League of Legends (Old)

[Dwlee99]

So it was like a level 2 trade where he then all-in'ed me because my q+w was down.

[RayFrost]

In lane against yasuo, you auto to break shield, and if he engages on you by actually e'ing into you, you just press q because then there's almost no projectile time (cuz range), then you w him, then you have a choice: kite him away from your w point, then w back, or use e if he hasn't wind walled to kite away, while using autos when he's snared to finish the harass.

If you're wanting to be aggressive first, then you've got to do it at level three to make sure you can chain to kite away OR be very fast on your q w w to be back in range of your minions so that he's taking minion damage and you're closer to your tower anyway when he goes for the trade. Choosing to stay in auto range is a mistake. Leblanc's w has almost no time between landing and being able to return, so you should at most take a q in damage if he even manages that. You can also keep in mind that your w hits *in an aoe* so you don't have to w directly at him to deal damage, you can w to the side and hit with the edges of leblanc's aoe to deal the damage which is more likely to avoid the incoming q attempt. Also, don't go in when he has tornado up.

Post-six, you can afford to just q to bait out windwall and then abuse the fact it has a 14 second cooldown to q w, w back, e, r, q for hilarious kiting if you think he's going to all in *or* just go for the q r w w back e to kite strat if you think he's not that greedy / that you can get away with it. Your cooldowns are short, abusive this fact.

Keep in mind that you *always have more burst* and that he *always has more sustained damage* - if you burst him and take less damage, you win.

Also, there's nothing wrong with going zhonya first on leblanc.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Ugh I hate high elo Yasuo/Riven mains because once he kills you, its almost impossible to exert pressure anymore without thr risk of getting your shit pushed in. But you also learn a lot from it. A couple days ago me and my brother (both gold) faced a botlane that was diamond/gold. The lane went even and every time there was a trade you immediatly know what you did wrong if you lose the trade. Previously I just got angry facing high elo players but Ive come to learn that they are still just human and make mistakes. And it feels good when you beat that platinum 1 player once

[Dwlee99]

How do I deal with e+tornado q ? Cause in your trading scenario getting hit by it = instant loss.

[RayFrost]

That's why you don't trade when the tornado's up. You literally never trade into tornado just like you wouldn't try trading with an annie that has stun up.

If he tries to go in, you start off with e as he e's into you, this will allow the snare to pop and enable you to w away or q, w away, r for damage, then use the blinks to kite around him.

[Dwlee99]

What about him charging it during the fight?

[xRECKONERx]

Q is on a 4 second CD. For him to use the tornado on you from the start of the fight, it would take him 12 seconds (or at least 8, if he engages with one Q). You're not supposed to be fighting him for that long. Trades shouldn't be that long.

[Psyche]

lissandra does great against yas :}

[Dwlee99]

Not with attack speed from him leveling up. With one as item he gets like 1.5 cd which only takes 5 seconds. also when I use my combo on him assuming I dont kill him (it is just a trade) he then follows me into my minions and knocks me up and kills me. That is what happened.

[RayFrost]

Then you're clearly messing something up because you're *not supposed to be trading for that long*

Also, it's not 1.5 second cd at level two. He has no items. Don't be silly. And one dagger is not enough to get it to 1.5 second cd.

But even if it were a 1.5 second cd, you can q w w in approximately .5-1 second (depending on ping, button pressing skills, etc), if he follows you into the minion wave after you get your burst off, all you have to do is walk away, auto, or be willing to burn flash. That aside, for him to be able to even get to you he'll have to e to you, meaning he can't e+nado, meaning you can actually dodge it because it's a skillshot. You can also dodge his normal q, since it's a skillshot.

There is literally no situation in which you should die at level two as leblanc to anything within normal circumstances. Jungler ganks shouldn't happen that early unless they're from shaco, and nobody can get in on you hard or long enough to do shit. If you're dying, you're making several horrible, terrible, awful mistakes that you should be ashamed of. Not just one, but many. Because it takes a whole lot to die as lebonk.

If you'd like to play the matchup with me, I'd be more than willing to play leblanc into your yasuo. So I can show you what do.

[Flamemeda]

Honestly, accuracy vs Yasuo is important. If you wanna pop his shield, use an auto rather than skills. Try baiting out his windwall, save your chains for afterwards. Don't panic if he aggresses on you. If you miss your shit vs him you're grand fucked. But honestly I would just go Nocturne/Zed/Talon if they have a Yasuo

[RayFrost]

I would feel completely calm, cool, and comfortable playing leblanc into yasuo. Skill based matchup.

Would personally recommend malzahar / lissandra / syndra for ap-based counterpicks into yasuo.

[Flamemeda]

Oh god, playing as Yasuo versus Malzahar...

[RayFrost]

Back when I was gold, I destroyed a diamond level yasuo main because lolmalzahar.

[hiplop]

dwlee wait for yas to throw a tornado then kill him

[Papa Zito]

(it's just that easy)

[hiplop]

(it's just that easy)

^

[Dwlee99]

Ray, could I possibly play leblanc into your yasuo instead?

[PJ.]

I need a trusted support main to explain something to me.

[hiplop]

ok im here panzer

[PJ.]

handled

[Klazam]

Bronze 2 yay >.>

[JasonWazza]

Question is Kassadin's Riftwalk meant to stop you from casting your W or is that a bug?

[Dwlee99]

Like right are you r you cant w? Cause you should be able to.

[JasonWazza]

Eg. i ult and instantly hit my W, and it won't actually trigger.