Mini 1770: College Mafia! (Game Ovah)

[Thor665]

Uf da!

[Night Hunters]

The neighborhood started at the start of last night, is working during the day and has the neighborizer in it.

[Night Hunters]

@Jeanne, Can you be quiet? I am actually scumhunting scum that slipped. You are not helping yourself any.

[Thor665]

Okay, so now we have a neigborize claim from a slot that may have gone nowhere last night and is claiming to have been blocked, but yet neighborizing did happen.
That is a valid Shadow lynch reason right there.
NH scum would not attempt to kamikaze themselves on a lie (requiring FB to lie also) to manage a Shadow mslynch methinks.
I could see Shadow at this point going for the kamikaze.

Unvote: Jeanne
Vote: Shaddowez

The rest of the role interaction is a little bit of a logistical logjam to work through - my plan is to get a few more people dead and sort it later.

I do not believe Firebringer's claim at this stage - JKer is not a provable role, and is the classic fakeclaim for scum RBers.
I will admit that logic does *not* play smoothly into the rest of the info I have however.
Eh.
Shadow scum flip will make me call NH obv. town and FB at least town until near lylo when I can get paranoid about him again
I actually think I'm talking myself out of Shadow again, because this is just a gnarled mess here - but FB could be town if one presumes bad play, and Shadow does not.

I can buy Shadow/Jeanne - with an FB badtown, that could result in this.
Let's go with that theory for the nonce.

[Night Hunters]

Plus you going nowhere is really inconsistent with you trying to neighborize (you would be shown as being bus driven to bbt under your theory).

When Fire gets on, he'll vote you too most likely too.

[Thor665]

He pretty much has to regardless of his alignment unless you're scum with him
But, yeah, agreed.

@NH - y/n question. Did you guys discuss your night targets prior to the end of night? Basically I'm asking because if you did, then it pretty much confirms the neighborizer as obv. town also, as otherwise Shadow would have known the plan on him and could have, y'know, not gone with the Bus Driver theory.

[shaddowez]

Plus you going nowhere is really inconsistent with you trying to neighborize (you would be shown as being bus driven to bbt under your theory).

When Fire gets on, he'll vote you too most likely too.

That was my theory, but you've already brought up multiple options like Ascetic and blocking. Additionally, this is all assuming that Aero actually "messed up" and sent you multiple PMs about your result.

[Night Hunters]

@Shaddowez, And your explanation about how you're the neighborizer who neighborized me and Fire when you targeted neither of us and there's someone in the hood claiming he did?

@Thor, We did but I fail to see your conclusion. Shadowez picked bus driver prior to mod errors. The only way we theoretically have confirmation Shadow went nowhere is through mod actions that were unpredictable. If [RedactedX] or Fire is scum, they could just as easily say so to their scum partners and then make a turbo lynch claim.

I am not eliminating Ari or Shadow just yet.

[Night Hunters]

I meant Fire or ReactedX not eliminated. Totally distracted there.

[shaddowez]

@Shaddowez, And your explanation about how you're the neighborizer who neighborized me and Fire when you targeted neither of us and there's someone in the hood claiming he did?

I'm not claiming to have neighborized you and Fire. I'm telling you what my role PM says. I visted GL last night to neighborize him, which for some reason failed. I said bus driver before you said you were in a hood, because you were implying you tracked me to BBT. Without your false implication, I would have assumed roleblock or JK (on GL, not me).

[Night Hunters]

So you're claiming there's two neighborizers now?

P.S. The proper response is that you didn't visit the dead guy, not that there's no way I got a result on you.

You ought to know by now people in jail can be targeted.

[massive]

Just for completeness' sake: Shaddowez, why did you pick GL as your neighborize target?

[Firebringer]

lol at this new development.
VOTE: Shadowez

Don't know why Night Hunters wanted me to block Jeanne11 instead of Shaddowez.

[Firebringer]

I do not believe Firebringer's claim at this stage - JKer is not a provable role, and is the classic fakeclaim for scum RBers.

Roleblockers are totally provable. But just not a strong provable role here since you don't get feedback on being blocked unless your PR, and even then could mean ascetic.

