Newbie 1687 (Game Over)

[FrogSC2]

Well I called Literallypam completely wrong...woops.

I'd say Frog definitively claimed Jailkeeper before the night, surely that means the scum is me or him, I'd rather we lynch him first but I can definitely see people wanting me lynched...its a town win even if you do me then Frog so I'm not too bothered about order.

VOTE: FrogSC2

Lmfao. Learn what a decoy is.

And dude, if I didn't push the pam lynch, we'd be in square 1, so just no.

[FrogSC2]

@PhantomCobalt

Hey! We've played together as scum in that 15er right?

[FrogSC2]

POE boys get around it

VOTE: Rufus Delorian

Reubus, yes I agree. Normally I would.

Rufus' play being blatantly pro-Pam should put him in the square POE next in line.

I have 2 main problems with voting him.

1) Neither myself, nor Rufus was killed last night after both of us claimed TPRs. Which means either one of us is scum (I'm not), or Scum is happy with Rufus' position in the POE and risked the RB for one night (very logical). The final option is that the last scum has literally no idea what he/she is doing by not going after me/Rufus.

2) You're voting for a TPR claimer where no one has counter claimed directly yet. If you're expecting me to counterclaim Rufus, I simply won't. In fact I'll straight up claim villager. Until anyone else counter claims the TPR position, I will not be voting Rufus. On the other hand, if the real TPR claims, Rufus will naturally hang.

I will allow everyone the opportunity to TPR claim now (yes I know it's D2, such lols).

[FrogSC2]

@Rufus

Since you suspected me as scum yesterday AND today, I would assume I would have been your prime roleblocking target? Well, did you roleblock me?

Did you notice that there were still kills?

Do you realize that I'm now an officially cleared town?

[FrogSC2]

@PhantomCobalt

Hey! We've played together as scum in that 15er right?

Yes... THAT 15er, where the whole Town was salty afterwards.

[FrogSC2]

@Rufus

So we're left with 3 options:

1) You are the jailkeeper. Who did you roleblock last night? By saying who you roleblocked it officially clears that person. Assuming no one counterclaims with a Town Power Role, I will believe this scenario and we can formulate a new Process of Elimination.

2) You are the second wolf. This strategy would be particularly bad for you do as a wolf, because the real TPR could easily counter claim against you in a heads up 1v1. You cannot win in that situation this early.

3) You are a villager who isn't the Jailkeeper/TPR (Town Power Role) and you're pushing against me for made up reasons. This situation is absurd and very VERY unlikely. In this event, you would have been the likely night kill given your evident self-outting yesterday.

[FrogSC2]

So here's what I think is going to happen.

1) TPR counter claims and Rufus hangs. GG, Town wins.

2) No one counter claims, Rufus is able to clear 1 more person.

Considering we're at 7 players, that limits the POE to 5 players.

Rufus and (assume myself) whoever he roleblocked will die tonight and tomorrow night.

We will be able to narrow down the POE to:
7 players alive, 5 in the POE - D2
5 players alive, 4 in the POE - D3
3 players alive, 3 in the POE - D4 (MYLO)

All we have to do is Town block 2 players in the POE and it should be GG.

AKA, we need a strong POE of 3 players today, assuming Rufus IS the real Town Power Role.

Living players:
Drixx, FrogSC2, kagesong, notachipmunk, PhantomCobalt, Reubus Swagrid, Rufus Delorian

Assuming both Rufus and myself are cleared, players in the POE:
Drixx, kagesong, notachipmunk, PhantomCobalt, Reubus Swagrid

I very much want to make notachipmunk a Town Block member.

Considering Reubus' push on Rufus after the Panther flip, I find this push SOMEWHAT logical for both a villager and a wolf, so I cannot put Reubus as a clear DESPITE the early push on Pam.

Same goes for Drixx, his lines avoided contact with almost everyone else other than zeroing in on Pam (and pushback on me for wanting more lines from him).

I'm HOPING Rufus isn't the real TPR and we can end this in a perfect sweep today, and the real TPR will come forward.

*Note*

If you are the REAL Town Power Role, you need to counter claim Rufus now.

