A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Skybird]

Hi Cerb! Good to see you!

[Sakura Hana]

I am commenting on things as I see them. I'm really not quite sure what you are getting at with the spread out comment.

In my head I have the town separated into several groups based on who they talk with the most as well as which wagon they're on.

The people in your list aren't ones I associate with each other.

I comment on what I see and in some instances who I know. For example, Tammy. I have played with her a few times and I feel this is her town game. Same with Spiffeh. I have also played with SirCakez before and I scum read him for his posting and he wasn't scum. I am being cautious about sorting him because I don't want to make that mistake again. I don't have an organized way I go through the player list and comment on people.

Why do you feel some people are associated together?

Apparently you forgot about me, Miss Reviver from Monogatari

[The Pied Piper]

Anyways just realized pretty much every person on my wagon (except maybe cakes) is my scum pool (which kind of shitty but whatever).

Picked up on something else that bothered me that I forgot to mention last night: when did Amihan and TWL end up in your scum pool and why? There's not really anything in your posts about why you were scum reading either of them.

Eh.

(And I don't even like sircakez that much.)

Why not?

Where did the misreported occur?

Mala said that she was more sure of Mirhawk being scum today than yesterday (which doesn't imply that she was scum reading yesterday), while beeboy said that he had a problem with her saying that she was scum reading Mirhawk yesterday.

Cakez, can you clarify for me your read on Sakura and beeboy? I know that you think beeboy waffled, and I agree with you, but where does that leave you on reading their alignments?

Sakura has been solidly town for me pretty much the whole game.
Beeboy is a slight scum read for me, he's improving past his initial waffle/Seniors tunnel.

I think by "clarify", podo meant "give reasons for thinking the way you are thinking".
How is Beeboy improving? His play looks almost identical to the early game play that you disliked unless you're seeing some interesting evolution that I'm not.

Where were the few times you explained it? Pretty sure you answered and I responded. I haven't played much with Sakura either, but her wanting to sort nacho right away is standard. If you haven't played with someone I don't know why it would even spark your notice. Furthermore, you pointing out that nothing was out of the ordinary when he hadn't posted beyond a couple rvs posts feels off.

Right now my concern is that you are either scum with nacho and you did some early discrediting to stop someone from sorting him or you're scum trying to get on his good side.

I'm not really sure I understand what point you're making here.

It seems a simpler answer to me that Mala misremembered Sakura's early approach towards me in games (which was what her initial response to you was about); if we were scum together, I think that I probably would mention to her the people who I was expecting to be specifically trying to read me, and if she was trying to get on my good side, I don't really think that it would look like this?

Saying that I hadn't done anything out of the ordinary is equivalent to me not doing anything alignment indicative which means you two are saying exactly the same thing about my early posts unless I'm missing something big.

I'm liking Amihan's latest posts a lot for weird reasoning I can't quite articulate now, but I'll try again tomorrow.

Hey Nacho,

thoughts on FS and Mirhawk and tammy please

~M

I'm not really sure on FS, but I'm leaning town there on the moment based on some of EP's posting.
Mirhawk seems scummy to me.
Tammy's town.

Hey Nacho,

thoughts on FS and Mirhawk and tammy please

~M

yayayay

Does this mean that you're final admitting you really don't know how to read me after?

(Not being bitchy, this really does make me happy. It's a lot lot lot easier to deal with someone suspecting you when they admit they can't really read you than when they think they can and you're as town as you can be and you're dealing with suspicion.)

I feel zippidy doo dah!

I'll respond to your post later. In the middle of something right now. But I do want to ask why you thought I was scum reading the Pied Piper?

now while i know you didn't intend it this way, this was a post that wasn't leading anywhere productive.

[SirCakez]

I think by "clarify", podo meant "give reasons for thinking the way you are thinking".
How is Beeboy improving? His play looks almost identical to the early game play that you disliked unless you're seeing some interesting evolution that I'm not.

