Mini 1770: College Mafia! (Game Ovah)

[Aeronaut]

[Night Hunters]

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[Firebringer]

UNVOTE:

[Night Hunters]

Okay, so one of fire or gl needs to be scum. Because either there are 2 scum blockers or GL is ascetic and titus and I don't think 3 roleblockers (2 scum 1 town) would be possible.

[Firebringer]

Okay, so one of fire or gl needs to be scum. Because either there are 2 scum blockers or GL is ascetic and titus and I don't think 3 roleblockers (2 scum 1 town) would be possible.

I was blocked too or was not enabled.
WHERE IS THAT IN YOUR ANALYSIS!

I attempted to JK Thor, it failed. I have no idea why.
EPLAIN IT!

[Night Hunters]

Ok, let's try this one more time Fire.

We were blocked.
Shaddow's action failed.
To fail a neighborize on a living player, then either Shadow was blocked or GuiltyLion is untargetable.

If Shadow was blocked, then there must be 3 blockers for you to be town. We are not buying three blockers ever. That leads to two scum teams, each with a blocker. Thus, you scum.

If GuiltyLion is untargetable, he's scum. Town claim that shit.


So how did Shaddow's action fail Fire?


And how did your action fail Fire without 2 blockers existing?
~Titus

[Night Hunters]

btw fire no replacing out, mmm k?
-Dad (Same with 1078)

pedit strongman, firebringer?

[ɀefiend]

Alright, I've thoroughly reread and there's a lot I would like to talk about before a lynch goes through, since we have plenty of time. And I don't think massive will quick hammer. I'd like to hear anyone and everyone's thoughts.

1. Is it possible Thor died in one action due to a non-bullet kill like knife or poison? Or perhaps there is mafia power that ignores protection of all types? Who really believes Thor was shot twice? If you do, can you explain the scenarios involving factions where this is likely?

2. To clarify, Aristophanes hasn't actually claimed anything, but NH is saying that he was informed by the mod that Aristophanes neighborized him? If that's so, why can't Firebringer confirm or deny this if he and NH are in the same neighborhood?

3. Shadow was a town neighborizer. If Aristophanes confirms that he did neighborize NH and FB, that makes him likely scum neighborizer. Is it mechanically possible for scum to recruit people on their own team? Depending on this basis, does that make it more likely that NH/FB are aligned with each other? Or more likely that one of them could be part of a second scumteam? If Aristophanes denies that he's a neighborizer altogether, then obviously one of him/NH is scum, but what does that mean for FB?

4. The whole "there must be 3 roleblocker or GL is ascetic theory"... why does FB's claim that he jailed Jeanne (who claims VT) require the presence of a third roleblocker? On a related note, why would a jail keeper (and since someone mentioned it) and/or a tracker need to be enabled? And how can we distinguish between blocked results and unenabled actions without being bastardized by the mod? Last point on this subject,

with the mod error basically confirming Shadow's story (but not necessarily NH's role),

why the FUCK did NH, and everyone else voting him, stick with the Shadow lynch yesterday??

5. Why was there only one death N1 and two deaths N2? Does this suggest a limited SK, more BPs, a double kill on BBT, or something else. I want to hear all the theories.

[Night Hunters]

Hmph, yeah strongman on Thor is possible, but I get the feeling they would have just used it on N1.

[Firebringer]

btw fire no replacing out, mmm k?
-Dad (Same with 1078)

pedit strongman, firebringer?

If its strong man, then why did they target the same player next night?
That doesn't make sense.

[Night Hunters]

Logically a scum team hitting someone with bp and has a one-shot bulletproof will strongman it the next time, right?

pedit ^^^^^^

[Night Hunters]

Logically a scum team hitting someone with bp and has a one-shot

strongman

will strongman it the next time, right?

pedit ^^^^^^

ebwop

[Firebringer]

Logically a scum team hitting someone with bp and has a one-shot bulletproof will strongman it the next time, right?

pedit ^^^^^^

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO N ON ON ON ON O NON O NO NO NON ON ON O

[Night Hunters]

WHY NOT?!

[Night Hunters]

I AM TELLING YOU WHAT THE LOGICAL EXPLANATION IS AND YOU SCREAM NO AT ME. WHAT THE HELL, FIRE.