[FrogSC2]

FYI - if we vote at random with the entire 5 POE, we have a 60% chance of winning straight up random.org

If we take notachipmunk out, we have 75% chance of winning straight up guessing the POE today.

[FrogSC2]

This is how we win:

Assuming Rufus IS the TPR, he should announce who he is targeting tonight so that we can clear one more person tomorrow from the POE, making it a broken game.

What that would do:

Assuming Rufus roleblocked me last night, and Rufus is the TPR, and he RBs one more person, and Rufus dies. And we take notachipmunk out of the POE.

It would limit the POE to just 2 players.

E.g.

Rufus
Frog
Player 1 (rbed by Rufus tonight)
Player 2 (notachipmunk)

Player 3- D4 lynch - These players remain in the POE
Player 4- D5 lynch - These players remain in the POE

Player 5 (is lynched today)

[Drixx]

Wait. Let me get this straight. I correctly identified scum on day one, made reasonably sure I was right, and then dug my teeth in and refused to let go ... but somehow I'm in the possibly not town pile? What universe do you live in?

Nice attempt to take credit for literallypam, btw. I already had that slot dead to rights and it was getting lynched when you replaced in. You had nothing to do with it, other than you didn't noise up the thread enough to disrupt the lynch (thankfully).

[FrogSC2]

Even if Mafia refuses to kill, and frames player 1 as being roleblocked, Rufus will still be alive to roleblock again.

So we lynch player 1 (mislynch), and then Rufus has a 50% chance of roleblocking the correct player out of players 3/4.

So that would either automatically clear player 3, thus we lynch player 4 and it's GG. Or Rufus again doesn't die and we win because we lynch player 3.

If we can assume notachipmunk is a town (which I believe we easily can)
And if Rufus IS the REAL TPR, and CLAIMS who he targetted and who his future targets will be, Town wins 100% of the time.

GG everyone.

Sorry Mafia.

[FrogSC2]

Wait. Let me get this straight. I correctly identified scum on day one, made reasonably sure I was right, and then dug my teeth in and refused to let go ... but somehow I'm in the possibly not town pile? What universe do you live in?

Nice attempt to take credit for literallypam, btw. I already had that slot dead to rights and it was getting lynched when you replaced in. You had nothing to do with it, other than you didn't noise up the thread enough to disrupt the lynch (thankfully).

Drixx, don't take it personally man. Distancing is a common practice and something you should at minimum acknowledge as a valid clearing strategy.

In any case, review my plan, tell me how fullproof it is. We won.

[FrogSC2]

@Everyone

1) If you are the real Town Power Role CLAIM NOW, we lynch Rufus GG

@ Rufus

2) Who did you target last night? Let's come up with a POE list if you are the REAL Town Power Rolen. And please announce your target BEFORE going into the night.

[Rufus Delorian]

I did jail Frog last night.

If he's the Mafia Roleblocker, as I suspect, who I choose to jail doesn't matter, it also doesn't matter too much if I die, I'm effectively a VT now.

If he is scum, killing me would be wasted, I'm obviously a prime lynching target today and he can just roleblock me each night.

That's all I can think of atm...could be completely wrong, my track record isn't great.

[FrogSC2]

I did jail Frog last night.

If he's the Mafia Roleblocker, as I suspect, who I choose to jail doesn't matter, it also doesn't matter too much if I die, I'm effectively a VT now.

If he is scum, killing me would be wasted, I'm obviously a prime lynching target today and he can just roleblock me each night.

That's all I can think of atm...could be completely wrong, my track record isn't great.

@Rufus

Then I'm officially a clear Town.

If you roleblocked me, I wouldn't have been able to kill Panther last night.

Perfect.

Who are we lynching today? Who are you roleblocking tonight?

IMO, roleblock PhantomCobalt,

ANNOUNCE WHO YOU WILL JAIL TONIGHT AND STICK TO IT. THE PLAN IS IMPERATIVE IF YOU ARE THE REAL TPR.

and we lynch out of:
Reubus, Drixx, kagesong - with a nod to lynching Kagesong today.

