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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:29 am

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We aren't playing in the Newbie queues any longer, gents. If you play like shit, you're going to get called out.
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:30 am

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Titus - it really is time for you to step up. Throwing a lazy vote on PV isn't doing that. PV is so dozy that it's not even a scumtell, it's a complete null tell.
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:31 am

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Spoiler: VC's for me
jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(8):
Aunt Jemina
,
Aneninen
,
Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse
,
Garmr
, Varsoon
Spifflop
(5): grapes, Dapper Stranger
, Extrapolated Eagle, randomidget,
PeregrineV

Passionate Storm
(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21

Extrapolated Eagle
(1):
T S O

Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
itlepip
(1):
Klingoncelt


Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.


jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(12):
Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse
,
Garmr
,
T S O, Aunt Jemina, Spider Gwen
, Errantparabola, randomidget,
Dapper Stranger
, Varsoon
Alchemist21
(5): Shiro, Extrapolated Eagle,
Klingoncelt
,
Aneninen
,
grapes

Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm
(1):
Alchemist21

Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
Spifflop
(1):
PeregrineV


Not Voting
(2): inte, TheWayItEnds

With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.


jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Dapper Stranger
(11):
Spider Gwen, Elyse, Passionate Storm
, Errantparabola,
Alchemist21
, My Other Head Is Scum,
Aunt Jemina
, Varsoon,
T S O
, Shiro, TheWayItEnds,
Passionate Storm
(1):
Dapper Stranger

Errantparabola
(1):
PeregrineV

Elyse
(1):
Garmr

Shiro
(1): randomidget
Spider Gwen
(1):
Aneninen

Alchemist21
:
(1) Extrapolated Eagle

Not Voting
(3): I Am Innocent, inte,
grapes


With 20 alive, it took 11 to lynch.


jasonT1981 wrote:
Official Vote Count


Alchemist21
(9):
T S O
, Varsoon,
Passionate Storm
, Extrapolated Eagle,
Elyse
, Shiro,
Garmr
,
PeregrineV
, My Other Head Is Scum
Passionate Storm
(1): randomidget

Not Voting
(7): I Am Innocent, inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola,
Alchemist21
,
Aneninen
,
Aunt Jemina


With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:32 am

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I've had those lying around for ages, but I'm sick of keeping them on my tabs. Garmr's in blue because he was only a provisional townread at the time.
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:33 am

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I have been waiting and waiting and not calling Varsoon town so he'd answer that question with a little bit of worry, but since he's not going to do that, my hand is forced into townreading him by default.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:34 am

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MOHIS - side project for you if you feel like redeeming yourself. Assume you're me. Out of you, inte and I Am Innocent, how do I tell which one of you is scum?
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:35 am

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I have been thinking that one of Eagle and random is scum for ages due to that first VC, but wanted to sort some more reads before I went through with that theory.
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:36 am

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I'm sure that even you, Eagle, won't deny that if the first 8 votes on that Klingon wagon are all town, then at least one scum is on the counterwagon, no?
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:39 am

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Assuming I'm right so far, then all the remaining scum lies within {Errantparabola/Extrapolated Eagle/randomidget/Shiro/inte/I Am Innocent/My Other Head Is Scum} I can find fairly legitimate reasons to scumread anyone in that list - the last three for being useless lurksacks, the other 4 for more varied reasons.
"i have the sickest grossest feeling that even if it's my lynch today, my townflip still won't lead to a tso lynch, and then he'll find some bullshit way to reason either shooting or lynching gm tomorrow because if there's anyone who can strongarm a mislynch despite his reads or cases being proved wrong time and again it's tso"
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:41 am

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Though, happily, there are some things we can ascertain from that list. Multiple people are cleared by the scumflips of others - I can't remember them off the top of my head, but suffice to say they exist.
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:41 am

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[quote=TSO]Read the game. Try that. Try reading a single page of this game. This event not only happened ages ago, which I hoped you might have read, but was actually discussed very very recently, for a long period of time. Not only have you not read events in the past, you haven't even read events in the present. So, please. Read the game. Go do that.
[/quote]
No, just to spite you.

