Micro 596: Longnight Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Rhaegar]

UNVOTE:

Because I only ever self-vote as town so I'm cleared now.

Do you have a read on TiMU?

That's what I was saying damnit.

Oh. Well you're probably right.

VOTE: Postie

Why say this if you are town? How is adding additional wifom to the game, even as a joke, beneficial?

This answer is that it is not, and this comes across as terribly scummy.

I see that KTS is calling me scum, I don't feel the same way about him so it seems like this is the way I will have to vote.

VOTE: Postie

[PantherPunt]

No, I haven't, but I would consider both Trollie and TIMU confirmed scum if I didn't already know that only one of them was scum and I'm townreading him independently.

Does he have a super scary scumgame that I should be worried about?

Lol I subbed in n1626 after pisskop pushed your buttons. I completely wrecked him and idiot town lynched me over him.
Also, I'm having a damn hard time with my group because I agree- they are both uber scummy so it's a game of find the townie and it's hard AF.

Like you're free flowing entry..and already had a pretty significant scum read on Ranger so :thumb:

[PantherPunt]

Hey Postie you were just online, but you didn't post in here. What gives?

Hi. I came in, saw a "first post" and a "Sup" and wanted to add something productive. Couldn't think of anything, so I decided to read Shortnight in case there was anything useful to be learned from it.

I want to RVS vote someone but I'm paranoid that a legit VI will hammer after not reading the set-up.

RQS anyone...? You're scum; what's your plan for this game? Go!

For the record this doesn't even make sense.
If a VI hammers and you didn't selfvote the hammer would by default be on scum.

LOL didn't even catch that

[Rhaegar]

Other reads:

PP and TIMU thing was town v. town as I've said before, so by POE that leaves TheTrollie as scum.

In group one, I'm think RC (previously bluefin) is scum. I don't like how bluefin appeared to be buddying up to Ranger by trying to answer all the questions I was directing at Ranger. Feels like scum trying to get on someone's good side.

[Killthestory]

Kill, walk me through your Postie and Ranger reads please.

ive never played with postie before but his content seems p gud. can you educate me on whether hes scum or not?

ranger doesnt explain his reads very well, and i really dont like them in general. not much else content wise

[RadiantCowbells]

Other reads:

PP and TIMU thing was town v. town as I've said before, so by POE that leaves TheTrollie as scum.

In group one, I'm think RC (previously bluefin) is scum. I don't like how bluefin appeared to be buddying up to Ranger by trying to answer all the questions I was directing at Ranger. Feels like scum trying to get on someone's good side.

Walk me through how that's buddying?
I really don't like how you keep emphasizing that I was previously Bluetrin. It feels disingenuous and feels like you're afraid that you lost a viable lynch because of my replace.

[PantherPunt]

Kts your attempt at casing me earlier though was pretty ridiculous and stretchy.
Have to review you and Postie tomorrow tbh. Postie has posted well...but my issue that I previously haven't voiced is that she just was asking question after question. Putting the onus on others to say content-laden things and kind of skating along the periphery/background herself.
Kts made some pretty bad posts but was putting himself out there aggressively.

[Killthestory]

at first i thought you were scum just because of how you were playing, but as time went on my gut started telling me you were town and i only really pressured you to solidify the read for myself

[Rhaegar]

Walk me through how that's buddying?
I really don't like how you keep emphasizing that I was previously Bluetrin. It feels disingenuous and feels like you're afraid that you lost a viable lynch because of my replace.

It's trying to get on someones good side by sticking up for and defending them. With the way this setup is designed, that is extremely important with the tiny lynch groups.

I'm emphasizing it was bluetrim because it was the things he said. Replacing out doesn't eradicate what happened with the slot, you don't get to come in with a clean slate RC. It's absurd to try and say that we should disregard everything Bluetrim said.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't need a clean slate when I replaced into a town slot.
I also never said you should disregard everything Bluetrin said; I said that I don't like how your case is emphasizing that I'm Bluetrin and not addressing me at all.
You repeatedly getting his name wrong is sketchy af.

[Postie]

For the record this doesn't even make sense.
If a VI hammers and you didn't selfvote the hammer would by default be on scum.

