A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[The Pied Piper]

which was defcon 5, for the record

[Tammy]

I tried to find an appropriate gif which had someone sticking their tongue out and folding their arms in front of them in frustration at your silliness, but all I could find was weird tongue stuff.

So *tonguewag which sounds like a raspberry while I fold my arms and stomp my feet at you*

[True Ogre]

@True Ogre

Are you feigning an inability to tell us apart in order to keep your main a secret, or for some other reason? I'm not interested in outing you but I do know who you are.

Feigning? Hmmmgrrrhmmmm.

[True Ogre]

Sign your posts and the problem ceases to exist.

[The Pied Piper]

I don't believe that you don't know who wrote the most recent longer post.

[The Pied Piper]

But I'm willing to drop it.

[True Ogre]

Post like 582 don't come from Nacho but are Plotinus' bread and butter.
However if Nacho would like to trollfuck the game out with his funtimes pretending to be his partner he's welcome to alienate me. I have an idea of who's writing what but unless each of you want to take credit for what you post I'm going to have a hard time reading you.

I'm also willing to drop it. What are your thoughts on Axel?

[Tammy]

If you can't tell a hydra's posts apart then you don't need to in order to read them because you probably don't know them as well as you think you do.

[The Pied Piper]

Post like 582 don't come from Nacho but are Plotinus' bread and butter.

Yeah, that was me, and 604 onward is me again.

However if Nacho would like to trollfuck the game out with his funtimes pretending to be his partner he's welcome to alienate me. I have an idea of who's writing what but unless each of you want to take credit for what you post I'm going to have a hard time reading you.

He hasn't yet. I'd like to see him try though because I think I'd learn something about myself or how others see me if he did, if that makes sense. I have no idea how I come across most of the time.

I'm also willing to drop it. What are your thoughts on Axel?

I liked the big musical splashy entrance because it reminds me of anti's thing where he quotes song lyrics at the beginning of games and that was cool. I didn't like him getting bogged down in talking about hydrae in place of scumhunting but once he started scumhunting I was pleased.

I think he's on the wrong side of Mirhawk vs davesaz, but it's understandable because part of their argument was about him and Mirhawk was defending Axel from davesaz.

I can understand his points against Seniors and I like that when he lends his voice to beeboy's push, he does it with his own points instead of just signal boosting things that have already been said, though as I said, I'd like to give Seniors a bit of space to see what they do with it.

I don't think Axelrod makes sense as being scum together with Mirhawk or Seniors or Swordsworth (who nobody seems to be pushing at all in spite of his lacklustre posting).

[The Pied Piper]

Also, thank you, that answered my question.

[Tammy]

Also I still want that slot to explain the Snarky vote because they are dodging that.

ATM scum reads of varying degrees on Tictac, Seniors, Ogre, and Beeboy.

"scumread on the people beeboy is pushing AND beeboy"

this guy is fencesitting, stirring the pot and trying to get momentum on our wagon for seriously shoddy reasons.

VOTE: sircakez
sorry ep, this is the guy who needs to die

Eh.

(And I don't even like sircakez that much.)

[Tammy]

Oh heh first post I was going to make a rebuttal to then realized I was wrong about, so discount that first one.

[Tammy]

Tictac if your read on them is null I don't understand this defense of them at all. Seniors has done stuff, nothing useful though and the Snarky vote was pretty bad.

Tictac what's your read on Seniors?

Snarky is lynchbait so Beeboy's argument about Seniors pushing Snarky being a scum move does hold weight. Thus why I am still voting them.

Don't like Beeboy's flipflop on Sakura. Felt like there was no dedication or serious belief in it with how fast he got on and off.
Seniors's Snarky vote is bad as well. Not enough to justify it and Snarky is definitely not someone you get a serious scumread on from one post.

VOTE: Friendless Seniors

Why not vote anyone in your entrance then immediately sheep Beeboy onto Seniors?

These stances make no sense. Like, he is basically scumreading anyone making any sort of impact in the game. This is a super opportunistic position in the game and needs to be lynched.

[Tammy]

@cakes
What do you mean fence sitting? Fence sitting is when I don't take a stance on a popular wagon with lots of info. Sakura isnt a popular wagon nor is there any solid alignment indicative posts from her yet.

Yes a lot of my posts are about Seniors but that is a fallacy because of my post count
.

Since when is that fence sitting?
You're waffling everywhere on Sakura.

Why is waffling a problem?

[Tammy]

I haven't seen millers immediately claim flavor in games I've played with them, so I'll follow suit. You'll know when it's relevant. Or when I'm dead, whatever comes first.

I agree with the request for a flavor claim.

[Tammy]

Oh I have you're right derp
But she did wait to claim miller until like day 4 which is super shifty in itself
I don't think I've seen scum claim miller day 1 before

Bert in mafia with a quickness
VI can't remember his name in a cartoon themed game? My Little Pony some time back.

Two I know of off the top of my head.

Flavor claim would help if we have a flavor cop around. Miller claim won't help for cops, but could help for flavor cops.