But anyway, lots of what I said yesterday was to get people to think I am BP or investigative role. See if scum would NK, which I assumed they wouldn't. I was right.

I know what people think of my level of play.

[Jeanne11]

No, I can't be quiet if you are blatantly accusing me of being his partner when I am not. You are accusing me. Here's the proof.

I can buy Shadow/Jeanne - with an FB badtown, that could result in this.
Let's go with that theory for the nonce.

[SirCakez]

Shadowez says he's the Neighborizer but that he didn't visit anyone last night

???
Very sure NH is town now. Intent to vote Shadowez.

[shaddowez]

Just for completeness' sake: Shaddowez, why did you pick GL as your neighborize target?

I picked somebody I was town reading, but was unlikly to be an NK target.

Shadowez says he's the Neighborizer but that he didn't visit anyone last night

???
Very sure NH is town now. Intent to vote Shadowez.

I never said I didn't visit anyone, I said my action failed. Apparently reading comprehension 101 wasn't a prereq for this game...

I'm town, I'm certain there's scum on my wagon, and if my flip is the only thing that gets people to see that then so be it.

[ɀefiend]

Prodge. At SXSW currently. I will give this game some devotion when I get done tonight.

[GuiltyLion]

The neighborhood started at the start of last night, is working during the day and has the neighborizer in it.

Given this, shaddowez's neighborizer claim makes no sense

VOTE: shaddowez

[GuiltyLion]

^btw

this is L-1

, apologies for not announcing it earlier. On reread I realized I miscounted votes, thought I was making it L-2

[Thor665]

But anyway, lots of what I said yesterday was to get people to think I am BP or investigative role. See if scum would NK, which I assumed they wouldn't. I was right.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.

[Aeronaut]

VC 2.3

VC 2.3

(With 11 students still enrolled, it's 6 to Lynch!)

- University of Tokyo (Tokyo, Japan) -

[L-5] Aristophanes -

SirCakez
[L-6] Firebringer -
[L-6] GuiltyLion -

[L-4] Jeanne11 -

kirroha, ɀefiend,
[L-6] kirroha -
[L-6] massive -

[L-4] Night Hunters -

Jeanne11, shaddowez
[L-6] Thor665 -

[L-1] shaddowez -

Night Hunters, Aristophanes, Thor665, Firebringer, GuiltyLion,
[L-6] SirCakez -
[L-6] ɀefiend -

Not Voting

- massive

Mod Notes:

Shaddowez is L-1.

Final Exams begin

(expired on 2016-03-28 20:20:32)

[Firebringer]

But anyway, lots of what I said yesterday was to get people to think I am BP or investigative role. See if scum would NK, which I assumed they wouldn't. I was right.

Pull the other one, it has bells on.

What?

[SirCakez]

Just for completeness' sake: Shaddowez, why did you pick GL as your neighborize target?

I picked somebody I was town reading, but was unlikly to be an NK target.

Shadowez says he's the Neighborizer but that he didn't visit anyone last night

???
Very sure NH is town now. Intent to vote Shadowez.

I never said I didn't visit anyone, I said my action failed. Apparently reading comprehension 101 wasn't a prereq for this game...

I'm town, I'm certain there's scum on my wagon, and if my flip is the only thing that gets people to see that then so be it.

OK same thing. You didn't visit anyone last night so you couldn't have neighborized.

[shaddowez]

OK same thing. You didn't visit anyone last night so you couldn't have neighborized.

1) I'm not claiming to have neighborized FB or NH. I'm just saying what my role is. You're jumping to conclusions.

2) Again, there is no proof I didn't visit anyone. My action failed....bus driven to a dead person, ascetic, visiting a JK person....any of those would result in a failure.

I'm really not even sure what you're trying to get at here, other than justifying your sheep vote.

Additionally, from the Neighborizer wiki:

A Neighborizer without any Neighbors at the start of the game is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. Any players added to a Neighborhood are added at the

start of the next day

, regardless of whether the Neighborizer lives or not, and their Role Name is not changed.

So unless Aero has a second neighborizer he gave the Day modifier to, the claim of the neighborhood starting at the beginning of the night makes no sense. They can also only add one person - so if it's only FB and NH in the hood, at least one of them is lying.