Newbie 1687 (Game Over)

[literallypam]

And also because it seems like everyone wants a Drixx lynch but everyone who hasn't voted is scared they'll look bad jumping on now.

VOTE: Drixx

I'm not going on much more than holy shit that wall of text.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy or the contradiction here?

Yeah because being the 3rd or 4th person looks scummy, so I was just pre-empting the critcism, although apparently I did so badly. And if Drixx IS mafia, he'll probably outplay the village pretty well.

[Reubus Swagrid]

And also because it seems like everyone wants a Drixx lynch but everyone who hasn't voted is scared they'll look bad jumping on now.

VOTE: Drixx

I'm not going on much more than holy shit that wall of text.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy or the contradiction here?

Yeah because being the 3rd or 4th person looks scummy, so I was just pre-empting the critcism, although apparently I did so badly. And if Drixx IS mafia, he'll probably outplay the village pretty well.

NK analysis, scum hunting and power roles generally prevent things like that from happening. As I said there is no case for Drixx being scum so there is no reason to be voting him outside RVS unless you're reaction fishing or trying to pressure him. Any other vote outside of RVS would imply that there is a case against the person you are voting. So, why did you vote Drixx?

[literallypam]

Because it seemed like most people were voting for him and he seems more dangerous as mafia than useful as town. Also, it's mostly random.

[Reubus Swagrid]

Because it seemed like most people were voting for him and he seems more dangerous as mafia than useful as town. Also, it's mostly random.

Is it random or do you have a case??

[Drixx]

Because it seemed like most people were voting for him and he seems more dangerous as mafia than useful as town. Also, it's mostly random.

Two RVS votes aren't "most people".

Why do you say that I am more dangerous as mafia than useful as town? Do you know me? Have you read my games?

I can link you to very good games where I played assigned as mafia and did very good, but I can also show you games where I absolutely nailed it as town too. I would say that I am probably a little above average. There are tons of players on this site who are way better than me.

You still haven't explained who you think was scared to vote for me and why.

[literallypam]

Because it seemed like most people were voting for him and he seems more dangerous as mafia than useful as town. Also, it's mostly random.

Two RVS votes aren't "most people".

Why do you say that I am more dangerous as mafia than useful as town? Do you know me? Have you read my games?

I can link you to very good games where I played assigned as mafia and did very good, but I can also show you games where I absolutely nailed it as town too. I would say that I am probably a little above average. There are tons of players on this site who are way better than me.

You still haven't explained who you think was scared to vote for me and why.

Nobody likes to be the 3rd vote on anyone. You know that

[Drixx]

Setting aside whether or not the 3rd vote is more meaningful than others, you have avoided the question: please quote the posts that make you believe people wanted to vote me but were afraid to do so.

I'm also quite interested to know your mafia experience.

[Reubus Swagrid]

Ayo Pam, how many people constitutes everyone? 2?

Also is it your first time playing Mafia?

I so asked him before

[Reubus Swagrid]

Legit ignoring all my questions

1.

Ayo Pam, how many people constitutes everyone? 2?

Also is it your first time playing Mafia?

I so asked him before

2.

Because it seemed like most people were voting for him and he seems more dangerous as mafia than useful as town. Also, it's mostly random.

And also because it seems like everyone wants a Drixx lynch but everyone who hasn't voted is scared they'll look bad jumping on now.

VOTE: Drixx

I'm not going on much more than holy shit that wall of text.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy or the contradiction here?

Is it random or do you have a case??

3.

And also because it seems like everyone wants a Drixx lynch but everyone who hasn't voted is scared they'll look bad jumping on now.

VOTE: Drixx

I'm not going on much more than holy shit that wall of text.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy or the contradiction here?

Yeah because being the 3rd or 4th person looks scummy, so I was just pre-empting the critcism, although apparently I did so badly. And if Drixx IS mafia, he'll probably outplay the village pretty well.

NK analysis, scum hunting and power roles generally prevent things like that from happening. As I said there is no case for Drixx being scum so there is no reason to be voting him outside RVS unless you're reaction fishing or trying to pressure him. Any other vote outside of RVS would imply that there is a case against the person you are voting. So, why did you vote Drixx?

4.

And also because it seems like everyone wants a Drixx lynch but everyone who hasn't voted is scared they'll look bad jumping on now.

VOTE: Drixx

I'm not going on much more than holy shit that wall of text.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy or the contradiction here?

[literallypam]

Oh come on, I've answered all your questions, you just keep re-phrasing them.

[literallypam]

I don't care if it makes me look scummy, i'm getting tired of answering the question and Drixx being like, "LOL QUOTE THE POST."

[Rufus Delorian]

Literallypam, is there anyone that seems scummy to you at this point?

[Drixx]

I don't care if it makes me look scummy, i'm getting tired of answering the question and Drixx being like, "LOL QUOTE THE POST."

You said that you saw people who wanted to vote for me but were scared. I've asked you which people... you gave no names. I asked you what they said that made you think they were scared, and you responded with some tripe about voting 3rd against someone.

Basically you just made up a reason to vote, and I've asked you questions to see if you could actually legit show evidence that you had reason to believe other people wanted to vote me but were scared to. You have been unable to produce any evidence and dodged every question, and now you're making a straw man argument.

You're caught scum. People pay attention on this site. You can't just make something up that you have no way to support and hope nobody will question it. Consider this a friendly suggestion to up your game. But not too friendly, because you're scum and we have to lynch you. But you should definitely keep playing here. You also slipped a bit talking about VCA concepts and refusing to talk about your experience, but you probably realized why I asked I'm guessing.