[FrogSC2]

Please feel free to talk this out with me if you're here.

I feel like a dick-tator at the moment being a town clear.

[notachipmunk]

Well I called Literallypam completely wrong...woops.

I'd say Frog definitively claimed Jailkeeper before the night, surely that means the scum is me or him, I'd rather we lynch him first but I can definitely see people wanting me lynched...its a town win even if you do me then Frog so I'm not too bothered about order.

VOTE: FrogSC2

Lmfao. Learn what a decoy is.

And dude, if I didn't push the pam lynch, we'd be in square 1, so just no.

Can you explain why you did that JK thing Frog? I mean at first I was like yep sarcasm but after Rufus claimed and then you sorta kinda did too how does that "decoy" work - so Rufus would hopefully jail you to get 2 VTs?

[FrogSC2]

Well I called Literallypam completely wrong...woops.

I'd say Frog definitively claimed Jailkeeper before the night, surely that means the scum is me or him, I'd rather we lynch him first but I can definitely see people wanting me lynched...its a town win even if you do me then Frog so I'm not too bothered about order.

VOTE: FrogSC2

Lmfao. Learn what a decoy is.

And dude, if I didn't push the pam lynch, we'd be in square 1, so just no.

Can you explain why you did that JK thing Frog? I mean at first I was like yep sarcasm but after Rufus claimed and then you sorta kinda did too how does that "decoy" work - so Rufus would hopefully jail you to get 2 VTs?

I was hoping to be included as a potential night kill target.

I said "Sheriff Jailor" as a way to be as vague as possible, denoting a vague Town Power Role.

A friend of mine infamously claims Sheriff Jailor at the start of every game he plays.

[FrogSC2]

So far we can assume neither you, nor Drixx, is the real TPR. Correct?

If you can counterclaim Rufus today, please do it now.

Waiting on Reubus, Kagesong, PhantomCobalt to counter claim now.

Rufus - Claims Jailkeeper
Frog - Claim Villager (Town cleared by Rufus)
Drixx - Claims Villager (Did not counter claim)
Notachipmunk - Claims Villager (Did not counter claim)
Reubus - ?
Kagesong - ?
PhantomCobalt - ?


Can you confirm you are a villager Notachipmunk?
Or if you are the real Town Power Role, please claim it now.

[FrogSC2]

Again, the ONLY way Rufus would EVER be lynched today, is if anyone else counter claims him now.

[Rufus Delorian]

If the remaining scum is the Mafia Roleblocker, my jailings won't clear anyone because the Roleblocker acts before me, says so on page 1 of the game.

If they're a regular goon, I don't know why I'm still alive, even acting randomly at night has an ok chance of stopping a NK.

I'd say Drixx & Reubus are the best choice for cleared town, they jumped on a scum straight off. I'm thinking Kagesong's probably town too for the same reason...I think his WIFOMy style gave me scummy vibes but he was pretty clear about suspecting Pam.

If we're trying to get roles claimed, the existence or not of a bulletproof townie would clear up whether Frog is cleared or not.

[FrogSC2]

If the remaining scum is the Mafia Roleblocker, my jailings won't clear anyone because the Roleblocker acts before me, says so on page 1 of the game.

If they're a regular goon, I don't know why I'm still alive, even acting randomly at night has an ok chance of stopping a NK.

I'd say Drixx & Reubus are the best choice for cleared town, they jumped on a scum straight off. I'm thinking Kagesong's probably town too for the same reason...I think his WIFOMy style gave me scummy vibes but he was pretty clear about suspecting Pam.

If we're trying to get roles claimed, the existence or not of a bulletproof townie would clear up whether Frog is cleared or not.

Do players receive roleblock notifications?

If so, then Rufus, you'd know if you were roleblocked or not.

[FrogSC2]

for the record, I did not receive any roleblock notifications

[FrogSC2]

The premise remains the same.

Unless someone can counter claim Rufus today, that they are in fact the REAL Town Power Role, then we will NEVER lynch Rufus.

[Rufus Delorian]

I doubt it if you didn't know you'd been jailed