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Post Post #2875 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:08 am

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We lynched scum d1, then suffered two consecutive mislynches. Your slot hardlurked the entire game and has provided zero content. You could really do with redeeming it.
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Post Post #2876 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:08 am

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Passionate Storm, the Titus hydra, is conftown.
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Post Post #2877 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:12 am

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Alright kind of decent for a point of start here. I will start re-reading this as soon as possible (I find it ironic that I am asked to redeem a slot but since my slot had its share of hardlurking which i should be doing then I guess I am give it my all i guess. :>)

Anything in particular you want my non biased opinion before i start reading up?
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Post Post #2878 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:14 am

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Jason: three questions for you. I'll understand if you can't answer them, but I don't think that any of them are questions you can't answer.

1. Hypothetically, if there existed a scumteam and a Serial Killer, and both have unique kill flavours, and they both successfully shot the same person during the same night, would one kill flavour supersede the other, or would they both be displayed (eg. player x was killed and left in a pool of blood), or would there be another scenario?

2. Hypothetically, if a Hider hid behind a player who was scum, what would the Hider's kill flavour be?

3. Hypothetically, if a Hider hid behind a town player who was killed, would the Hider's kill flavour be identical to the killed town player?

Thank you.
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Post Post #2879 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:15 am

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Yes, ZZZX. There's one question.

If you were a Hider, and you were trying to play optimally, would you hide behind the person you thought was most likely to be scum, even if you hadn't crumbed it?
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Post Post #2880 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:16 am

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I don't expect you to read 116 pages - it's unfair and also unproductive. You're likely to be better served ISO'ing a few players and going from there.
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Post Post #2881 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:17 am

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Why is Passionate Storm conftown?
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Post Post #2882 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:58 am

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T S O wrote:Yes, ZZZX. There's one question.

If you were a Hider, and you were trying to play optimally, would you hide behind the person you thought was most likely to be scum, even if you hadn't crumbed it?

without crumbling?

Let me tell you i did that once at my really early newbie days

and i assume its the reason for the only blacklist i have on this site to date

so the answer is


No
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Post Post #2883 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:01 am

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like there is only risk and really low gain out of it.

if you were correct u survive

otherwise you pretty much give scum a free kill

I dont see any reason not to crumble. there are 0 dangers and only benefits if you crumble.
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Post Post #2884 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:26 am

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T S O wrote:
Jason: three questions for you. I'll understand if you can't answer them, but I don't think that any of them are questions you can't answer.

1. Hypothetically, if there existed a scumteam and a Serial Killer, and both have unique kill flavours, and they both successfully shot the same person during the same night, would one kill flavour supersede the other, or would they both be displayed (eg. player x was killed and left in a pool of blood), or would there be another scenario?

2. Hypothetically, if a Hider hid behind a player who was scum, what would the Hider's kill flavour be?

3. Hypothetically, if a Hider hid behind a town player who was killed, would the Hider's kill flavour be identical to the killed town player?

Thank you.


1. Kill Flavor would be 'Killed my multiple causes' as per Doctor Who - The last Great time war

2. Kill flavor would simply be 'died' as per YCBA 3

3. Yes. I believe so, that is how I would have flipped it.

Sorry for the delay in responding. Was trying to find the source links.

Last note - I will NEVER mod kill anyone for inactivity unless it is advertised as BAM ruleset I will always replace, unless it holds the game up in a night phase in an extreme manner (never happened) And as per rule 25, please don't ask for modkills.
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Post Post #2885 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:40 am

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Thank you, Jason.
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Post Post #2886 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:41 am

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Alright, so Jason has clarified a few things. We now know that Gwen hid behind scum.
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Post Post #2887 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:02 am

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Uh.

Thats not at all what Jason just said.
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Post Post #2888 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:02 am

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We know that Gwen was roleblocked and killed is what we know.
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Post Post #2889 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:03 am

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TheWayItEnds wrote:We know that Gwen was roleblocked and killed is what we know.

You can't role block a hider........
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Post Post #2890 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:05 am

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...why not?
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Post Post #2891 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:06 am

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She was either roleblocked or chose not to hide.

Do you think the latter is what happened?
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Post Post #2892 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:07 am

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Gwen played extremely aggressive with the Hider role. She targeted PS, who she was hard-scumreading, n1. So it seems likely that she played just as aggressively the night she died.
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Post Post #2893 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:08 am

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Hiders can't be targeted by Roleblockers, it says it here. Paragraph three.
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Post Post #2894 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:09 am

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So Gwen targeted someone she was scumreading. I wonder who sees where I'm going with this.
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Post Post #2895 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:13 am

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gwen did not die from hiding behind scum.
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Post Post #2896 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:14 am

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Jason

If a hider hid behind a person who was targeted for the night kill and the person she hid behind was doc protected, what would happen to the hider?
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Post Post #2897 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:21 am

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Have you been thinking this since she died, TWIE?
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Post Post #2898 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:23 am

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no, i thought she was RBed and killed.
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Post Post #2899 (ISO) » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:25 am

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Did you never consider the Occam's Razor solution of her hiding behind scum and dying, at all?
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