Micro 596: Longnight Mafia [GAME OVER]

[PantherPunt]

PantherPunt stop scumreading everyone who tries to case you

I'm calling out what appear to be scumreads that lack an explanation. Am I not supposed to do that as a townie? I'm just playing to win

[PantherPunt]

You aren't aggressive. You're more just trying to get serious very early on and produce a lot of content. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

Also, yes you're flailing. Responding to anyone who makes a case so seriously with a ton of words is flailing.

Trollie called em aggressive. I was responding to that.
I hate RVS and it doesn't seem very smart in a game where it's two votes to hammer.
Sounds like you're saying to have a problem with my playstyle more than anything.

[Killthestory]

RVS in a game like this is silly. I'll concede there.

However, it's not playstyle. It's the way your trying to respond to everybody, and every single accusation that makes you flailing. Some of your posts have a REALLY bad tone to them like you're getting really desperate as fuck.

[This is my username]

PantherPunt stop scumreading everyone who tries to case you

I'm calling out what appear to be scumreads that lack an explanation. Am I not supposed to do that as a townie? I'm just playing to win

If you want explanation ask for it, it worked with Trollie. It's not a good way to scumread someone.

You aren't aggressive. You're more just trying to get serious very early on and produce a lot of content. Unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

Also, yes you're flailing. Responding to anyone who makes a case so seriously with a ton of words is flailing.

Trollie called em aggressive. I was responding to that.
I hate RVS and it doesn't seem very smart in a game where it's two votes to hammer.
Sounds like you're saying to have a problem with my playstyle more than anything.

Does it not seem very smart because it worked to create discussion and catch a scum?

[PantherPunt]

TIMU is being too reckless for scum

Scum in general needs to be careful. He doesn't need to base his case just on my scumplay.

ding ding ding

Trollie- you said mafia wouldn't want to be reckless and would want to be careful.
You say I'm responding to anything and being aggressive.
By your own logic, aren't I defying the behavior you characterize as scum like?

[Killthestory]

ohohoho get fucked kid

[This is my username]

Aggressiveness =/= Recklessness

[Killthestory]

ohohoho get fucked kid

[PantherPunt]

RVS in a game like this is silly. I'll concede there.

However, it's not playstyle. It's the way your trying to respond to everybody, and every single accusation that makes you flailing.

Some of your posts

have a REALLY bad tone to them like you're getting really desperate as fuck.

Point em out point em out point em out.

I'm responding to what I feel is relevant to respond to. Because this is a unique setup that is based on a townie in a group feeling confident they found the other townie in their group. Or feeling confident they found the scum. I think all of my responses are helping me to make those determinations and hopefully everyone else as well.

[PantherPunt]

Aggressiveness =/= Recklessness

In terms of the argument at hand, it's the same-conceptually.

The argument being made was that scum would want to blend in and not be in the spotlight by being confrontational or saying things that would illicit strong reactions or critique. Aggressive and reckless are in the same vein when you're framing this argument imo

[Killthestory]

RVS in a game like this is silly. I'll concede there.

However, it's not playstyle. It's the way your trying to respond to everybody, and every single accusation that makes you flailing.

Some of your posts

have a REALLY bad tone to them like you're getting really desperate as fuck.

Point em out point em out point em out.

I'm responding to what I feel is relevant to respond to. Because this is a unique setup that is based on a townie in a group feeling confident they found the other townie in their group. Or feeling confident they found the scum. I think all of my responses are helping me to make those determinations and hopefully everyone else as well.

You're not responding to what's relevant. You're responding to everyone.

[This is my username]

The argument being made was that scum would want to blend in and not be in the spotlight by being confrontational or saying things that would illicit strong reactions or critique. Aggressive and reckless are in the same vein when you're framing this argument imo

The heat was

on you

. Every initial response to the cases against you was defensive and accusative, A.K.A. aggressive. It wasn't recklessness, however, because what better way to get heat off of you than to case the person casing you? It gives you an easy lynch and a free defense, without really defending yourself at all!

Meanwhile, being reckless would be something like you casing someone on page one without any outside influence pressing you to do so.

[Postie]

Anyway Postie, RVS is a time of silliness. Getting overtly defensive over a silly vote is extremely scummy for reasons I'm assuming you don't need to know. If you need to know, just ask again.

Oh, I see what you mean. Reading it again, I don't think it was defensive though, and could have been a genuine attempt to pressure to TiMU to move the game out of RVS. I will agree that how defensive he's been in some other places has been a little overblown, although I don't think that defensiveness in response to pressure is a scumtell in itself.

