ISO EP next as i had some early game scum vibes from him.

Look at me and SG talking about rereads. I almost never reread. There's your crumb.

[Randomnamechange]

Fair enough on the flavour. I don't get why she would hide behind alch though.

[Passionate Storm]

Because Shiro suspected him since Day 1 and people kept obvscumming or "Slayer's Gambit" so she never got the lynch she wanted. I pushed for it pretty hard.

[Passionate Storm]

There is a distinct possibility that scum saw SG crumbs as well and shot Alchemist. Alch lived because SK and thus only Gwen died.

[I Am Innocent]

I should start being more active now, my apologies all. Real life issues + holiday really left no time for either of my games.

I still have a ton of D1 to read, and a little of D2, but this is where I am at.

1) an ISO of SG shows PS is town/was her N1 target. Not a fan of EE and RM posts toward PS today.

2) can't find where in that ISO where her crumb was of a N2 target, as she obv hid behind grapes or scum. Do people think it is alch, hence the quick wagon?

3) I stand by my earlier ISO of alch, still don't see the scum motivation there, and that does seem like the counterwagon to Klingons end of D1, no?

I will prob ISO EP next as i had some early game scum vibes from him.

Look at me and SG talking about rereads. I almost never reread. There's your crumb.

Can you give me the one post that says alch will be her target or who was in the list of targets? Her crumb of you D1 was pretty obvious. Maybe I'm losing something since I've been working mostly in Iso's and not full conversations.

It does make me feel better that you are convinced alch was the target.

[Passionate Storm]

2514 and her last post. The "see things I can't" is an allusion to my wifoming cop. She lives and I have my "cop result" as town on Alch.

[Aneninen]

We know she hid behind Alchemist because passionate storm was part of the team that shot him.
VOTE: passionate storm

Spoiler:

POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP!

Anen - why did you lie? It served no purpose, allowed you to fluff around instead of playing for an entire day, and just all-around obfuscated any attempts to sort you.

It's had a goal.
I saw Varsoon and ...someone else doing something on Day1, so I decided to draw the attention to myself. Partly because of absorbing a possible Nightkill or two, partly because of examining others' reactions.
The PR for Clotilde came later. Originally, I wanted to throw it in earlier, but because of IRL things it was too late for my original plan. Yet again, I wanted to examine all the reactions to it. But still, I pulled out quite a couple of reactions. The most important three were Shiro (who I think is town), Alchemist (who I think is scum), and obviously, SpiderGwen (whom I was wrong about for a long time, sorry).
On Day2, I thought Dapper might be a Doc, because of something he'd posted, but a later post from him made me doubt that. Again, I was too slow. By the time I realized the whole Passionate-Gwen thing the Day had been practically over. (Also, I think I realized something else too, but I don't want to talk about it yet. It's a *someone* must be a *certain town-PR* thing.)

Now, on Day3, I really, really want to know Varsoon's results.

For this Day, let's say something surprising. How about this: Kitty Pryde, Vanilla Townie? Is it true? Is it fake? Is it partly true? ^_^

(By the way, I think that Clotilde-izer idea could be a funny town-PR if it existed...)

PD didn't say it was more likely, she said that is what happened. She can't know unless she took the shot.

Also it is possible Gwen didn't use her ability. And it is perfectly possible she hid behind a target who she hoped would be ignored but was vig-killed.

The underlined part is fake and scummy speculation.

[Shiro]

@Random

She flat out said don't waste a doc on me if that isn't hinting at her using her power then I don't know what is