[quote=TSO]Right on Klingon, pip, Elyse, AJ, SG, PS, Spifflop. Wrong on DS/Alch/grapes. That's a 70% correct rate. That's poor for me. That's not globally poor. I am not sure you have ever had a 70% correct rate as town, for example. I don't really care enough to check.

I am trying to refrain from insulting you here, but it's oh-so-difficult to do when you test my patience with stupid posts like this.
[/quote]
I call complete bullshit on this.

Where are you getting your numbers? Reads are not static things.
Unless you lock in your D1 reads whenever you make them, and you actually do have 70% rate (which I doubt) its bullshit.
[quote=TSO]
I'd rather ask TWIE what the hell he's smoking by having a hard townread on you. Can you suggest why he has that read? I've read your ISO countless times, and I still can't. He has yet to explain it. So the most obvious explanation is the one above.

If you have a good reason for someone to townread you that's not complete and utter rubbish, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, go back to lurking.[/f
Players make guesses all game, you commit Sharpshooter fallacy when you think you are more right about your reads and ignore the ones where you were wrong.

No way you have 70% correct rate. Thats complete BS.
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You're fucking useless lurkers. Call yourself what you are. You've had zero useful imput the entire game. Your slot's sole action was to quickhammer town. You didn't help at all d1 when we were busy pushing Klingon, and since then I have forgotten on occasion that you were playing the game.

The only thing that disgusts me more than lurkers is lurkers who don't even fucking admit what they are.
[/quote]
Yeah, I haven't been the most active in this game. I don't think I have ever said I was a beacon for activity. Can you point to somewhere I said I was very active?

What does me admitting I am lurking do for you exactly? Make your read on me more valid?

[quote=TSO]
I'd rather ask TWIE what the hell he's smoking by having a hard townread on you. Can you suggest why he has that read? I've read your ISO countless times, and I still can't. He has yet to explain it. So the most obvious explanation is the one above.

If you have a good reason for someone to townread you that's not complete and utter rubbish, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, go back to lurking.[/quote]
I already questioned him earlier on his town read on me, I don't get it that strongly, its a gut read. I have let it slide. I know I am town, I am still wondering if he is just white knighting me (I hate that phrase) or if he is town and genuinely has a read on me.
Can't answer that at the moment.

[quote=TSO]
Given that I am likely the foremost player you should have a read on, a null read just further proves you aren't reading the game.
I worry that your random read is a waste of time, but I'm prepared to hear it out.[/quote]
Why should I have a solid read on you exactly? I can see both scum and town motivation in some of your posts. I am undecided.
Why should I strong either way?
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:42 am

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I am not going to even bother fixing that.
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:42 am

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Don't, I didn't bother reading it either.
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:43 am

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T S O wrote:Assuming I'm right so far, then all the remaining scum lies within {Errantparabola/Extrapolated Eagle/randomidget/Shiro/inte/I Am Innocent/My Other Head Is Scum} I can find fairly legitimate reasons to scumread anyone in that list - the last three for being useless lurksacks, the other 4 for more varied reasons.

See its posts like this that reads to me as scum.
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:43 am

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T S O wrote:Don't, I didn't bother reading it either.

Hypocrite.
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:45 am

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My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
T S O wrote:Assuming I'm right so far, then all the remaining scum lies within {Errantparabola/Extrapolated Eagle/randomidget/Shiro/inte/I Am Innocent/My Other Head Is Scum} I can find fairly legitimate reasons to scumread anyone in that list - the last three for being useless lurksacks, the other 4 for more varied reasons.

See its posts like this that reads to me as scum.


Wasn't I in your null list? Damn, I need to work on my scumgame. Posting lists of who I think is scum always gets me.

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T S O wrote:Don't, I didn't bother reading it either.

Hypocrite.


Ah yes, I didn't read your little post that's probably half being useless and half calling me bad because I called you bad, and this somehow equates to you not reading
the entire game.
What a hypocrite I am.
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:46 am

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T S O wrote:Wasn't I in your null list? Damn, I need to work on my scumgame. Posting lists of who I think is scum always gets me.

Do you know what null means?
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:47 am

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T S O wrote:Ah yes, I didn't read your little post that's probably half being useless and half calling me bad because I called you bad, and this somehow equates to you not reading the entire game. What a hypocrite I am.

