A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[True Ogre]

Piper I have a question for you, remind me tomorrow when I'm back.

[The Pied Piper]

Piper I have a question for you, remind me tomorrow when I'm back.

Okay

[True Ogre]

ty, probs 24 hours or so.

Thoughts on TWL if any?

[Mirhawk]

I still kind of think Seniors is town.

Which means every major wagon yesterday was on a town player. (open to debate if you're not me)

I'm thinking scum are going to be in players who weren't trying too hard to look for scum outside the major wagons. Or players who were trying to look involved without changing the gamestate.

I may be biased in this though as it fits fairly well with most of my existing reads. I'm still going to look into it some more though.

[The Pied Piper]

ty, probs 24 hours or so.

Thoughts on TWL if any?

I didn't mind what I was seeing from them early day 1; I didn't mind their end of the day behaviour either. Mala was clearly not caught up but she was trying to be around and she seemed to believe people who said that Ranger was the only viable wagon.

I'd like to see more from them. I think the night kill analysis case on them is okayish but I think pushing them for inactivity is lame.

I still feel like Mala would have been posting differently early on if she were scum together with my scumreads, even though I have different scumreads now than I did the last time I said that.

I'm still townleaning them but they're sort of in the middle of my reads list. I only have four people who aren't at least "town enough i guess," though, which isn't the right number.

I want to read the last forty pages with the amount of attention to detail they deserve but it's going to have to happen on a day that I'm less underslept. tomorrow, perhaps.

[Mirhawk]

The Wrong Lynch has been in my pool for a long time, I've just don't talk about it. I found some of their early - mid stuff poorly justified or opportunistic or something like that. Nothing they've said since has made me consider moving them out of it though. Their posts don't feel like they're trying to find anything, more like they're trying to look involved.

This still sums up my opinion on TWL.

[Skybird]

I read through Tictac's ISO. The conversation with beeboy early game didn’t indicate anything to me. I don’t see anything strongly AI from either of them. It was jut eh. Tictac comments on things but I didn’t see any strong feelings from him or any pushes. Right now I just put them as null on my reads list. I’d like to see more from them today so I can sort them one way or the other.

[tictac]

Seniors looks more towny from the claim.

Still happy with pist scumread last elaborated in 1646.
Really don't like how she still hasn't interacted with my posts

at all

.
VOTE: pist

[SirCakez]

Really don't think Seniors is scum here. This isn't an elaborate game like Tarot, I don't see something like that being put in.
^ post from Tictac was terrible. Literally no commet on anything but Seniors is town from claim (obvious) and going back to an ancient Pist scumread to wagon.

[The Pied Piper]

Really don't think Seniors is scum here. This isn't an elaborate game like Tarot, I don't see something like that being put in.
^ post from Tictac was terrible. Literally no commet on anything but Seniors is town from claim (obvious) and going back to an ancient Pist scumread to wagon.

i have Seniors as townish from NKA but I don't see how you'd arrive at "not elaborate" with the amount of role PMs a town player has available to them at this point in time. It's not role madness from the Ranger flip, but fruit vendor is a role that can be given to either side. Paint and Butterfly weren't role madness either and had an ordinary amount of VTs.

[SirCakez]

I mean in comparison to Tarot this isn't that elaborate. Very standard roles flipped here so far.

[The Pied Piper]

Scum fruit vendor is a standard role. In tarot, fruit vendor was only a part of my role, but in butterfly it massive's entire role and same for davsto in paint.

37 results for mafia fruit vendor

29 results for town fruit vendor

so yeah. it's a confirmable role that can be of either alignment.

[dramonic]

vote: Axel

you people

[SirCakez]

A lot of those are giving false feedback though for some reason. For example neither Open 630 or Legend of Zelda had a scum fruit vendor.
P-Edit: that's also a good vote

[The Pied Piper]

Probably, but I'd imagine the amount of false feedback would be the same for both alignments.

If I limit it to the first post of the game, 4 mafia fruit vendor and 7 town fruit vendor.

This will of course leave out any games where it was called something else (visitor, wig vendor, ice cream vendor or where the player survived to endgame and the mod didn't update the op...you'll notice paint and tarot aren't in the mafia results there. but it's good enough.

[SirCakez]

OK yea I get the point it's not impossible. I just don't think it's the situation here unless something else comes up to change my mind.

[The Pied Piper]

Yeah I agree about Seniors in particular because they would've killed Tammy not Spiffeh.

The confirmable role != confirmable alignment thing is more of a pet peeve than anything. I'll stop arguing about this now.

[Rob14]

Vote Count #2.1:

Skybird:

pistachi0n, Amihan (2)

pistachi0n:

True Ogre, tictac (2)

tictac:

SirCakez (1)

SirCakez:

The Pied Piper (1)

Axelrod:

dramonic (1)

Not Voting:

Skybird, Friendless Seniors, Axelrod, Mirhawk, Sakura Hana, Cerberus v666, THE WRONG LYNCH, beeboy, davesaz, podoboq

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

V/LA:

None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2016-04-22 21:00:00)

[Friendless Seniors]

I really am not liking pied piper. This looks like Plotscum. Nacho looks town but I really am having a hard time shaking plot-scum here.

@Ogs NKA usually sucks, but sometimes it doesn't? In the case of odd-ball kills like spiffeh who just ham-fisted a lynch on a townie, it very likely paints to someone. Spiffeh went pretty hard against twl. Theres a few other suspects, but I think TWL would be most probable.

I'd be okay with Piper/Pistachio/Cerb/TWL right now. Not in any particular order. I'll likely do more investigation on plot before I really do anything to push that

[SirCakez]

Why is everyone so opposed to Tictac all of a sudden?

[Friendless Seniors]

I forgot tictac

[davesaz]

While I'm off doing that research I mentioned, here's a good use of a vote.
VOTE: dramonic
Time for more than rolling your eyes.

pedit: Oh, I think tictac is scummy all right. Just not in a huge hurry, with so much to review from d1.

[tictac]

Yeehokay then
VOTE: Dramonic I do wanna hear whats up there.
Iwanna hear whyI'm scummy or how I'm less memorable than dramonic.

[tictac]

Anybody out herenow?

[tictac]

comeon now. Nobody wants to talkto drunk-me?