Mini 1770: College Mafia! (Game Ovah)

[Night Hunters]

Those aren't the scenarios. =_=

[Night Hunters]

We are blocked
We could not visit an ascetic as Shadow was not ascetic
Shadow was blocked or visited an ascetic
If GL is town, then we need 2 scum blockers
If GL is scum, we only need one

If you are town, fire is scum (3 blockers not a possibility)
If fire is town, you are ascetic because we are missing a blocker.

[Night Hunters]

You're not analyzing us as town, you're scum #GetFryed
-Dad

[SirCakez]

Or alternatively, you're just scum NH.

[Night Hunters]

[massive]

I am intrigued that as I come in and start a hard push on scum the massive wagon disintegrates and the Cake wagon builds.

Thor comes in, WKs my wagon, and pushes STRONG on Firebringer, which leads me to think Firebringer is most likely town. But Thor makes references throughout D1 about SirCakez, about how (for instance, above) Cakez shouldn't be the counterwagon to my D1 wagon, but Firebringer should be.

He has some late interactions with Cakez after that, but it's almost always in context of the Firebringer push. He waffles about Cakez (eventually putting him to scum on par with FB but doing nothing about it), but abandons it at the beginning of D2 to chase Jeanne.

So I guess I go back and reread Cakez's wagon from D1 and then from there.

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GL:

Why does scum-Aristophanes neighborize scum-NH?

[Dwlee99]

massive, this is multiball so your interactions don't matter except for saying they aren't on thor's team.

[Night Hunters]

massive, this is multiball so your interactions don't matter except for saying they aren't on thor's team.

[massive]

Firebringer could be town or non-Thor scum -- but that doesn't make my observations about SirCakez invalid, does it?

[Night Hunters]

Well yea I just stopped reading when you said someone could be town because of thor and I didn't feel like reading the rest of it. I made similar observations about ari.

[Aeronaut]

VC 3.6

VC 3.6

(With 8 students still enrolled, it's 5 to Lynch!)

- Ohio University (Athens, OH) -

[L-3] Aristophanes -

GuiltyLion, SirCakez
[L-5] Firebringer -

[L-3] GuiltyLion -

Aristophanes, Night Hunters
[L-5] Jeanne11 -
[L-5] massive -

[L-4] Night Hunters -

Jeanne11
[L-5] SirCakez -
[L-5] ɀefiend -

Not Voting

- massive, ɀefiend, Firebringer

Mod Notes:

no escape from reality
[Prodding Jeanne]

Final Exams begin

(expired on 2016-04-02 20:20:32)

[Jeanne11]

I still believe NH is scum. Eventually, they would be buried.

[Night Hunters]

I cri everi tim
-Dad

[Aeronaut]

Prodding Aristophanes, ɀefiend, and Firebringer

[SirCakez]

All of these wagons feel icky to me.
Thinking about voting GL though.

[Jeanne11]

Well, want reason? Here it is. You buried a neighborizer because of your tunnel. >.>

[ɀefiend]

Massive who are you thinking about voting?

[massive]

I don't know, man. So far it feels like all the wagons are based SOLELY on setup speculation and I just can't get behind that. The people on NH+Aristo (so far) haven't given a good answer for why scum-Aristo builds a neighborhood with scum-NH and one other townie. And I feel like NH is putting a lot of faith in Shadowwez's night activities AFTER the fact, but isn't pushing Aristo at all -- despite saying "Aristo / GL are scum," I can't see what in the setup spec makes it more likely that GL is the scum to push. (I would think Aristo in that situation.) And what may be worst is that everyone seems completely OK to let the setup spec do the brunt of the scumhunting, but in the ways that I would totally expect would be reversed.

Where are you leaning?

[Firebringer]

Meh, prod dodge/

[SirCakez]

VOTE: GuiltyLion
If this is town then 99% sure NH is scum.

[ɀefiend]

The shadowez flip makes me lean heavily towards Aristo being scum because I can't see why there would be two town neighborizers. I don't think aristo has directly addressed this or provided an explanation, either.

What I'm failing to understand is why NH can't believe that FB could be scum if FB is lying about his role/who he blocked as scum blocker. Am I missing something or is it not possible where NH and GL are both town?

The same from FB's perspective, he and GL can both be town if NH is inventing his role/results.

[Titus]

@Zefined I get it. I can't explain yet why Ari isn't 100% scum but he probably is.

Fire can be lying scum or town at this point. FMPOV, GL and Fire are opposite alignments. Fire seems really townie while GL does not.

I am having doubts on which of GL or Ari to lynch first given the insane amount of posturing.

Dwelee can you pick this up? I am late for dinner.

[ɀefiend]

Do both of your heads believe this is multi ball? And if so do both of you agree on the final scum?

Speccing multiball makes me paranoid of yall because it seems too desperate to make some of your theories work...

[Titus]

We believe there are two anti-town killers. We are uncertain as to the SK or 2 teams dynamic.

Neither is necessary for our theory, unless you want to argue all three of us (GL, Fire, NH) are town.

[Aristophanes]

I fell asleep reading Thor's Iso last night and haven't been able to finish it yet. It shouldn't take too much longer.

Zeif, I have no clue why there are 2 town neighbourizers, or why one is day and one is night activated, or why there were a different number of people neighbourized by each.
I can only assume it is to cause counterclaims and wine.
I wish there was a better answer for you, but I simply don't have one.