A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[The Pied Piper]

This post is being written by The Pied Piper!

On hydras: would it be possible to sign on top rather than at the bottom?
I tend to read from top to bottom and it would be helpful to know the writer on the first readthrough.

Did I do it right?

They wouldn't mess up like that and do scummy things as town twice in a row then leave thread.

Have you played with town hippyloppy before?

I played with each of them twice as scum. Both times I was in hippy's scum team. Once I was town vs Scum EP and another game I was on a team with the Friendless Seniors hydra.
I have played with both of them as town as well.

Fun fact when I played with Seniors they helped drive a push taking advantage of snarky's play style to drive him to mason claim. They know it is an easy unreliable push.

oh. i haven't played with townhippy yet either except for like 2 hours in hitchcock when i replaced in but I'm not sure "wouldn't do scummy things as town" is an accurate description of his townplay. But I agree that the vote on snarky is bad and that I would expect them to know that naked voting isn't alignment indicative for Snarky and I'd rather see them trying to figure things out before voting like that. You're right that it's a very easy push.

Did I do it right?

No

Oh

[beeboy]

They know it is an easy unreliable push.

Then why aren't they pushing it? A naked vote isn't really pushing.

Why are you defending them so much?
Scum buddies maybe?

Why put a vote on a known lynch bait instead of doing something useful?

[Axelrod]

So, so far, I like Mirhawk, and I like Sir Cakes. I also really like TicTac's first post.

I am not a fan of Sakura, or Davesaz.

@Sakura: (per post #64) did you

really

think that I was advocating for a "policy" lynch of all Hydras? Really?

@Davesaz: please explain to me how you feel I "pulled back" on "the Hydra thing" (post #69). Do you think I am advocating for a policy lynch of all Hydras?

Wrong Lynch is fine

Unvote

. Pied Piper is also fine. Friendless Seniors hasn't done anything.

@Beeboy: when you say you know how Friendless Seniors would react to you, are you talking about one of the hydra heads in particular? Or is this a Hydra that you have played with before? I don't get your conviction given that Seniors hasn't done much of anything.

[beeboy]

@Beeboy: when you say you know how Friendless Seniors would react to you, are you talking about one of the hydra heads in particular? Or is this a Hydra that you have played with before? I don't get your conviction given that Seniors hasn't done much of anything.

I have a reasonable understanding how both would play. Randomly voting a lynch bait and providing no other good content is verrryy verrrrry far from what both would do as town. This is just general but even more truthful in regards to them because they know snarky is lynchbaity.

The delayed reaction to my joke buddy comment is more general and less specific to them.

[Axelrod]

another site a long time ago that no longer exists.

What was the theme/purpose of that site?

It was Misetings. Which started as A Magic the Gathering Humor website. But then they also played Mafia. Sadly, it died. I got there from MTGSalvation, which is another MTG site where we play Mafia games.

[Axelrod]

@Beeboy: when you say you know how Friendless Seniors would react to you, are you talking about one of the hydra heads in particular? Or is this a Hydra that you have played with before? I don't get your conviction given that Seniors hasn't done much of anything.

I have a reasonable understanding how both would play. Randomly voting a lynch bait and providing no other good content is verrryy verrrrry far from what both would do as town. This is just general but even more truthful in regards to them because they know snarky is lynchbaity.

The delayed reaction to my joke buddy comment is more general and less specific to them.

In as much as this is a meta-argument and I have never played with either of those people, I am curious if anyone else who has played with them (Friendless Seniors/hiplop/Errantparabola) agree/disagree with this assessment?

[beeboy]

Why Seniors is scum!

-They ignored my buddy offer.
-1 page later they replied.

What this is telling me is that they are scum and want to avoid looking awkward so they didn't immediately reply to me. They thought about a reply and wanted me to stop attracting attention and posted incredibly late.
I would be scum reading anyone for doing that.

VOTE: snarky

real vote

This is exactly how Snarky plays and it surprises me both you and EP both don't know that.
Considering we just ended a game with him like 3 weeks ago.

Fun fact when I played with Seniors they helped drive a push taking advantage of snarky's play style to drive him to mason claim. They know it is an easy unreliable push that also isn't telling. Even if you don't know this anyone should be able to tell how weak the Snarky vote was regardless of meta and vote Seniors anyway.

[beeboy]

This isn't due to meta, I am using meta to back up my points but this is scummy coming from anyone.


Voting Seniors is a lot more reliable then voting whatever lynch bait that normally gets wagoned day 1.

[tictac]

They know it is an easy unreliable push.

Then why aren't they pushing it?

A naked vote isn't really pushing.

