A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Mirhawk]

@Ami
Sorry for losing my cool. Your comment made me think you were saying it was my fault Skybird and Ranger weren't going anywhere and that pissed me off.

My read on Cakez is recent. I only really started thinking about him when Spiffah asked me to vote him a few pages ago. I did a quick read on his ISO and realized that he did a lot less scumhunting than I expected. I checked another couple games for comparison and decided he was scum. Do you have a problem with my case on him other then the way I brought it up? Because I'm seriously finding him the scummiest person in town at the moment.

I'm down with Ranger, I don't know how you got the impression that I wasn't.

[Axelrod]

@Podo
Cakes is scum because he isn't looking for scum, rather he's coasting and has been doing so for most of the game.

In the last game I played with him (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=65594) he actively scumhunted constantly, in this one he vote parked on me over a thousand posts ago and hasn't done much of anything since.

How much time does he spend pushing the scumread he's had all game? Almost none. He doesn't analyze any of my posts and the extent of him pushing my wagon consists of him occasionally reminding people that he thinks I'm scum.

My issue with Cakes is that it seems like the only thing he's doing is "meta" reads of people.

[Axelrod]

Axelrod- I've already posted about Axelrod

-EP

POORLY

[Axelrod]

It's after midnight and I'm going to bed.

I'm going to place an informed vote on someone tomorrow.

[Friendless Seniors]

VOTE: ranger

cakez/ranger we support

[Friendless Seniors]

I like axels post here, EP. Sorry.

[Ranger]

I think EP and Hiplop may just be lynch bait imo.

You think a hydra of

Errantparabola

, a

Don Corelone nominee

, and

hiplop

, one of the strongest town players around and someone who is fairly good as town, is lynchbait?

No.

If it looks like scum. It is probably scum. Errant's posting on this page in particular is signature Errant-scumplay posting.

[Ranger]

I expected you to have fresh perspective and you didn't.

Not my fault people beat me to the punch because I wasn't in the game at the time. If others say what I want said before I have said it, there's not much I can do except say, "^this, totally this".

[Friendless Seniors]

one of the strongest town players around and someone who is fairly good as town, is lynchbait?

I'm one of the best town players and fairly good as town!!!

[Ranger]

Cakez and Ranger in particular are way too complacent with the most popular wagons today being their top two scum reads and doing no further digging beyond that

Am I supposed to be paranoid that people are scumreading my scumread? Am I supposed to be paranoid that a large number of people, most of whom I do not take issue with, are following me? I take issue with certain names on the wagon, e.g. tictac, but not to overwhelmingly alarming concern.

[Ranger]

Like, if these two are equally scummy in your eyes (these are your bottom tier guys), and one wagon is bigger than the other, why would you push the smaller one and make them tied?

The Mirhawk wagon was stalling and encountering resistance.

The Friendless Seniors wagon was growing and had greater support.

The wagons were approximately the same size without taking my vote into consideration.

So I switched.

I really don't see what's so hard to grasp.

Again, really not a fan of the way you are narrowing these choices.

I'm not getting lynched today. (Or ever for that matter.)
SirCakez is not getting lynched today. (Or ever for that matter.)
Skybird was never a viable wagon, contrary to what Mirhawk says.
If tictac were viable, I'd expect it to have materialized. Lo and behold, it has yet to.

Ergo, {Mirhawk, Friendless Seniors} are the only realistic candidates.
Mirhawk's wagon seems less viable, so that's why I'm pushing Friendless Seniors.

[Ranger]

one of the strongest town players around and someone who is fairly good as town,

*Fairly good as scum.

[Friendless Seniors]

I'm objectively better at scum tbh

and you forgot this hydra is also don Corleone nominated

[beeboy]

I'm objectively better at scum tbh

and you forgot this hydra is also don Corleone nominated

What idiot did that?

[Friendless Seniors]

ftr, I can't remember the last time I was lynched as scum unless the game was in a state where I was PoE'd

[Friendless Seniors]

whereas my EXTREME STYLE tends to get me mislynched

[Friendless Seniors]

ranger knows this.

their pushing of this slot is shifty af

[beeboy]

ewww I am trying to be on the ranger wagon but you make posts like that.

[Mirhawk]

@Ranger
Skybird was viable until you torpedoed it.

Your continued insistence that the only viable lynches are the ones you want is scummy.
If they were actually that viable surely you would have been able to get some traction on them by now.
I think the only reason you're still insisting on them is because you don't want to be seen backing down.

[SirCakez]

Ranger wagon is def a scum counterwagon to Seniors/Mirhawk. Like Seniors is just following Spiffeh's vote, it's pretty sad.
Axel - the only thing I'm doing are meta reads? The fuck

[Skybird]

I'm here, reading up now.

[Skybird]

TOWN
Tammy- Good

Amihan- Good

Spiffeh- Good

beeboy- Good

True Ogre- Good

WON'T LYNCH FOR NOW
The Pied Piper- I think some of the Nacho posting (at least I think it was Nacho) was good, but I honestly have no idea with this head, I want to say town but I think there were some things that prevented me from thinking that.

Mirhawk- the case on mirhawk I don't understand and early game was strong enough so that I will wait to see more from Mirhawk before considering lynching.

Ranger- This is really really "For now" because Ranger hasn't really pinged me enough to say I want to lynch her and there were a few posts that I did really like. I will talk to hiplop a bit about this

Cerb- Good, I think this is town play but I'm not entirely sure

Wrong Lynch- I don't remember anything making me want to evaluate wrong lynch more honestly. I think I might have to ISO them more though.

pistachio- probably good

podo- really flipping on this slot, so I want to see more before I actually consider lynching, I see a lot of good from podoboq, and clearly made an effort to connect with the game.

SHRUG
Snowman- Not enough to really evaluate this slot?

Dramonic- I'd rather not lynch Dramonic, I don't think that anything he did really merited a scumread so it confuses me that people want to vote him, it kinda shows me that people are targeting the low-content people because they don't actually have strong reads they want to push

Sakura- I don't know enough about this slot to actually say something of note

davesaz- don't really know enough about this slot. I'll ISO him when I have time

COULD LYNCH
Skybird- Hippy thinks skybird is town but 723 bad. Skybird seems to continually use the "my playstyle is just like this, don't scumread me" thing which is bad.

SirCakez- Logically, he kinda sucks. It could be because his style is just like that but I really don't understand most of the stuff that cakez scumreads people for

tictac- I see them following the big wagons- us, Ranger, Mirhawk, and going with the flow of the game, seems somewhat disconnected from the game, gives views on things but never really brings up things that she believes should be pushed, not really advancing game state?

Axelrod- I've already posted about Axelrod

-EP

I get scum read in every game I play because of my play style. Go look at my past games. people realize I'm town around day 2 or 3.

So other than post 723, what do you think is scummy?

[beeboy]

Oh my god skybird post is so scum as well.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

I have been skimming, but not enough to give me complex reads rtc.

[Skybird]

Oh my god skybird post is so scum as well.

Explain.