A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[THE WRONG WAGON]

You already said it yourself that you're harping on the subject. So I fail to see how I'm exaggerating anything.

Like I already answeeeed it all, but not sure what you're expecting me to say that's different than the other few times I explained it.

As I said it felt out of place for Sakura, but I already admitted that I haven't played with her in a while? Idk sometime last summer if that?? Like it felt our of place for her to focus on nacho, but that's something I'd expect like Notty to do, or Mollie.

As for nacho I still fail to see why this is such a big deal. If he made a post that was alignment indicative I would have said it, but he didn't

[Tammy]

You already said it yourself that you're harping on the subject. So I fail to see how I'm exaggerating anything.

Like I already answeeeed it all, but not sure what you're expecting me to say that's different than the other few times I explained it.

As I said it felt out of place for Sakura, but I already admitted that I haven't played with her in a while? Idk sometime last summer if that?? Like it felt our of place for her to focus on nacho, but that's something I'd expect like Notty to do, or Mollie.

As for nacho I still fail to see why this is such a big deal. If he made a post that was alignment indicative I would have said it, but he didn't

I feel like I'm harping because it's a sticking point for me and I asked you twice about it. Trying to understand why on something is not making a really big deal out of it just like someone perhaps misinterpreting you is not a really big misrep.

Where were the few times you explained it? Pretty sure you answered and I responded. I haven't played much with Sakura either, but her wanting to sort nacho right away is standard. If you haven't played with someone I don't know why it would even spark your notice. Furthermore, you pointing out that nothing was out of the ordinary when he hadn't posted beyond a couple rvs posts feels off.

Right now my concern is that you are either scum with nacho and you did some early discrediting to stop someone from sorting him or you're scum trying to get on his good side.

You being exaggerative when people question you doesn't help that concern.

[Tammy]

I eagerly await your omgus and further exaggerations though!

[Amihan]

I want to prioritize trying to read the hydras but it's so much harder than it seems at first. :/

I like The Wrong Lynch because it's like they're saying exactly what I'm thinking about Mirhawk, but in a more understandable and experienced way. If that's naive of me you can say it but so far that's the only hydra I think I'm actually connecting with.

[Tammy]

Sorry for any excessively delayed responses, I'm currently out of town.

Just reading over everything that's happened, I'd like Ami to clarify themself on what exactly they're trying to say pertaining to Pistachio's Miller claim. Is it a CC? A hinting at it? Just trying to see how people react?

My current scumreads at this time would probably be somewhere in the block of Hiplop, Cakez, and Beeboy. I have a question for you three: What if Pistachio is shot and flips town? What does this suggest about Ami, and would that warrant an instant vote?

@the late RVS matter, I can only be around early morning and laaate evening for this week. Sorry about that.

What I didn't like about the post was explaining why he wasn't in rvs and apologizing for it.

[Amihan]

Tammy are you ignoring my posts? I think it's fair to say that what I pulled has been a fairly significant center of content (meaning that it's generated a lot of what's happened lately) but you seem to just be playing around the Miller discussion, in the sense that you're making reads around players who talk about it without addressing what you think about any of pistachion, Mirhawk, or me. Do you not have any read on Mirhawk or are you withholding that?

[Amihan]

I should have asked, are you purposefully ignoring discussion based around the Miller claim, fakeclaim, and reactions?

[Amihan]

I'm not offended not that I have a right to be, I'm honestly just curious as to why your focuses are what they are.

[Tammy]

I don't really care abut the miller claim and counter claim thing right now. I'm sure I'll go back to it at some point though!

[Rob14]

Vote Count #1.9:

Mirhawk:

davesaz, Amihan, THE WRONG LYNCH, SirCakez, The Pied Piper (5)

Friendless Seniors:

SnarkySnowman, True Ogre, Axelrod, podoboq (4)

pistachi0n:

Sakura Hana, tictac (2)

The Pied Piper:

Tammy, millar13 (2)

SirCakez:

Skybird, Swordsworth (2)

Axelrod:

dramonic (1)

beeboy:

pistachi0n (1)

Swordsworth:

Spiffeh (1)

pistachi0n:

beeboy (1)

davesaz:

Mirhawk (1)

podoboq:

Friendless Seniors (1)

Not Voting:

None.

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

V/LA:

Sakura Hana until 3/28.
tictac until 3/29.
Swordsworth until 3/30.
Amihan until 4/1.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-04-06 21:00:00)

[Amihan]

Fair answer.

I think I'm just curious because I want to be townread by more people so I don't have to scumhunt as "aggressively" this time.

[Amihan]

Amihan until 4/1.

Oh just so everyone knows, I am more limited access than fully away from the site right now. I'm still trying to post but this is because I can't guarantee 48 hour activity for a few days.

Why do people think Friendless Seniors are scum? Why is the wagon there? I've seen nothing other than beeboy being loud and posty.

[beeboy]

VOTE: seniors

Oops

[Tammy]

That's an adorable post. I was leaning town on you from the counterclaim though! Just didn't really care about the rest right now.

To amihan.

[SirCakez]

My reservations were to do with his push on Sakura who I was not reading as scum. I did not expect him to back off so quickly but when he did I was more inclined to read him as town, as scum-beeboy had no reason to back off unless he was town and open to changing reads. Thus the sheep. Along with my own read on Seniors anyway.

That's not what I'm referring to.
I'm referring to how you said "I'm withholding my vote for now" then immediately voted in your next post.

Why is this problematic?