Oh yeah. I'm dumb.

Why say this if you are town? How is adding additional wifom to the game, even as a joke, beneficial?

This answer is that it is not, and this comes across as terribly scummy.

Why is it scummy?
Anti-town =/= scummy

Although I think it should be fairly obvious that it's probably a bad idea to try and read into a joke I made to determine my alignment.

[Rhaegar]

The post wasn't addressed to you, I was explaining my read on your slot. As BlueTrin was part of it, and what he did was scummy, I used his name. I don't think I overemphasized anything.

And how is misspelling someone's name scummy as fuck? I heard a lot of different scumtells, but that's a new one for me.

[RadiantCowbells]

It's weird and it's awkward and weird and awkward stuff is scummy, yes.
Why wasn't it addressed to me? You can talk about BlueTrin until the cows come home but the general consensus now is that I'm town and you're not going to get shit done doubtcasting the previous player.
Why don't you talk to me?

[Rhaegar]

Why is it scummy?
Anti-town =/= scummy

Scum benefits from confusion and uncertainty, town doesn't. Scum has every reason to want to fog things up, town wants things to be straightforward and clear. What you doing, even as a joke (I don't disagree that it was a joke), just adds another layer of fog to the game.

[Postie]

Why say this if you are town? How is adding additional wifom to the game, even as a joke, beneficial?

This answer is that it is not, and this comes across as terribly scummy.

I see that KTS is calling me scum, I don't feel the same way about him so it seems like this is the way I will have to vote.

VOTE: Postie

Also that last paragraph makes it sound like you're just putting down a vote because someone put one on you and you want to move attention away from yourself.

[Rhaegar]

@RC, I'm sorry you replaced into a scum slot RC, there isn't anything I can do to help you with that.

@Postie, No one has put a vote on me, read the game Postie.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like, I'm town.
How am I supposed to respond to you complaining about Bluetrin?
You're treating my slot like you're confbiased on it beyond reconsidering and the gamestate doesn't support that.
It feels like a premeditated decision to push a slot as opposed to a legitimate read progression.

Also that last paragraph makes it sound like you're just putting down a vote because someone put one on you and you want to move attention away from yourself.

Maybe.

Scum benefits from confusion and uncertainty, town doesn't. Scum has every reason to want to fog things up, town wants things to be straightforward and clear. What you doing, even as a joke (I don't disagree that it was a joke), just adds another layer of fog to the game.

Dude if you are town this is absolutely catastrophically horrible.
Postie may or may not be scum but if she is that was 100% not an intentional move to confuse people.
Assigning alignment indicative motivation to shit that doesn't merit it is a scumtell, fyi.

[RadiantCowbells]

@RC, I'm sorry you replaced into a scum slot RC, there isn't anything I can do to help you with that.

@Postie, No one has put a vote on me, read the game Postie.

See yeah this is what I mean.
You're either so confbiased on my slot so as to be beyond reconsidering or you're scum.
And you haven't been talking about me or my slot like you thought I was confscum until after the replace and pressure started building on Ranger.

[Rhaegar]

Why wasn't it addressed to me? You can talk about BlueTrin until the cows come home but the general consensus now is that I'm town and you're not going to get shit done doubtcasting the previous player.

So I should just call you town because everyone else does? I don't think that way. I don't go looking at the consensus of the player base before deciding what my reads are.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I'm saying that you're

not going to get me lynched

by talking about the previous player's play.

So if you're town you're going to have to talk about me anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like jesus fuck I hate Rhaegar twisting every single thing that comes out of his mouth.

[Rhaegar]

@bluetrim, why do you feel so compelled to explain things for ranger?

@RC, I was in the process of asking BlueTrin about his interactions with me before he left, this read didn't come out of nowhere.

[Postie]

@Postie, No one has put a vote on me, read the game Postie.

Oops. Well, replace "put a vote on you" with "called you scum" and my point still stands.

[Rhaegar]

@RC, where have I twisted anything you've said. Give some examples.

[Postie]

Oh hold on Rhaegar is in my group.

Goodie.

VOTE: Rhaegar