@PantherPunt

- Do you have some past scumgames you can link me to?

Town games are easy to find so I'll dig some up myself when I have the time.
What I'm trying to figure out is if PP naturally a more erratic player or if he's been acting erratic because he has something to hide.

[PantherPunt]

The argument being made was that scum would want to blend in and not be in the spotlight by being confrontational or saying things that would illicit strong reactions or critique. Aggressive and reckless are in the same vein when you're framing this argument imo

The heat was

on you

. Every initial response to the cases against you was defensive and accusative, A.K.A. aggressive. It wasn't recklessness, however, because what better way to get heat off of you than to case the person casing you? I

t gives you an easy lynch and a free defense, without really defending yourself at all!

Meanwhile, being reckless would be something like you casing someone on page one without any outside influence pressing you to do so.

The heat wasn't on me. Your vote was "mostly random" and didn't have a case.

I

put the heat on

you

. That was the first bit of heat. I defended myself from weak arguments and questioned the motive of said arguments. That's just good town play. Ps, the underlined makes no sense to me--i don't see how it gives an easy lynch. And you just said I was being defensive but then said I didn't really defend myself at all. ??

[PantherPunt]

Postie- haven't randed scum yet on this site but I'll link you offsite scum and town if that's allowed here. I'm used to shorter phases where I'm from and typically post 50-100 times per RL day there. So it's always a bit of adapting to play here- and people seem to be put off by it

[Killthestory]

Anyway Postie, RVS is a time of silliness. Getting overtly defensive over a silly vote is extremely scummy for reasons I'm assuming you don't need to know. If you need to know, just ask again.

Oh, I see what you mean. Reading it again, I don't think it was defensive though, and could have been a genuine attempt to pressure to TiMU to move the game out of RVS. I will agree that how defensive he's been in some other places has been a little overblown, although I don't think that defensiveness in response to pressure is a scumtell in itself.

@PantherPunt

- Do you have some past scumgames you can link me to?

Town games are easy to find so I'll dig some up myself when I have the time.
What I'm trying to figure out is if PP naturally a more erratic player or if he's been acting erratic because he has something to hide.

I'm actually agreeing with you here. It's understandable your position, but his tone just feels so off to me.

[Postie]

Postie- haven't randed scum yet on this site but I'll link you offsite scum and town if that's allowed here.

I think that's allowed. I've seen other players do it before as well.

Thanks!

[TheTrollie]

PantherPunt stop scumreading everyone who tries to case you

Aggressiveness =/= Recklessness

I think I'm in love

[TheTrollie]

I'd like more from Rhager. got a solid town read on postie still

[Ranger]

how do you read this shit?

By guessing.

{This is my username}
{TheTrollie, Postie}
{Killthestory}
{Rhaegar}
{PantherPunt}

[This is my username]

V/LA for about 16 hours, will not be able to post in that time at all.

[Rhaegar]

how do you read this shit?

By guessing.

{This is my username}
{TheTrollie, Postie}
{Killthestory}
{Rhaegar}
{PantherPunt}

And Some of us have been away from this site for a couple years and would like an explanation of how your reads work.

[Maestro]

VC 1.01

GROUP 1

BlueTrin -

0 / 2

lovelygiant -

0 / 2

Ranger -

0 / 2

GROUP 2

Rhaegar -

0 / 2

Postie -

0 / 2

Killthestory -

0 / 2

GROUP 3

This is my username -

0 / 2

TheTrollie -

1 / 2

- PantherPunt
PantherPunt -

1 / 2

- This is my username

With

[9]

alive it takes

[2]

to Lynch in each group.

In this specific setup, "No Lynch" is not an option.

ACTIVITY CHECK & NOTES

:

Jesus you all post a lot. Still searching for a replacement for

lovelygiant

. Nobody I PMed got back to me with a positive response, so I've resorted to queue posting. Oh, what a sad day this is.

Deadline is in ... (expired on 2016-04-09 11:22:00)

[PantherPunt]

PantherPunt stop scumreading everyone who tries to case you

Aggressiveness =/= Recklessness

I think I'm in love

looks like buddying/pocketing to me. that seems more likely to me than Trollie being pocketed by TIMU.

Trollie has unwaveringly read TIMU as town and me as scum since page 1. I'm used to townies being skeptical of others and having reads that change over time- or at least ask questions to sure them up.

[PantherPunt]

@Maestro

- I never voted for This is my username. and have since unvoted anyways

Fixed my error. Check my rules for voting and unvoting if you have any questions.
~M