And can people stop acting like shit is scummy that isn't, you're making my head explode.

It's backtracking. Why even say that in the first place if he was going to dump a vote two posts later?

You're positing his big scum plan was to say he wasn't putting a vote down and then 8 minutes later coming back to the thread and voting?

How is that even backtracking? Why does that make him scum?

No I'm saying it looks like trying to blend in after realizing his initial "not voting" thing sucked. And that I'd backtracking.
I've completed like 10 or so games onsite now? That's just a guess from memory. I've also played like 20 off site.

You think he, as scum, purposefully said he wasn't voting, didn't realize it at the time, posted then a few minutes later went shit I should blend in? You actually think that's a thought process someone has? I still don't get why it's backtracking. Why is no voting shitty in the first place and why can't he have simply changed his mind?

You have more than five games to your repertoire and you're actually trying to argue the waffling is a scum tell thing?

No he obviously did realize it, and then decided it looked bad and backtracked on it two posts later. Yeah that's a thought process people have, I've done it before as scum.
No voting there sucks because there was definitely enough to make scumreads from at that point. He didn't say anything about changing his mind until prodded pages later, he just naked voted.
Yeah I am

[SirCakez]

Yo so I think Podo is town because his posts are actually good and Seniors is tunneling him for bad reasons.

[Skybird]

Fair answer.

I think I'm just curious because I want to be townread by more people so I don't have to scumhunt as "aggressively" this time.

What does this mean Ami? Why do you put aggressively in quotes?

[beeboy]

VOTE: Swords

I am wheeling spiffy until I get more motivated.

[davesaz]

Skybird, are you caught up? Any reads?

[Amihan]

Fair answer.

I think I'm just curious because I want to be townread by more people so I don't have to scumhunt as "aggressively" this time.

What does this mean Ami? Why do you put aggressively in quotes?

In most of the games I've played here people tend to just call me aggressive, townread me, and then ignore me afterward.

[Skybird]

Fair answer.

I think I'm just curious because I want to be townread by more people so I don't have to scumhunt as "aggressively" this time.

What does this mean Ami? Why do you put aggressively in quotes?

In most of the games I've played here people tend to just call me aggressive, townread me, and then ignore me afterward.

So you want to be townread so you don't have to scum hunt? I'm struggling to understand your statement in 685 because it looks like you don't want to scum hunt. Your reply in 694 isn't helping me.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

I eagerly await your omgus and further exaggerations though!

I have so many problems with this.

So many problems.

I don't really know if I can articulate them well, but they boil down to: 1. we are not omgusing by any stretch of the imagination and to use a phrase both inflammatory and inaccurate to describe our play is Not Good; 2. you are acting like you've never played with Mala before which is not even slightly the case.

I'm not going to pretend I have a very good handle on your play, because I don't, but it's problematic to me that you seem to be pressing your advantage like you're on the other side of the net.

Fair answer.

I think I'm just curious because I want to be townread by more people so I don't have to scumhunt as "aggressively" this time.

This post, on the other hand, I have zero problems with.

(Also, to explain why I personally have zero problems with the Seniors wagon: they are acting exactly like they acted as Scum in a game a lot of us just got done with.)

~gm

[Skybird]

Skybird, are you caught up? Any reads?

Yeah, I'm starting to do ISO's now to further my reads but right now here's where I am:

My strongest townread is Tammy. I'm feeling pretty confident she is town. Spiffah is also pretty town.

I'm leaning town on Dramonic. He's playing like he did in the last game I was in with him. I'm also leaning town on you.

I'm not sure about Beeboy. He's making a lot of noise and I don't see his push on FS. But maybe I'm missing something that FS has did that makes him scummy. FS is on my ISO list.

I'm trying to sort Ami right at the moment. I didn't like her statement in 685 because it sounds like she doesn't want to scum hunt.

I have a lot of null reads because they haven't posted or what they posted didn't make a big impression on me.

p-edit: TWL, what am I missing? Ami's post struck me as weird. Why does it not bother you?

[podoboq]

Fair answer.

I think I'm just curious because I want to be townread by more people so I don't have to scumhunt as "aggressively" this time.

Not scumreading this. I just got out of a game with Ami where she had to play incredibly aggressively because she replaced into the craziest scummiest slot. She had to play hard because we had reason to scumread her.

If she wants to be able to lay back a little bit and relax more through this game, that totally makes sense to me.

[Tammy]

I eagerly await your omgus and further exaggerations though!

I have so many problems with this.

So many problems.

I don't really know if I can articulate them well, but they boil down to: 1. we are not omgusing by any stretch of the imagination and to use a phrase both inflammatory and inaccurate to describe our play is Not Good; 2. you are acting like you've never played with Mala before which is not even slightly the case.

I'm not going to pretend I have a very good handle on your play, because I don't, but it's problematic to me that you seem to be pressing your advantage like you're on the other side of the net.

How's this again? My response was a bit snarky sure, but considering you haven't omgus'd I wasn't describing your play up until that point but was a bit venting my frustration with mala's response and what felt like to me I'd get in response. I don't think that my questions to her were rude in any way. This is a mafia game after all, but what I do get from you guys, even here whoa with the exaggerations batman, is expressions that I should understand something that was not clear or I wouldn't have asked and a claim that I'm making a "really big deal" out of something I asked a couple questions about and was trying to understand.

Where am I acting like I haven't played with Mala again?

I don't play volleyball there sorry champ care to suggest a game I do play? Or slow it down on the sugar or caffeine or whatever is causing this hyperbole station?