A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Rob14]

tictac has been prodded.

[Mirhawk]

Vote:Skybird

[Mirhawk]

In case anyone's wondering, this is the only existing wagon which I'm comfortable with.

Every other one sucks. Except MAYBE pistachion.

[tictac]

tictac has been prodded.

Ugh. I was just writing this..


Catching up. I'm on page 30.

9 players in the game (not counting multiple hydra heads) have direct meta that this is how I ask questions. You are also welcome to refer to my wiki. A great example is 581, where I famously blew up at Whatisswag for questioning exactly the same kinds of posts.

Name 3 players who can confirm your style of questioning.
Not gonna go into indirect meta reading at this stage of the game. I'd never catch up.

tictac's opening posts screamed newbScum at me, which is weird because tictac doesn't seem to consider himself new.

I don't have any very strong townreads, but tentatively I townlean to some degree the following:
beeboy, SirC, dave, Sakura, Piper, Axel, podo

What was nebscummish about my opening posts? WL sheeping Sakura here?
What is the reason to townlean Cakez & dave?

I like pist's reaction to the claim. I don't think scum would actually counter by saying "well technically you DID post first" especially when that was factually incorrect anyway.

Making stuff up to defend yourself is towny now??

Would be surpised if there are three completed - I only remember the one.

Three completed game threads with your posts in them. Didn't really look inside.

The problem is you're making the assumption that I'm new

I looked and came into a conclusion that you were. I was mistaken, it happens.

So I'm wondering what you're hoping to gain from this line of questioning as I feel I've clarified everything and you're talking in circles.

I'm

going in circles? I made a point about you in my first post & pretty much lost interest once it became clear you weren't actually new. You are the one that keeps returning to it.

most of my read is coming from town reading Cakez and beeboy.

Why are you townreading Cakez?

You have more than five games to your repertoire and you're actually trying to argue the waffling is a scum tell thing?

How is that unbelieable to you?
Waffling isn't a strong tell, but it is a tell and it's a pretty commonly used one.

If your last few posts are legitimate, and you're willing to engage in the new things that have happened in the game which are unrelated to the wagon on you, then I'm totally happy to unvote here. If in my reread, I reevaluate your slot more positively, then I'm totally happy to unvote here.

Ungh. Offer to unvote Seniors in response to OMGUS from Seniors.

I haven't re-read yet, that is still coming, but I had this thought. What about a "Musical" claim. i.e.: just what Musical you are from, and nothing else?

Against.

Plotinus is V/LA for a week. I've had some bad news.

I hope you are ok.

sircakez is prob town btw

Whyy?

Your assumption is correct; I am here to pick up Plotinus's song where theirs left off.

8 terrible votes on the wall
8 terrible votes~

Why are those votes terrible? Just cause they don't agree with you?

To be continued tomorrow. I'm going blind. :/

[podoboq]

most of my read is coming from town reading Cakez and beeboy.

Why are you townreading Cakez?

I like how he's engaged with other players. He mentions things he finds scummy, asks about them, and requires that people justify their actions. That's how I play the game.

I like how he was hard on beeboy for the Sakura waffling, specifically.

If your last few posts are legitimate, and you're willing to engage in the new things that have happened in the game which are unrelated to the wagon on you, then I'm totally happy to unvote here. If in my reread, I reevaluate your slot more positively, then I'm totally happy to unvote here.

Ungh. Offer to unvote Seniors in response to OMGUS from Seniors.

I'm not "offering" to unvote FS. I'm telling them what they need to do to be worthy of an unvote. "If your play demonstrates that you're towny to me, I'll take my vote off. As it stands, I'm voting for you, because you haven't been playing the game like town should."

[pistachi0n]

I realize I forgot to actually vote Mirhawk in my last post.

VOTE: mirhawk

[pistachi0n]

I'm not lynching dram today over Skybird or Ranger (sorry you replaced into a scum slot)

I can see joining a Ranger lynch today, but not sure enough on Skybird yet to switch off of dram.

Why would you say this when Ranger hasn't even posted yet?

[podoboq]

I'm not lynching dram today over Skybird or Ranger (sorry you replaced into a scum slot)

I can see joining a Ranger lynch today, but not sure enough on Skybird yet to switch off of dram.

Why would you say this when Ranger hasn't even posted yet?

Because I'm not comfortable with the slot based on Swordsworth's (lack of) contribution. If Ranger can contribute something, that can obviously change, but if Ranger plays similarly to Swords, it's not looking good for that slot.

