A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[pistachi0n]

I'll townread Ami for now since she says it was a gambit for reaction-testing.

I agree Mirhawk's reaction was scummy, but one thing I notice along with it was Mirhawk's reaction when I first claimed miller--"ugh" followed by "I had a bad experience." So the combination of those posts makes me think he just doesn't want to play with a miller. Mirhawk--what was your experience and how has it shaped how you play the game?

I'm going back to beeboy for now, though.

VOTE: beeboy

[beeboy]

I can't imagine me being any less obv town then this.

[beeboy]

Also you have like 6 posts so I'd like you to explain your read now.

I hope you have a good reason because it would be very easy to fabricate a read on a player that has 150/552 posts.

[beeboy]

VOTE: pist

Now that I think about it, pist has 6 posts was under major pressure and came in when he was being pushed and is now trying to coast again.

I see obv scum.

[pistachi0n]

I didn't come in when I was being pushed. I claimed miller in my first post because that's what millers do. Then I got pushed.

[beeboy]

I still want actual scum hunting from your slot which you STILL haven't delivered on.

[pistachi0n]

It's a 21 player game, so yeah, there's lots of noise. I'm wondering if you're spamming out and using that as a defense.

[Tammy]

Tammy have you read the entire thread?

No, I'm on post 156.

[beeboy]

I want actual scum hunting I don't know how that makes me scummy for asking you something incredibly simple to do.
Why are you being so stubborn about this?

[beeboy]

EBWOP: @pist

[pistachi0n]

Ok, I have an issue with your seniors wagon.

Your original case on him was based off of some RVS stuff, this is a big game so we get lots of new posts fast, I don't think them initially not saying anything is indicative of anything. It was a pretty far reach. Then you kept trying to get people to vote seniors and...that RVS stuff was still your main case. Later you called them evasive and said they were doing things to not stand out, but I don't see any of that from them, like, even a little bit.

[Tammy]

Tictac what part of my read on seniors is fake and scummy?

The part where you have a strong read on a slot that hasn't done anything.
How is this difficult to get?

Tictac you're just completely disregarding that Seniors has done things to get reads from and going, "he's null, Beeboy's push is bad!!!"
Which isn't true.

What about beeboy's push is good.

How serious do you think their snarky vote was?

[Tammy]

I mean I get that they said "real vote" when they voted, but snarky also voted for them, but how serious do you actually believe their vote was?

[Tammy]

True Ogre's entrance post is pretty balls.
Withholding vote is fine, ESPECIALLY not after beeboy tells him to vote us and then ogre does.
Look at how terrible withholding vote is there. Ogre OPENLY admits to being unsure of people that they want to sort, that they are considering to maybe be scum, and then just... doesn't vote. nope.
"I will entertain Sakura argument" is basically saying "I don't want to commit yet (which is fine) but i'm not gonna do anything about it (which isn't fine)"
"keeping an eye on axelrod" uh huh.

Can you put this into English though?

What's wrong with him not voting?

[Tammy]

This is scum seniors don't lie. No one sits around for 1 hour and makes a naked shot vote

I do.

[beeboy]

This is scum seniors don't lie. No one sits around for 1 hour and makes a naked shot vote

I do.

If it was normal coming from them they would have defended themselves instead of the point linger.

Why defend them like this? It isn't constructive at all.

[Tammy]

This is scum seniors don't lie. No one sits around for 1 hour and makes a naked shot vote

I do.

If it was normal coming from them they would have defended themselves instead of the point linger.

Why defend them like this? It isn't constructive at all.

You're making a generalized statement about how no one behaves. It's part of why I can't take your read seriously and I've been expecting that it's just a reaction gathering/designed to look like you really believe strongly about something. You've made sweepings statements about how town/scum behave, not just about seniors but in your talk with sakura. Either you really haven't played that many games and you're trying sound knowledgeable or you're full of shit.

It's not about defending them; it's about pointing out that you're arguments aren't sound. You want to make it sound like you can read them, but then you make these types of statements that I know are not true by any objective stance. It weakens it, isn't constructive, and doesn't inspire trust in your ability to read the game or them.

[podoboq]

So obviously off on this
UNVOTE:
Back on this
VOTE: Friendless Seniors

[beeboy]

Unless you are aspiring to vote me what I am saying is only interacting with me for the first 200 paes of the game is pretty unconstructive.
If that is the case I find it weird you haven't voted me yet.

By discrediting my ability to read people and my seniors arguments you are defending them no matter how you try and spin it.

[beeboy]

EBWOP: @Tammy

I just find all your catch up incredibly underwhelming.

[True Ogre]

Tammy is looking town to me.
I don't think I'll be scumreading beeboy anytime soon though.

Seniors I believe is still a good vote despite podo's strange movement and trajectory.
podo I'm a bit confused here. Can you state your Seniors scumread in a sentence or two?

So, I went to look closer at FS and, yeah, this is a truly horrendous series of posts.

I did not like this post at all. Seniors was already being pressured in many ways and to me, what you've done here is switch your trajectory and make a stong post justifying it. Too much.

In your own words and also in a couple of sentences, please sum up why Seniors is scum in this game.

[Tammy]

EBWOP: @Tammy

I just find all your catch up incredibly underwhelming.

color me unsurprised you'd find my questioning you underwhelming.

[beeboy]

EBWOP: @Tammy

I just find all your catch up incredibly underwhelming.

color me unsurprised you'd find my questioning you underwhelming.

At least we are on the same page about finding each other underwhelming

[True Ogre]

EBWOP: @Tammy

I just find all your catch up incredibly underwhelming.

Hm. I disagree and liked the cross-questiong of both you and Seniors.
I don't see why scum-her would play both sides.

[Tammy]

Unless you are aspiring to vote me what I am saying is only interacting with me for the first 200 paes of the game is pretty unconstructive.
If that is the case I find it weird you haven't voted me yet.

By discrediting my ability to read people and my seniors arguments you are defending them no matter how you try and spin it.

If by pointing out that your over generalizations are over generalized, not helpful, or convincing in any way, then sure I'm defending them. I look at it at looking past that and trying to figure out the actual read.

If your case is based on being able to read them really well then the overgeneralized stuff is not necessary and I need to cut through stuff I don't buy into to see something that makes sense.