Mini 1770: College Mafia! (Game Ovah)

[Night Hunters]

and like always, everyone is gone when I try to talk to them =_=

[massive]

I'm here, NH, if you want to talk to me.

I keep thinking that the presence of an "enabler" really throws a lot of this certainty behind being roleblocked into some doubt. So while I'm trying to keep it in mind, I think I'll go back and look at Thor's associatives for a bit.

[Aristophanes]

Hi all, I'm back!
I see I'm at L-1 :S
Nice to know I was missed!

NH is right about the number of blockers required. I don't get why they are being fought on it so hard!
N1:
Fire blocks Jeanne
??? Blocks NH
??? Blocks Shadow

That seems like way too much blocking power if it is a regular setup.
So either FB lied, GL is Ascetic, or we are in full multiball.
I don't think FB lies right now. So we need to flip GL and find out wtf is going on here!

Also, on the enabler talk, why are we assuming anyone but Kirrhoa's role was enabled? BBT flipped "BP Enabler" on a certain role, Aero confirmed that Thor's BP was not enabled, and Kirr's was, and there was no hint at anything else being enabled. It's pretty black and white.

Oh, and
VOTE: GL

[GuiltyLion]

That seems like way too much blocking power if it is a regular setup.
So either FB lied, GL is Ascetic, or we are in full multiball.
I don't think FB lies right now. So we need to flip GL and find out wtf is going on here!

Why aren't you considering the equally likely possibility that NH lied? Like they're claiming a tracker with no results that lived into D3

Hmmm

[Aristophanes]

That seems like way too much blocking power if it is a regular setup.
So either FB lied, GL is Ascetic, or we are in full multiball.
I don't think FB lies right now. So we need to flip GL and find out wtf is going on here!

Why aren't you considering the equally likely possibility that NH lied? Like they're claiming a tracker with no results that lived into D3

Hmmm

Right.
Because they are Motherfucking Town!
(Pardon my language, Mom & Dad)

Why is this so hard to grasp?

[GuiltyLion]

I see no outstanding reason to believe NH is town

[GuiltyLion]

Like try to quote one of their pushes that is clearly town motivated

[Aristophanes]

Like try to quote one of their pushes that is clearly town motivated

K, I'll be back with that.

Though the correct and easy answer is "all of them, because they are town, and town is only able to push town motivated wagons."

[GuiltyLion]

From where I'm sitting I see two mislynches on PRs, along with a Fire push in tandem with scum!Thor, and a push on me based off of nothing but claims about setup spec that are tied fundamentally to their own claim.

And that looks town to you

[GuiltyLion]

Since we have just over two days to deadline and you already have votes, sure.

VOTE: Thor

You sheepy scum? Thor is obvtown and you've piled on almost every wagon.

Oh and look, here's a chainsaw against town voting scum

[massive]

Also, on the enabler talk, why are we assuming anyone but Kirrhoa's role was enabled? BBT flipped "BP Enabler" on a certain role, Aero confirmed that Thor's BP was not enabled, and Kirr's was, and there was no hint at anything else being enabled. It's pretty black and white.

Not sure how I missed that. I was reading through thinking about how we were running out of possible people to be an enabler, and about why that person wouldn't have come forward already. Well. Duh.

[Aristophanes]

Since we have just over two days to deadline and you already have votes, sure.

VOTE: Thor

You sheepy scum? Thor is obvtown and you've piled on almost every wagon.

Oh and look, here's a chainsaw against town voting scum

Why didn't they vote them then and try for a counterwagon?

Actually, that's exactly what you did on NH. Looking at VCS following that, Thor had been at L-2, but the switch to NH, and ultimately ToJam, derailed that. You were early on the scum counterwagon, which is another strike against you.

I still have to do my homework oh NH for you, but I will also be looking at how this counterwagon evolved.
Why has nobody done this yet?
We have flipped scum who was almost lynched D1!

[Aeronaut]

VC 3.5

VC 3.5

(With 8 students still enrolled, it's 5 to Lynch!)

- Bentley University (Waltham, MA) -

[L-2] Aristophanes -

GuiltyLion, SirCakez, Night Hunters
[L-5] Firebringer -

[L-4] GuiltyLion -

Aristophanes
[L-5] Jeanne11 -
[L-5] massive -

[L-4] Night Hunters -

Jeanne11
[L-5] SirCakez -
[L-5] ɀefiend -

Not Voting

- massive, ɀefiend, Firebringer

Mod Notes:

caught in a landslide

Final Exams begin

(expired on 2016-04-02 20:20:32)

[SirCakez]

I am getting loads of town vibes from Fire's recent posts. Don't want to lynch there at all today.
Which means at least one scum is on this Aristo wagon with me which makes me hesitant now.

[Night Hunters]

Setup says GL and Ari is scum, Ari scum is way less definitive.
VOTE: GL
Ari is towning up.

[Night Hunters]

-Dad ^

[GuiltyLion]

oh look, here's NH jumping off the bus at the nearest opportunity.

Explain why am I "more definitively" scum than Ari. Ari's role is functionally a counterclaim to an already flipped town role.

[Night Hunters]

because of the ascetic what don't you getttttttt
-Dad

[GuiltyLion]

because I'm not ascetic holy shit

explain how I am more scum than a neighborizer after we already have a flipped town neighborizer

explain why two claimed PRs are both alive on D3 after outing on D1

[GuiltyLion]

Like fire is claiming to have been role blocked in addition to yourself and you are going after me instead of him because you think I'm an easier mislynch than a claimed PR

[GuiltyLion]

The only thing keeping me from voting NH at this point is that Ari is already basically confirmed scum by setup

[Night Hunters]

okay, so either firebringer and another person are scum roleblockers or you are scum. You are convinced that firebringer is town, so which is it? Either you're scum or fire is.
-Dad

[Night Hunters]

titus messaged me on skype and said "vote guiltylion" like ugh >.<
-Dad

[Night Hunters]

If you want us to reconsider we need you to look at the setup as us being town and tell us what you see.
-Dad

[GuiltyLion]

I see two possible worlds:

1. Firebringer is a scum RBer and there's another RBer who has been keeping silent (town or scum, would probably be scum at this point for not speaking up)

This is the world we are in if you are town

2. Firebringer is town JKer, and there's a single scum RBer who is on the same team as you

This is the world we are in if you are scum

Given everyone's play, world 2 is far more appealing to me than world 1. Neither you nor Fire has died. Unless scumteam has two RBers, I can't imagine why this would be the case if you were both town. You're avoiding a wagon on obvscum, who is also townreading you for no apparent reason. You're pushing me instead of Fire, despite Titus calling Fire for scum D1 (with Thor), and Fire almost certainly being scum in a world where you were town.

And now you're just trying to reach out to me since I've highlighted all the problems with your play. It didn't work in HR:HR and it's not gonna work now.