[Firebringer]

WHY NOT?!

You push out that someone is BP, and that you are Vigi.
Thats what I would do.

You don't attempt to shoot the same person with your special strongman.

Thats stupid.

[Night Hunters]

That's risky af, though.

[Aeronaut]

can we not do full caps plz thankyou

[Night Hunters]

like then you risk getting cross-killed.

pedit sorry

[Night Hunters]

Alright, I've thoroughly reread and there's a lot I would like to talk about before a lynch goes through, since we have plenty of time. And I don't think massive will quick hammer. I'd like to hear anyone and everyone's thoughts.

1. Is it possible Thor died in one action due to a non-bullet kill like knife or poison? Or perhaps there is mafia power that ignores protection of all types? Who really believes Thor was shot twice? If you do, can you explain the scenarios involving factions where this is likely?

2. To clarify, Aristophanes hasn't actually claimed anything, but NH is saying that he was informed by the mod that Aristophanes neighborized him? If that's so, why can't Firebringer confirm or deny this if he and NH are in the same neighborhood?

3. Shadow was a town neighborizer. If Aristophanes confirms that he did neighborize NH and FB, that makes him likely scum neighborizer. Is it mechanically possible for scum to recruit people on their own team? Depending on this basis, does that make it more likely that NH/FB are aligned with each other? Or more likely that one of them could be part of a second scumteam? If Aristophanes denies that he's a neighborizer altogether, then obviously one of him/NH is scum, but what does that mean for FB?

4. The whole "there must be 3 roleblocker or GL is ascetic theory"... why does FB's claim that he jailed Jeanne (who claims VT) require the presence of a third roleblocker? On a related note, why would a jail keeper (and since someone mentioned it) and/or a tracker need to be enabled? And how can we distinguish between blocked results and unenabled actions without being bastardized by the mod? Last point on this subject,

with the mod error basically confirming Shadow's story (but not necessarily NH's role),

why the FUCK did NH, and everyone else voting him, stick with the Shadow lynch yesterday??

5. Why was there only one death N1 and two deaths N2? Does this suggest a limited SK, more BPs, a double kill on BBT, or something else. I want to hear all the theories.

1. Thor flipped BP. We're not likely looking at poison here. Any scenario explains Thor being twice. Thor had zero detractors (although he was scum), beyond Dwlee but we went with my feels. Thor could have been shot for "obvtown". If Thor wasn't shot for being obvtown, that says Fire shot him. Thor was full on tunnel Fire.

2. Fire's confirmed it by voting Shadow.

3. Neighborizers generally do not have limitations.

4. For Fire to be town, it would require a prescence of a third blocker or a lying Firebringer. We know that Shadow must be blocked or GL to be ascetic. For there to be two blockers and Fire to be honest, GL must be lying. For all three of us to be honest, you have to buy a three roleblocker theory, which is a load of fucking shit.

5. It strongly suggests Thor was shot N1.

I'm drinking more.

~Titus

[Firebringer]

I don't want this game. I don't want to fight with anyone.
Maybe I am wrong about it all. I suck at this game anyways.

The only reason keeping me in game, is that I don't replace (except I did 1 time recently)

[Night Hunters]

I don't want this game. I don't want to fight with anyone.
Maybe I am wrong about it all. I suck at this game anyways.

The only reason keeping me in game, is that I don't replace (except I did 1 time recently)

bruh. I actually think you're town here you have to work with me.
-Dad

[Night Hunters]

Looks like that would require a modifier of the Loud role that is not explicitly Normal.
That doesn't tell us much at this stage, but, with a few more flips that might be interesting, especially considering BBT's flip.
I'm also of the opinion we're missing a kill.


@NH - I'm asking if you were explicitly told you were blocked (not jailed).

how did we not catch this scum claim. wtf

[Night Hunters]

I'm trying to find someone who is hard scum reading thor to see if they could be scum who knew thor was bp, if anyone is wondering.

[Night Hunters]

This is useless, okay but what we do know is that ari is most likely scum (fitting scum meta + the neighborizing thing) and then one of fire/guiltylion (leaning guiltylion) and we just need to find the fourth.