Anyway, that was easy.

VOTE: Literallypam

[literallypam]

I never said I had much of a reason. You wanted reasons, so I gave you the weak reasons I could think of. I just saw a bunch of votes for Drixx. I guess that's what I get for not reading more carefully.

[Reubus Swagrid]

I don't care if it makes me look scummy, i'm getting tired of answering the question and Drixx being like, "LOL QUOTE THE POST."

You said that you saw people who wanted to vote for me but were scared. I've asked you which people... you gave no names. I asked you what they said that made you think they were scared, and you responded with some tripe about voting 3rd against someone.

Basically you just made up a reason to vote, and I've asked you questions to see if you could actually legit show evidence that you had reason to believe other people wanted to vote me but were scared to. You have been unable to produce any evidence and dodged every question, and now you're making a straw man argument.

You're caught scum. People pay attention on this site. You can't just make something up that you have no way to support and hope nobody will question it. Consider this a friendly suggestion to up your game. But not too friendly, because you're scum and we have to lynch you. But you should definitely keep playing here. You also slipped a bit talking about VCA concepts and refusing to talk about your experience, but you probably realized why I asked I'm guessing.

Anyway, that was easy.

VOTE: Literallypam

Thank you

[Reubus Swagrid]

Oh come on, I've answered all your questions, you just keep re-phrasing them.

They're 4 different questions;

How many people constitutes everyone?

Was your vote random or do you actually have a case?

If so, why did you vote Drixx?

Do posts 47 & 48 contradict each other?

[Reubus Swagrid]

Gee we're chugging along slowly, where is everyone?? We need a lot more posting happening here

@Zaicon

What are you going to do about Hawkleader?

[Rufus Delorian]

I was waiting to see if anyone else would give opinions on the Literallypam accusation...I'm not as convinced as you & Drixx seem to be.

This might get some discussion going:

My susipicions of Kagesong have increased, in 99:

Truth be told, the Scum's best strategy now would be to kill you tonight. That would, by your own statement make Kirroha seem guilty, regardless of her guilt. Actually I would be more suspicious of Kirroha if you remain alive.

Sounds to me like he's planning to kill someone other than guttsa tonight, maybe to make Kirroha look guilty. Then he link back to that post and say "Oh, the scum didn't do what was obviously the best strategy, I can't be scum because I would have, let's lynch Kirroha!" Or he'll kill Kirroha and try to get a lynch on Guttsa.

VOTE: Kagesong

[kagesong]

I was waiting to see if anyone else would give opinions on the Literallypam accusation...I'm not as convinced as you & Drixx seem to be.

This might get some discussion going:

My susipicions of Kagesong have increased, in 99:

Truth be told, the Scum's best strategy now would be to kill you tonight. That would, by your own statement make Kirroha seem guilty, regardless of her guilt. Actually I would be more suspicious of Kirroha if you remain alive.

Sounds to me like he's planning to kill someone other than guttsa tonight, maybe to make Kirroha look guilty. Then he link back to that post and say "Oh, the scum didn't do what was obviously the best strategy, I can't be scum because I would have, let's lynch Kirroha!" Or he'll kill Kirroha and try to get a lynch on Guttsa.

VOTE: Kagesong

Well, sadly, I can't argue with your logic. Sadly for the town you are wrong. However, you would want to try to make a case against the fella who fingers you as scum. You know, so I can't prove it further later on. But your case is intriguing. In fact, can I vote for myself? Because I will, if the town thinks your case is good, I'll lead the charge.

[literallypam]

Oh come on, I've answered all your questions, you just keep re-phrasing them.

They're 4 different questions;

How many people constitutes everyone?

Was your vote random or do you actually have a case?

It was random

If so, why did you vote Drixx?

Do posts 47 & 48 contradict each other?

This is the last time I answer:

It was because I saw other people voting him at first.

I'm more comfortable now that I think about it because a good player is more dangerous as mafia than useful as town.

[kirroha]

VOTE: notachipmunk

His claim of not being a chipmunk early seems panicky

Hey guys. I'm hawkleader3 and I've been in a few mafia games. Still learning, but I've played around 6 or so games. I wish you all the best of luck

Who is even awake?
+8 Timezone here

Central. So whichever that is. Usually (or at least in all the games I've played in) people start bandwagons to get pressure onto others at this point in the mafia game as nobody has made major reactions to the RVS votes.

We need to hear more from this guy, who has only made two non-game-related posts. Just popping this in.

[kirroha]

First of all, I'm newbie at this game (my first mafia game), so it's possible I'm saying something stupid.
It's a bit suspicious how

intense

is your rage at me, if I end up dead, things will turn ugly for you (my innocence will be proven)!
Nice of you, putting a rope in your neck, so soon in the game.
Apparently I was right about you being an unstable individual. xD

Truth be told, the Scum's best strategy now would be to kill you tonight. That would, by your own statement make Kirroha seem guilty, regardless of her guilt. Actually I would be more suspicious of Kirroha if you remain alive.

Oh please, don't introduce needless WIFOM in this game please.

Regardless, it is early in the day and I find it strange you are discussing potential night-kill analyses!

[kirroha]

Also, kagesong, that quote above makes me feel as if you're absolutely sure that guttsa is definitely town. Why is that?

[kagesong]

Also, kagesong, that quote above makes me feel as if you're absolutely sure that guttsa is definitely town. Why is that?

I'm not certain about anything . I just happen to think I know who the scums is.

[Rufus Delorian]

You seem awfully confident about reads you claimed to have made after, what? 2 pages?

I'm assuming you still suspect me and literallypam...or should that be literallypam and I?