Answer the question.

Why are you defending them so much?

I'm questioning your motives. I don't get why your read on that slot is so strong.

Why put a vote on a known lynch bait instead of doing something useful?

Voting for a scumread is scummy now?

[beeboy]

1) that is part of the problem coasting after doing scummy shot is bad
2) I like to hard push the scumiest the player in the game give me a better option I you don't like it.
3) they didn't justify the read that's the problem

You are defending the scummy slot, good shit.

[beeboy]

Your point 2 and 3 contradict each other btw pushing a scum read isn't scummy what is the potential problem with my motif?

[SirCakez]

Tictac what's your read on Seniors?

[tictac]

1) that is part of the problem coasting after doing scummy shot is bad

You mean scummy vote?

2) I like to hard push the scumiest the player in the game give me a better option I you don't like it.

Not gonna give advice on how to squeeze a townread out of me

3) they didn't justify the read that's the problem

They haven't done anything else either.

You are defending the scummy slot, good shit.

Your point 2 and 3 contradict each other btw pushing a scum read isn't scummy what is the potential problem with my motif?

The problem is that I can't see a convincing thought process behind your pushes.
Your read on Mirhawk is the only reason I'm not currently voting for you. (I agree with you there)

[tictac]

Tictac what's your read on Seniors?

He hasn't done anything so null.

[The Pied Piper]

@Beeboy: when you say you know how Friendless Seniors would react to you, are you talking about one of the hydra heads in particular? Or is this a Hydra that you have played with before? I don't get your conviction given that Seniors hasn't done much of anything.

I have a reasonable understanding how both would play. Randomly voting a lynch bait and providing no other good content is verrryy verrrrry far from what both would do as town. This is just general but even more truthful in regards to them because they know snarky is lynchbaity.

The delayed reaction to my joke buddy comment is more general and less specific to them.

In as much as this is a meta-argument and I have never played with either of those people, I am curious if anyone else who has played with them (Friendless Seniors/hiplop/Errantparabola) agree/disagree with this assessment?

I've been scum together with both hippy and errant and i've been town against scumhippy recently. errant hasn't posted yet i'm pretty sure. I haven't seen hiplop's towngame up close before. I was spectating the game beeboy is talking about, though not very closely; hiplop and errant were hydraing in that one too and they played very well as scum.

The only point i disagree on is that hippy wouldn't be sloppy as town because i'm fairly sure that's not true.

I think beeboy is right that voting for snarky without trying to engage him is scummy, not just sloppy.

I don't get your conviction given that Seniors hasn't done much of anything.

I think that "hasn't done much of anything" is a fine reason to scumread a person. Where's the scumhunting? Where's the poking around for reactions? Do they have any reads? Why aren't they engaging with anybody? He was here for about an hour and he did very little in that time, though he made several posts.

[Spiffeh]

So many quote walls

[beeboy]

1) I meant shit the scummy vote was them coasting the overly safe way to approach my comment was the scummy shit.
2) I wasn't asking for what you look for in town I was telling you if you didn't like my push find me scum
3) I am justifying my read so this shit, I interacted with many players and I have town reads right now. I think I am doing plenty so don't discredit me like that.
4) what part of my read on seniors is fake and scummy?

[beeboy]

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[beeboy]

Tictac what's your read on Seniors?

He hasn't done anything so null.

You can't honestly think that.

[The Pied Piper]

Your read on Mirhawk is the only reason I'm not currently voting for you. (I agree with you there)

Do you believe that scumbeeboy would not be claiming to townread Mirhawk in this game? Why? Who do you think he would fake a read on instead? Do you expect scum to share no reads with you at all?

[SirCakez]

Tictac if your read on them is null I don't understand this defense of them at all. Seniors has done stuff, nothing useful though and the Snarky vote was pretty bad.

[beeboy]

Piper you sound down to frump the trump vote with me

[tictac]

Do you believe that scumbeeboy would not be claiming to townread Mirhawk in this game?

It's possible the he would, but less likely that his read would happen to coincide with mine.
It's a case of thought-sync and that counts as a townpoint for beeboy.

Why? Who do you think he would fake a read on instead?

Dunno.

Do you expect scum to share no reads with you at all?

No I don't expect that

[beeboy]

Tictac what part of my read on seniors is fake and scummy?

[tictac]

Tictac if your read on them is null I don't understand this defense of them at all. Seniors has done stuff, nothing useful though and the Snarky vote was pretty bad.

Can't really question beeboys thought process without questioning it, can I?
Whether Seniors is scum or not is immaterial to whether beeboy has valid reasons to think so.