Mini 1770: College Mafia! (Game Ovah)

[Aeronaut]

VC 3.7

VC 3.7

(With 8 students still enrolled, it's 5 to Lynch!)

- Smith College (Amherst, MA) -

[L-4] Aristophanes -

GuiltyLion
[L-5] Firebringer -

[L-2] GuiltyLion -

Aristophanes, Night Hunters, SirCakez
[L-5] Jeanne11 -
[L-5] massive -

[L-4] Night Hunters -

Jeanne11
[L-5] SirCakez -
[L-5] ɀefiend -

Not Voting

- massive, ɀefiend, Firebringer

Mod Notes:

Open your eyes

Final Exams begin

(expired on 2016-04-02 20:20:32)

[Firebringer]

Aristo and NIght Hunters on this wagon makes me uncomfortable.
>.>

[Night Hunters]

One of firebringer or guilty has to be scum because of the roleblocking stuff.
-Dad

[GuiltyLion]

GL: Why does scum-Aristophanes neighborize scum-NH?

Maybe they don't have day talk? If Fire is town, it would kind of make sense to me to keep him alive in a hood with two scum to make sure they know who's safe to carry out a kill and manipulate him. But this is actually a great point, I feel that a neighborize would be better used on a town player. That's why Ari should be the lynch today as opposed to NH.

As a counterpoint, do you think it's likely that there would be two town neighborizers?

[GuiltyLion]

VOTE: GuiltyLion
If this is town then 99% sure NH is scum.

holy shit this just tanked you on my reads. You're gonna have to give actual reasons for voting me instead of using me as a lynch to try to sort another player.

[Jeanne11]

One of firebringer or guilty has to be scum because of the roleblocking stuff.
-Dad

Okay, fine. You want me to talk to you and when I do, you ignore me. :s

[GuiltyLion]

What I'm failing to understand is why NH can't believe that FB could be scum if FB is lying about his role/who he blocked as scum blocker. Am I missing something or is it not possible where NH and GL are both town?

^This

The fact that NH isn't considering it at all is what bothers me about their play. And they're trying to push me based off ascetic-spec, which I know to be 100% false, instead of lynching Ari, and they started this yesterday before shaddowez flip even happened

[GuiltyLion]

like if I were ascetic scum, I would have just claimed it when shaddowez said he tried to neighborize me

scum!GL gains nothing by lying about not being ascetic, and instead I have 3 people voting me solely because of this

[GuiltyLion]

Ok, totally abusing mod error here.

1) I assumed we were roleblocked given we were an outed tracker and got no result (explicitly).
2) The mod changed our result to Shaddowez went nowhere. This tells me that we were not likely blocked but the mod change was due to error in blocking.

3) The mod then told us again that we got no result. This change back suggests that Shaddowez is an ascetic.

VOTE: Shaddowez

Shaddowez's responses today all suggested someone who knew he wasn't tracked today. First implying I had nothing on him, trying to discredit our result from a place of knowledge. His whole exchange reeks of you have nothing.

He doesn't even vote GL when I make it apparent that the most likelihood is that someone is lying.

He claims vague investigator, somewhat counterclaiming us but never claims the type of investigator.


There is a chance Shaddowez could have just known I was blocked and the mod double fucked up on roleblocker as well.

Either way, right now I'm thinking Jeanne Shaddowez and one of Fire/Ari.

Cakes, do not hammer. Kirroha hammers or he's the lynch tomorrow.

This isn't complicated at all.

There's a hood. It was started by a day neighborizer. When pressured, Shaddowez claimed neighborizer that failed.

For Shadowez and myself to be town, town must have a roleblocker that targeted myself or Shadowez. (Even if you suppose Fire's a lying scumfuck that targeted one of us, you would still need a town roleblocker to block the other). None have come forward.

GL being ascetic with the neighborizer here being scum which nets a two for one in the rare event Shadow does flip town.

Shadow not providing reads is also pretty scummy. He leaves, knowing he's near hammer and just says no reads.

I really suggest everyone read these posts again.

NH is pushing this "ascetic" crap for a second mislynch, and continually laying the seeds to lynch me on it D3 as well.

They repeatedly acknowledge that the other neighborizer is basically confirmed scum, but won't join the Ari wagon today and is instead pushing a mislynch on me. To me it looks transparently planned.

[GuiltyLion]

explain how I am more scum than a neighborizer after we already have a flipped town neighborizer

I want this question answered by anyone voting me (except Aristo, obviously)

voting me is basically a scumclaim

[Night Hunters]

One of firebringer or guilty has to be scum because of the roleblocking stuff.
-Dad

Okay, fine. You want me to talk to you and when I do, you ignore me. :s

wait what I didnt see you want to talk to me lol
-Dad

[ɀefiend]

Aristo and NIght Hunters on this wagon makes me uncomfortable.
>.>

Unless you think there's 3 roleblockers (which could explain you, GL, and NH all being town), then fypov either Aristo and NH are scum or one of them is bussing GL. So then would you rather lynch a claimed tracker or a claimed neighborizer, considering that a town neighborizer has already died? In either case you should be voting Aristophanes, unless you can explain how he's town.

[SirCakez]

There has to be at least one scum between GL, Fire and NH. I'm townreading Fire and NH more then you :/

[GuiltyLion]

@SirCakez

From where I'm sitting I see two mislynches on PRs, along with a Fire push in tandem with scum!Thor, and a push on me based off of nothing but claims about setup spec that are tied fundamentally to their own claim.

And that looks town to you

also, answer the question about Ari

[massive]

There's an awful lot of "you should be voting Aristo" goin' on, and not a whole lot of actual voting for him.

As a counterpoint, do you think it's likely that there would be two town neighborizers?

I don't, so I guess I'm

VOTE: Aristophanes

[Firebringer]

One of firebringer or guilty has to be scum because of the roleblocking stuff.
-Dad

Tired of hearing this:
Sorry Aristophanes, love playing with you, but your starting to display your lurk meta as scum >.>
VOTE: Aristophanes

[SirCakez]

GL - yeah. If Fire is scum, he's SK and if they are town, then obviously they'd believe their own claim and push you from it, so yeah looks town to me.
I still think Ari is scum, but there must have been at least one scum voting him earlier (GL, Fire and NH were all voting him) which is what I was wary of. And I doubt he would be SK with the neighborizer claim.

[Firebringer]

GL - yeah. If Fire is scum, he's SK and if they are town, then obviously they'd believe their own claim and push you from it, so yeah looks town to me.
I still think Ari is scum, but there must have been at least one scum voting him earlier (GL, Fire and NH were all voting him) which is what I was wary of. And I doubt he would be SK with the neighborizer claim.

I can't follow any of this.
Care to try again?

[Dwlee99]

he is saying there is scum on the ari wagon

[Night Hunters]

he is saying there is scum on the ari wagon

[ɀefiend]

Gonna ISO everyone and post my thoughts later. Why's this game so quiet right now?

[SirCakez]

Wow this game went dead for nearly two days, damn.
I'm willing to lynch Aristo today if necessary.

[SirCakez]

Aristo should fullclaim with flavor I think.

[GuiltyLion]

Aristo should fullclaim with flavor I think.

Would this change your read? What new information does this bring?

I think the game is stalling because scum is avoiding the Aristo wagon. If he were town he'd be (mis)lynched by now. His role is literally a counterclaim to a flipped town role.

[Aeronaut]

prodding Aristophanes.