Way to move the goal post.
You realize the defenses you are doing to defend your cognitive dissonance?

You can't tell someone to read, then not read and not be called out on that shit.
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:47 am

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If I seem hostile, which I really should, it's probably that I have put a lot of time into this game, and you haven't. You really don't care at all. Your lack of care actually impairs me from solving the game, because I am forced to make the impossible guess between you being lurking scum and you being lurking useless town who doesn't give a fuck whether we win or lose.
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:48 am

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My Other Head Is Scum wrote:
TSO wrote:Read the game. Try that. Try reading a single page of this game. This event not only happened ages ago, which I hoped you might have read, but was actually discussed very very recently, for a long period of time. Not only have you not read events in the past, you haven't even read events in the present. So, please. Read the game. Go do that.

No, just to spite you.

TSO wrote:Right on Klingon, pip, Elyse, AJ, SG, PS, Spifflop. Wrong on DS/Alch/grapes. That's a 70% correct rate. That's poor for me. That's not globally poor. I am not sure you have ever had a 70% correct rate as town, for example. I don't really care enough to check.

I am trying to refrain from insulting you here, but it's oh-so-difficult to do when you test my patience with stupid posts like this.

I call complete bullshit on this.

Where are you getting your numbers? Reads are not static things.
Unless you lock in your D1 reads whenever you make them, and you actually do have 70% rate (which I doubt) its bullshit.
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I'd rather ask TWIE what the hell he's smoking by having a hard townread on you. Can you suggest why he has that read? I've read your ISO countless times, and I still can't. He has yet to explain it. So the most obvious explanation is the one above.

If you have a good reason for someone to townread you that's not complete and utter rubbish, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, go back to lurking.

Players make guesses all game, you commit Sharpshooter fallacy when you think you are more right about your reads and ignore the ones where you were wrong.

No way you have 70% correct rate. Thats complete BS.
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You're fucking useless lurkers. Call yourself what you are. You've had zero useful imput the entire game. Your slot's sole action was to quickhammer town. You didn't help at all d1 when we were busy pushing Klingon, and since then I have forgotten on occasion that you were playing the game.

The only thing that disgusts me more than lurkers is lurkers who don't even fucking admit what they are.

Yeah, I haven't been the most active in this game. I don't think I have ever said I was a beacon for activity. Can you point to somewhere I said I was very active?

What does me admitting I am lurking do for you exactly? Make your read on me more valid?

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I'd rather ask TWIE what the hell he's smoking by having a hard townread on you. Can you suggest why he has that read? I've read your ISO countless times, and I still can't. He has yet to explain it. So the most obvious explanation is the one above.

If you have a good reason for someone to townread you that's not complete and utter rubbish, go ahead and say it. Otherwise, go back to lurking.

I already questioned him earlier on his town read on me, I don't get it that strongly, its a gut read. I have let it slide. I know I am town, I am still wondering if he is just white knighting me (I hate that phrase) or if he is town and genuinely has a read on me.
Can't answer that at the moment.

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Given that I am likely the foremost player you should have a read on, a null read just further proves you aren't reading the game.
I worry that your random read is a waste of time, but I'm prepared to hear it out.

Why should I have a solid read on you exactly? I can see both scum and town motivation in some of your posts. I am undecided.
Why should I strong either way?


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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:49 am

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Wait, are you suggesting that it's unfair for me to tell you to read because I didn't read one post? Fucking please. Don't insult yourself by continuing that line of argument.
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:49 am

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My Other Head Is Scum wrote:You can't tell someone to read, then not read and not be called out on that shit.


This is bs.

You are comparing one post not read out of spite to you not reading the fucking game at all

P.edit

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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:52 am

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I'm not going to argue with you about my reads being correct or not, I don't care. It really makes no difference to me whether you think I was scumreading people like AJ/Elyse/PS or not. If you want, I'll debate it with you postgame, but it's just a waste of time right now.

PEdit: Unlucky, Shiro.
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:53 am

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I think this is a big weakness of my towngame - I tend to alienate people from helping me because I get annoyed at them for not playing the way I feel they should.
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:54 am

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Its really not Shiro, but it doesn't matter.
I don't agree with most people in this game.
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