I mean, his tunnel died off mostly and I haven't seen any more waffling so it was an improvement to me.
Skybird where did we play together before where you scumread me and I wasn't scum O.o

[The Pied Piper]

I think by "clarify", podo meant "give reasons for thinking the way you are thinking".
How is Beeboy improving? His play looks almost identical to the early game play that you disliked unless you're seeing some interesting evolution that I'm not.

I mean, his tunnel died off mostly and I haven't seen any more waffling so it was an improvement to me.
Skybird where did we play together before where you scumread me and I wasn't scum O.o

Why were you town reading Sakura?

[SirCakez]

Her early posts and interactions with Beeboy felt natural, liked her Tictac case

[Sakura Hana]

Nacho!

[The Pied Piper]

Anyways I'm just trying to engage Nacho into the game. He seems to be ignoring it while posting in another thread and that's bothering me. :\

Can't really respond to this directly, but the reasons I avoid a thread are usually more meaningful than "I am avoiding the thread because I am afraid to post because I am scum!".

Oh but I will say this. I don't have a scum read on Pied Piper and I never said I did. My vote is on my rvs vote because I haven't decided where I want to move it to. Which I stated when I said I was withholding my vote for now Saturday morning.

I think Mala thought you were scum reading me because of your post that looked like you were considering a me/Mala team. I do think that Mala's initial response to your questioning was a little too sensitive but I don't really think it was an odd response considering history.

You were absent and then you started after me re: Sakura/Nacho and then when I stopped posting you picked to what seemed to be a fight with Beeboy.

I don't think either of these pushes were intended as picking a fight with or getting after people.

[The Pied Piper]

Nacho!

I will warn you right now that my #1 goal is to get caught up and then pass out, so if you have specific questions in mind, that's cool but if it's a "let's sit down together and talk about our view of the gamestate as a whole", now is probably not the time.

[Sakura Hana]

[The Pied Piper]

and as soon as I got done saying that, I read my catchup post.

whoops.

[The Pied Piper]

Ah.
Thank you, that makes sense and answers my question.

I have no idea which of you posted this.
Thanks for giving me nightmares.

Ah.
Thank you, that makes sense and answers my question.

I have no idea which of you posted this.
Thanks for giving me nightmares.

If it makes you feel better, I read 609 and I thought that it was my post around here and was incredibly confused for longer than I'd like to admit.

[The Pied Piper]

But now you seem to be convinced enough that you're at the stage where the first thought about someone defending me is that they might be a scumpartner. The first assumption isn't even that podoboq is just wrong on, but that someone defending me makes for a potential scum team association! That is so weird to me.

I found the scum team observation a bit strange, but I don't think that the post implies that Skybird is so confident that you are scum that she is looking for your partner, and I very strongly doubt that you are going to be scum's mislynch target for today so scum having you as their planned scumread for the day seems off. Skybird just feels like she's drifting in the ethers right now; it doesn't feel great but generally she floats a bit until she finds something to latch onto and when she latches onto something she doesn't seem that difficult to read, although this is coming from someone with approximately zero memorable experience with her scumgame.

I'm sorry waht? Are you having trouble reading my first post and the second post?

I don't know what you're confused about and because I'm town reading you and don't have a particular need to get this addressed let's drop it and talk Axel.

What
The
Heck?

You've never asked someone a question that they didn't understand and then reworded it and they didn't understand it and then tried again and they didn't understand it and then threw your hands up and said "fuck it"?

[The Pied Piper]

ehhhhhhhhhhh I still don't really get it
what was your mentality behind your lack of vote on us in your entrance
that being said your recent posts are okay

Egh sorry.
I was reading the thread. Liked beeboy's push. seemed genuine. ISO's Seniors. seemed shitty.
Read a bit more. beeboy changed his vote to Sakura. Huh? Sakura seemed okay. Waiting to see what beeboy followed up with.
Posted. beeboy cross-posted. Changed his mind on the Sakura push. Asked me to sheep him on Seniors.
OK.

I thought that explained it pretty solidly. You didn't?

did I hallucinate the part where I quoted the points that I thought were bad and told him they were bad and why
because if i did then i'll be happy to do that now.