[Mirhawk]

Shouldn't you be voting me instead of your vanity wagon on dramonic?

[Mirhawk]

Wait nevermind, that's dav.

I'll still stand by that remark though.

[podoboq]

Shouldn't you be voting me instead of your vanity wagon on dramonic?

I'm not 100% on you, and frankly, I liked post 1199. I really don't like how people are just accepting dramonic's play, though.

Also, I don't know what a "vanity" wagon is.

[SirCakez]

I'm not inclined to believe that replacing out is alignment indicative, though ironically enough in the last three games I've played there have been six scum replace outs.

This should be a sign for you that it is indicative. There were three scum replace outs in a Mini Theme I just finished and no town replace outs.

[SirCakez]

A vanity wagon is a onevote wagon that has little chance of growing, thus its for vanity.
Dram wagon isn't vanity since there are votes on it, although not good ones.

[Mirhawk]

@Cakes
I get what you're saying, but if replacing out was a sure scumtell people would have figured that out a long time ago.

For me a vanity wagon doesn't have to be a one vote wagon. It's more if the person is ignoring a more viable wagon to be on one with low chances of going through.

[pistachi0n]

I'm not lynching dram today over Skybird or Ranger (sorry you replaced into a scum slot)

I can see joining a Ranger lynch today, but not sure enough on Skybird yet to switch off of dram.

Why would you say this when Ranger hasn't even posted yet?

Because I'm not comfortable with the slot based on Swordsworth's (lack of) contribution. If Ranger can contribute something, that can obviously change, but if Ranger plays similarly to Swords, it's not looking good for that slot.

Yeah, we should look at Ranger's slot, but it's awfully bold to intend to vote someone who hasn't posted at all.

[podoboq]

I'm not lynching dram today over Skybird or Ranger (sorry you replaced into a scum slot)

I can see joining a Ranger lynch today, but not sure enough on Skybird yet to switch off of dram.

Why would you say this when Ranger hasn't even posted yet?

Because I'm not comfortable with the slot based on Swordsworth's (lack of) contribution. If Ranger can contribute something, that can obviously change, but if Ranger plays similarly to Swords, it's not looking good for that slot.

Yeah, we should look at Ranger's slot, but it's awfully bold to intend to vote someone who hasn't posted at all.

I'm not voting him yet. I'm just saying that if a wagon moves on him in the next seven days, and we're coming on deadline, and nothing has changed, I'm OK with that wagon.

I have no intention of lynching him before he gets a chance to start posting.

[SirCakez]

@Cakes
I get what you're saying, but if replacing out was a sure scumtell people would have figured that out a long time ago.

For me a vanity wagon doesn't have to be a one vote wagon. It's more if the person is ignoring a more viable wagon to be on one with low chances of going through.

Its not a sure scum tell, but this one just feels like one given Swords position in the game.
And that's my personal definition, I don't think there's a standard one.

[podoboq]

@Cakes
I get what you're saying, but if replacing out was a sure scumtell people would have figured that out a long time ago.

For me a vanity wagon doesn't have to be a one vote wagon. It's more if the person is ignoring a more viable wagon to be on one with low chances of going through.

So can you explain why the dramonic wagon is a vanity wagon from your perspective? What's the more viable wagon we should be on? Until a few posts back, I was heavily considering you as the answer.

[pistachi0n]

You're the only one voting him, nobody else is very interested.

[Mirhawk]

I don't think dramonic is particularly scummy, and I certainly don't see his lynch going through today.

At the time when I made that post I was thinking your vote should be on me. Now I don't know, but I still think it's wasted on dramonic.

[podoboq]

You're the only one voting him, nobody else is very interested.

If you're talking to me, you're factually wrong. Axelrod and davesas (admittedly not the best company) were voting for dram before I did, and as far as I'm aware still are.

[Mirhawk]

Podo what do you think of skybird?

I really don't like the whole dropping his RVS vote 1000 posts into the game to start doing serious scumhunting, then the the first thing he does is ask Snarky (of all people) a question about something he said 1000 posts ago.

Too scummy to be scum is stupid, but I mean that's ridiculous.

[Mirhawk]

Do you think he was legit expecting an answer from snarky?

I can't see how he would actually think he would get one. I mean, I'm under the impression that he's actually reading the game (unlike the impression I get from snarky), so why would he think snarky would answer.

[SirCakez]

Podo did you read the ISO I linked?
Snarky is a quality vig shot, no point wagoning him.

[Mirhawk]

Whoops, skybirds a lady.