NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Shiro]

I gave my reads mate.

From there on if you want to lynch me I just hope to god that I am wrong and it is not what I said.

In the case that I die and the game does not end then lynch one of Fire/pisskop tommrow.



Good luck, peace out

[pignash]

Hrrmmm. My problem is o think lynching PK might not be safe. Could be an Espe Shiro x second scum team. Am I crazy?

[pignash]

No that team hammers pk anyway. Damnit fine.

VOTE: pisskop

I screw us?

[Shiro]

Nope. At least from my side, I am still town cop.

[pisskop]

im town.

You guys win for me, okay?

[pignash]

:/

[Shiro]

im town.

You guys win for me, okay?

Seriosuly if you are town, who is it ? Is it sk ?

I am really not mafia :/

[Shiro]

Like it makes no bloody sense, Who is rbing if there is a sk.

[Drixx]

My ordering is something like this, in case I'm dead tomorrow:

Firebringer
Pignash

I just had a thought. Were you blocked two nights ago shiro?

[Shiro]

I am blocked from th moment I outed my guilty on davsto

[Drixx]

My theory was that perhaps Pignash is not what he claimed but instead he could maybe be a role blocker who if he blocks someone vanilla gives them a shot of roleblock instead (would be an interesting mechanic and make a full time roleblocker less overtly powerful). He thought I wasn't vanilla when he targeted me, as evidenced by his confusion over the murderous donuts earlier in the game.

Theory doesn't work though as he obviously can't have targeted both of us.

If Shiro is being honest about the claim, then there's only a couple possibilities:

1.) Multiball with the 2nd scum team being smaller but having a full time rolblocker who has camped on Shiro
2.) An SK who instead of being given something more usual for an SK to get instead was given the ability to roleblock.

I can think of nothing else that makes sense with what we know and have to work with.

[pignash]

No I thought you were vanilla. I just forgot what you'd gotten.

[Firebringer]

In the case that I die and the game does not end then lynch one of Fire/pisskop tommrow.

I can't believe Shiro is both being cute and calling me scum.

Really hard for me to scumread you when you are like this ;(

[Fro99er]

(expired on 2016-01-28 22:00:00)

(Sat Jan 28 @ 10:00:00 PM ET)

VOTECOUNT 6.08

• (0)
  Espeonage
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (0)
  pignash
  —
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (4)
  pisskop
  — Drixx, Shiro, Elyse, pignash
  (3)
  Shiro
  — pisskop, Firebringer, Espeonage
  (0)
  Elyse
  —
  

(0)

[NOT VOTING]

—

With

7

alive

, it took

4

votes

to lynch.

[Fro99er]

Stuff edited in later.

Pisskop Died. He was a...

Spoiler: Flip

Christiana Mafia Roleblocker

It is now Night 6. Please submit any night actions to me via PM. Day 7 will start in (expired on 2016-01-23 20:00:00).

Additionally, if you PM me that you would like N6 shortened, I will gladly shorten the night phase.

I must receive a message from everyone to shorten night phase. Night phase will be shortened after all actions have been submitted and a message received from every player.

[/color]

[Plotinus]

I'm not sure where Fro99er is but I know who died last night. He can edit flavour into this post later. A body has been found and it was...

Shiro, who was killed at night. He was a...

Spoiler: Flip

Town cop

[Plotinus]

(expired on 2016-02-08 14:00:00)

(Mon Feb 8 @ 2:00:00 PM ET)

VOTECOUNT 7.00

• (0)
  Espeonage
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (0)
  pignash
  —
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  Elyse
  —
  

(5)

[NOT VOTING]

— Espeonage, Drixx, pignash, Firebringer, Elyse

With

5

alive

, it takes

3

votes

to lynch.

It is now Day 7!

[Elyse]

My only question is this:

How did pisskop roleblock Shiro if Drixx roleblocked him.

[Elyse]

*?

[Drixx]

Firstly: Natural Action Resolution

Roleblock is the same priority as Roleblock. But if Pisskop was both roleblocking and the designated killer for what appears to be a 2nd mafia team, I couldn't block both actions. It appears as if the resolution was to let him Roleblock Shiro but my Roleblock stopped the kill. That's the only explanation (apart from mod error) which makes sense.

Thoughts on remaining suspects:

Firebringer - Claimed Vanilla; ISO isn't very impressive. Was on the attempt to mislynch Shiro wagon.
Pignash - A vanilla cop who gives an invention to someone who is vanilla makes sense for balance. Allows for finding PRs but has a risk of giving out inventions.
Espeonage - Gunsmith ability does make sense in multiball.


Could make a case mechanically for all of them. Since Pisskop appears to be from a second team, it makes the most sense to assume we're in LYLO (and were also in LYLO yesTerday and only had a yesTerday because of the kill block). If Pisskop only had one partner, that's a better situation ... but I would suggest we be quite careful and assume that one vote in the wrong place could result in losing.

[Elyse]

Ok yeah that makes sense.

I'll probably vote Firebringer today.

[Drixx]

Been thinking about this from a setup perspective. Pisskop flipped a different "flavor" mafia than the prior scum.

That other team was Goon/Goon/JOAT. Even if we posit the second team as having only two members, the presence of a non limited PR on the team makes it seem like a second member would be highly likely to be a goon. Firebringer is the only one without any ability. Pignash was able to give me a roleblock and Espeonage's claim lines up pretty well with what we observed in the game.

If the team is two members, I'm almost certain it's Firebringer. If there's a third member, Pignash seems more likely than Espeonage. I actually can't really figure out why town would have a Vanilla Cop who gives a 1-shot ability when they find someone without a role. How would that help the town? It's scum who need to find PRs. Having it give a 1-shot ability when targeting a vanilla seems like a decent way to balance it.

So yeah ... Pignash makes sense as a potential balance for a full time roleblocker, and if we're thinking a goon on the team, then Firebringer conveniently already claimed to be VT... (so why hasn't Pignash tried to give him an item to confirm that yet?).

[Drixx]

Pignash: who have you given what to? I'm very surprised you didn't give me something since you knew I used the roleblock and am thus back to being vanilla. I would expect a town you to want to be feeding a cleared town me abilities to use ...

Share your actions please.

[Firebringer]

Why the fuck am I still alive?
God damn bored of this.

[Firebringer]

Ok yeah that makes sense.

I'll probably vote Firebringer today.

Me too