↑ talah wrote: ↑ hiplop wrote: ↑ talah wrote:Well you're wrong on the second. I'm not really sure about Sakura yet.
The "meh" on me seems okayish at this stage but I do tend to try to get a read on her fairly quickly (at least historically) so that could be stalling so she can go either way depending on where I end up.
Also what's with your assertion that Sakura an I don't know each other? Is that the basis of your scumread on me?
We've played a bunch of games together, but only one semi-recently before this.
So you, sir, appear to be trying to reinforce a bad read with bad assumptions.
Bad strawman is bad. It is NOT contigent on you not knowing eachother. Your interactions are awful and she overreacted like sakura does trying to deflect your wagon. That is seriously different than the misrep here. Seriously.
Bad strawman is bad? You're going to need to explain that little doozy to me, since the only real indication of *why* you find me scummy is directly with regard to my association with Sakura.
↑ hiplop wrote: ↑ Scatterplot wrote:So my problem with talah is that talah got in the way of sakura and wisdom. and my problem with you is that you're getting in the way of me and phantom by being impatient and demanding answers NOW NOW NOW when I will explain my reads when i'm ready. I'm not going to lynch anybody based on unexplained reads, I'm not going to derail a wagon with unexplained reads, but i'm not going to explain reads that are still in progress.
YEP! For two people who don't know eachother they sure are talking to eachother INCREDIBLY strangely.
↑ Wisdom wrote:I wouldn't place hiplop so high, but I more or less like your reads.
i FLY HIGH LIKE PAPER GET HIGH LIKE PLANES
(I left the last bit there as an example of the other drivel you're injecting into the thread.)
Aside from that all you'd said was "why so aggressive" and then directly quoted my
Post 15 and said it was scummy. No reasoning.
So rather than explain why your associative tells are rock-solid, you're actually saying that
I'm
talking crap when I address the only reasoning you've provided.
Here's your case:
talah's aggressive
Post 15 is scummy
Sakura and talah's interactions are awkward
They're even MOAR awkward because they don't know each other
Then when I point out that we do in fact know each other...
You're strawmanning, I didn't say my case was about you knowing or not knowing each other!!!1
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You and Ranger both appear to be doing this thing where you cheerlead the talah-scum case, and anyone indicating that I might be scum, but fail to address me or attempt to get a read on me, directly.
You also both fail to do anything else to reinforce your own "cases".
For example:
↑ Ranger wrote:{talah} - for butting in between wisdom and sakura, then sheeping wisdom (like everyone else said)?
If by that, you mean
13/
17, then yes. Nothing I've seen from talah has changed my opinion of how bad that was.
This doesn't say anything about why those two posts are bad, just obliquely refers to them and moves on.
(Interestingly it leaves out post 15 which you yourself took umbrage with.)
However, seven out of eight of Rangers last posts refer to me being scum, and the only development of reasoning is (see below) which is also pretty terrible.
So you two are actually in my scumpile just because of how bad your arguments are.
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↑ Ranger wrote:You? Impact. Me? Impact. Antihero? Impact. Wisdom? Impact. Scatterplot? Impact. Trebuchet? Impact. Mad King Ashnard? Impact. Heck, even PhantomCobalt has had an impact, albeit a negative one. And while Sakura Hana is contestable, to me Sakura has had impact.
Ankamius, KTthecreeper, and talah all have not.
When did "impact" become a thing that only Town are capable of - therefore blanket town-reads are handed out on that basis?
This extremely poor reasoning. Also your latest readslist moving everyone else "up" only appears to serve to work around Mad King's issue with them being in a tier *below* Scatterplot.
What you've in fact done is picked out two others as "scum" and moved them down and then adjusted your townlist to be more palatable for RC - who incidentally I'm now leaning town based on this appeasement.
VOTE: Ranger
Happy to lynch hiplop
Open to lynching Scatterplot