You probably didn't; I'll follow up on this when I don't want to sleep so badly.

[Spiffeh]

The most active player is always going to get a favorable nod, and I liked his early enthusiasm.

Yuck

[Spiffeh]

Kind of like Tammy for a lot of the same reasons, particularly early enthusiasm.

And now it looks like you're throwing around "early enthusiasm" as a blanket justification for town reads.

Tammy was completely absent early on

[Skybird]

I am commenting on things as I see them. I'm really not quite sure what you are getting at with the spread out comment.

In my head I have the town separated into several groups based on who they talk with the most as well as which wagon they're on.

The people in your list aren't ones I associate with each other.

I comment on what I see and in some instances who I know. For example, Tammy. I have played with her a few times and I feel this is her town game. Same with Spiffeh. I have also played with SirCakez before and I scum read him for his posting and he wasn't scum. I am being cautious about sorting him because I don't want to make that mistake again. I don't have an organized way I go through the player list and comment on people.

Why do you feel some people are associated together?

Apparently you forgot about me, Miss Reviver from Monogatari

No, I didn't forget you! <3 What do you think of PiedPiper? They keep making these long posts and my eyes glaze over before I've even started reading them.

[Sakura Hana]

No, I didn't forget you! <3 What do you think of PiedPiper? They keep making these long posts and my eyes glaze over before I've even started reading them.

saw that nacho was posting and wanted to check that out, but i'm at a loss because his catchup looks townie but some of his posts (in particular the ones i quoted) feel awkward. I want to engage him in real time ASAP.

[Sakura Hana]

And now it looks like you're throwing around "early enthusiasm" as a blanket justification for town reads.

That's one of the things i was thinking when i saw that reads list.

[Skybird]

Skybird where did we play together before where you scumread me and I wasn't scum O.o

I just went looking for the game and I'm not seeing it. I'm not confusing you with someone else am I? I seem to be doing a lot of that lately.

[Spiffeh]

When did Seniors move to null whoa

The only scummy thing they did was calling the Snarky vote a push and somehow getting a read off of him from his naked vote

EP has looked pretty town and hiplop's frustration seems genuine

I keep going back and forth on them and I'm actually leaning towards them being town if I had to guess

[Axelrod]

Kind of like Tammy for a lot of the same reasons, particularly early enthusiasm.

And now it looks like you're throwing around "early enthusiasm" as a blanket justification for town reads.

Tammy was completely absent early on

For early Town reads absolutely.

I don't mean "hey, hey go team!" enthusiasm, but being really invested in the game enthusiasm. Tammy's blitzing of the thread when she came in felt more like a Townie trying to figure stuff out than scum to me.

[Spiffeh]

Ok why didn't you say that?

Again, using "early enthusiasm" when that doesn't apply makes it look like you are arbitrarily townreading someone

[Spiffeh]

Sorry for any excessively delayed responses, I'm currently out of town.

Just reading over everything that's happened, I'd like Ami to clarify themself on what exactly they're trying to say pertaining to Pistachio's Miller claim. Is it a CC? A hinting at it? Just trying to see how people react?

My current scumreads at this time would probably be somewhere in the block of Hiplop, Cakez, and Beeboy. I have a question for you three: What if Pistachio is shot and flips town? What does this suggest about Ami, and would that warrant an instant vote?

@the late RVS matter, I can only be around early morning and laaate evening for this week. Sorry about that.

Swordsworth is scum because his scum reads are basically the people that are around and "controversial" and the fact that he doesn't justify any of them doesn't sit well with me especially since I highly doubt any of them would be scum together. Idk he just cast a really large and broad net and looks like he only listed scum reads to have them.

And like Tammy said earlier, he is overly apologetic when he doesn't need to be and it reads as newbscum.

[Spiffeh]

Ok why didn't you say that?

Again, using "early enthusiasm" when that doesn't apply makes it look like you are arbitrarily townreading someone

I didn't finish this thought lol

it makes it look like you are arbitrarily townreading someone and attaching some random reason to it so it looks legit