[Tammy]

sircakez - I would love to hear who your biggest scum read is and why without using the phrases fencesit or waffle. gogogoogogogogogogogogoogogoogogogoogogogogoogogogogoogoooo

[Tammy]

dramonic vote for PP w/ me please

Dram no vote with me.

If either of you can provide me with a good reason to ignore obvscum Axel, then sure?

Why's axel scum again?

[Tammy]

My reservations were to do with his push on Sakura who I was not reading as scum. I did not expect him to back off so quickly but when he did I was more inclined to read him as town, as scum-beeboy had no reason to back off unless he was town and open to changing reads. Thus the sheep. Along with my own read on Seniors anyway.

That's not what I'm referring to.
I'm referring to how you said "I'm withholding my vote for now" then immediately voted in your next post.

Why is this problematic?

And can people stop acting like shit is scummy that isn't, you're making my head explode.

[Tammy]

As far as other folks go then, I'd be delighted for you to nominate a person to have a take on, otherwise what do you think of the Nacho/Plot hydra? I like Nacho's follow-ups but don't feel like I could read Plotinus if my life depended on it.

I can pretty much grab scum-nacho pretty well. last few games we played before our break I was able to spot him pretty early on, plus then there's tammy who can also spot him fairly easy tooo. I also can't read Ploti so!

~M

I already asked but why did you say you saw nothing out of the ordinary for nacho when sakura wanted to sort him early when what he posted early was absolutely alignment non-indicative for him?

[Tammy]

Alright, so far I haven't seen anything out of place for Nacho. So I'm unsure why you're focusing him for a sort so early on. Also then there's the fact Ploti is in that hydra too.

What do you mean about me? Do you mean that Sakura should be trying to sort us based on my posting or something else?

Seniors is policy tho.

Only scum wouldn't buddy up with me because I always hit scum when I wagon someone.
Seniors know this and should have accepted my hand in friendship but they don't want to be forced to bus.

I don't really know why, but this made me laugh.

Doesn't it remind you kind of my early push on Persivul in our last game? Beeboy's point makes about as much sense to me as my points against Persivul made to myself in that game.


Mirhawk could be town. I like the kinds of questions they're asking. Feels like genuine scumhunting.

I kinda screwed up tags.

I think I need to go back and skim a quick Sakura game. I /may/ have forgotten how she plays. I just think it's odd that she's going to sort Nacho part of your hydra, but it doesn't seem like she has engaged him /yet/. It's also odd how she's not really going to sort you because she has two parts of the hydra to get an easier read on you both. It's just really odd and I'm not sure why it bothers me so much. I don't know why, but her playstyle is reminding me a mixture of three other players into one.

It kinda does. I already made a comment to GM about beeboy's posts have been bugging me, but she told me it's normal beeboy so I think I'm going to wait and see how this goes.

I also was early reading Mirhawk, but the last three pages erased that townread plus GM was saying that Mirhawk's posts weren't sitting with her right.

~M

I feel like I'm harping here, but I really want you to explain *why* it's odd she wants to sort nacho. Has there been something of nacho's he's posted so far that she should have interacted with him about? Why do you find it odd she might not be trying to sort plot?

(Also, she has addressed nacho, though iirc she mistook plot for nacho. I could be wrong in that, it's late)

[Tammy]

Unvote
Vote: Pistachio

Eh, what the hell.

VOTE: Mirhawk

Going to vote and then talk to GM about it. If she feels differently we will certainly change our vote, but I am frankly starting to see not-town here.

I'm not sure how if she doesn't believe that Ami cc'd, but is willing to jump onto the building train that was happening that early page on.

I'm certainly a lot more sure of Mirhawk being scum than I was when I was reading early yesterday.

~M

I am revoking my town read on you.

go fur it. I don't care.

Just because my read doesn't agree with yours doesn't make me scum.

~M

I have a huge problem with you you saying you where scum reading him yesterday when that post above is the only thing that indicated you had a scum read on mirhawk. It is a blatant scum tell to pull stuff like that to justify your vote and it really bothers me which is why I have trouble seeing you flip town this game.

Nope, GM and I were discussing reads. I had a slight town read off pages 1-5 from Mirhawk, but I said I was holding off before saying it in thread and GM said she disagreed with me on it.

I think you're misrepping me pretty bad though. I am not fabricating my scum read on him. My read changed from early pages to his current posting so I'm failing to see how I'm justifying my read on him when it obviously changed from when I caught up after work and when I went to bed yesterday. I haven't had time to talk to GM today so I'm not sure if she's caught up or where she stands.

~M[/quote]

Where did the misreported occur?

[Tammy]

*misrepping

[Tammy]

Because obviously you voted after the CC when the wagon was growing.
Then shortly after you said you wanted her to CC, but was still voting. It felt as if you were leaving your options open which is a hugeeeeeee fencesit.

~M

I'm sorry for spamming people.

And Mala you are making me so unhappy right now.

[tictac]

V/LA until Tuesday