A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[True Ogre]

VOTE: pist
Back to this. I'll add claiming additional PR instead of claiming flavour to the charges. How the heck is that preferable?

Other news:

- In Cheetory mafia Amihan faked a guilty for reactions (while avoiding being explicit about it). She did this as scum. I wonder if the alt-switch was designed to direct our meta-reading to Marquis games and away from Cheetory :/ I've been writing her off as town from the gambit and I need to stop doing that.

- I'm unconfortable with how podo seems to be following Cakez around (latest instance her vote on me). The arc of 1.scumread Ranger-slot 2. Townread her from naked reads seems scummy to me. Like he first wanted to scumread a player who is known for her reads and then wanted to townread her once he found out she was off-base. Podo might feel more comfortable following a scummy path if he's sheeping a townie. I'm still witholding judgement on Cakez since I tunneled him day 1 last game and the things I find scummy here are the things I found scummy there.
- Cakez is right about me being less active here than I was in the mini. He was less active there and town. I don't see how he thinks it's AI. Nevertheless, criticism received. I will endeavor to put more effort in.

Here's another gut-town-ping which I've bolded.
I thought it was an astute observation, but I guess on reflection these are the kinds of things one might tend to come up with as scum.
I also thought the flow of this post was okay.

I'm sitting here looking at the word 'okay' and trying to think of how to describe it better. I guess 'genuine' at the time.

[True Ogre]

Post 2670 just gave me that feeling of "confronting".

There's no real backing down. Things people have said against tictac have been addressed (albeit in an awkward quote-stripey format), there are follow-ups to unanswered questions (and I've just clicked the link where he linked to another game where he called out PR-spec).

So yeah. Overall at this point... I still have a slight gut-town on tictac.

[itlepip]

You are townreading what too many people though. We have 5 scum prolly, and you have at most 2 scum reads.

[True Ogre]

Spoiler: proof that I'm not a lying scumbag about RL

I absolutely don't think you like about RL. Ever. I think other people hardly ever do, either.
It's just the difference between how you engage and how you fade as scum vs town.

Like I don't want to give you tips if you're scum, but the town-game I played with you not that long back had you coming in and just pushing. It was quite a difference from you as scum. It's not like you had a lot of time or anything, and you were wrong (and so was I) - but it didn't stop you from focussing on saying things you thought about the game.

I texted GM this afternoon and I still didn't get a reply. So if I don't hear from her in the next few days I'll replace into just a solo spot and I'll try to give time. I want to take a shower and then I'll probably try to catch up a bit, however, I don't really remember where I last left off so I'll probably just end up rereading the thread.

I'm sorry to hear that and I hope GM's okay (and I also hope things are looking up for you).

Also I need to ask Rob a question, but if I'm right:re my role, if I'm at L-2 -- treat me like I'm at L-1 until I get further notice from Rob.

I didn't look but I really doubt you're up to something like L-2 or L-1.

Just looked and last VC had you at 0 votes, but I think Cakez voted you.

I look forward to a couple of reads from you, and I hope you don't think I'm being an asshole.

[True Ogre]

You are townreading what too many people though. We have 5 scum prolly, and you have at most 2 scum reads.

Yeah well it doesn't really feel like that to me. It feels like I'm overly suspicious of too many people and that I have to settle on a few people as town.

5 scum in 22 is a bit too much. Either 2 teams of 2 or one 3-team and an SK.

[itlepip]

3 seems insanely townsided, I would say at least 4. Also if we have an SK they are trying to be a vig so idc.

[True Ogre]

Actually we started with 21. So yeah 4 scum at most I would think.

[True Ogre]

3 seems insanely townsided, I would say at least 4. Also if we have an SK they are trying to be a vig so idc.

I like you and I'm glad you're town.

[pistachi0n]

Also if we have an SK they are trying to be a vig so idc.

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[itlepip]

Sk is shooting within easy ML targets, so either they are actually a vig or are planning to claim vig and are basically just a vig for now. My money is that its actually just a vig.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

IDK why we are discussing this tbh

[itlepip]

setup specing how many mafia there are is pretty important.

[pistachi0n]

Sk is shooting within easy ML targets, so either they are actually a vig or are planning to claim vig and are basically just a vig for now. My money is that its actually just a vig.

You sound certain about this, I'm wondering if it's an SK slip.

[itlepip]

I'm not an SK because I don't put any effort into being an SK cause of how bad I think that role is.

Also why would I ever point out that the townsiding person might be an SK if I'm that person?

[True Ogre]

pistach <3

itle never claims vig after a statement like that.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

setup specing how many mafia there are is pretty important.

it's not the scum number that I'm worried about, but the openly fishing of the SK/vig thing that's bothering me

:/

[True Ogre]

setup specing how many mafia there are is pretty important.

it's not the scum number that I'm worried about, but the openly fishing of the SK/vig thing that's bothering me

:/

Who's scum Mala?

Also I'm getting tipsy so I'm out for today. Already posted 5000 thoughts so time for others to say what they want to.

Byee!

[itlepip]

I'm trying not to but people keep on coming in the thread and softing shit and its bad.

[pistachi0n]

I'm not an SK because I don't put any effort into being an SK cause of how bad I think that role is.

Also why would I ever point out that the townsiding person might be an SK if I'm that person?

It's just weird that we've only had one nightkill and you are already certain there's an SK and you think you know their game plan--how do you know it's an SK and not an inaccurate vig?

[itlepip]

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BALANCE OF NONTOWN AND VIGS DON'T AREN'T NONTOWN.

[THE WRONG WAGON]

setup specing how many mafia there are is pretty important.

it's not the scum number that I'm worried about, but the openly fishing of the SK/vig thing that's bothering me

:/

Who's scum Mala?

Also I'm getting tipsy so I'm out for today. Already posted 5000 thoughts so time for others to say what they want to.

Byee!

burtually honest that this is a stupid question to ask me when I stopped reading halfway during D1.

I'm going to reread and until then I don't really have an answer for you.

[True Ogre]

Are you trying to bait me back into the thread?

Because it's not a stupid question, it's about what you're focussing on. I don't have a persistent connection to when you did or didn't stop reading and if you have the time to say "stop talking about vig or sk" when it's obvious that a Snarky killed is either vig or an SK attempting to look like a vig then you can take time to maybe idunno say who you think is tending town or scum? Evn from the last 10 posts you read?

/out

[pistachi0n]

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BALANCE OF NONTOWN AND VIGS DON'T AREN'T NONTOWN.

ok, my bad

[davesaz]

@dave What is your read on Skybird?

Back to my windmill for now. Though I doubt it will result in him talking.

Why then?

Ya posted after this, but didn't answer.

Skybird looks town to me.

Why vote dramonic? Maybe others will finally pick up that he's scum.

[pistachi0n]

Why does skybird look town to you?