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[KuroiXHF]

You didn't vote me until I suggested that you're unable to think for yourself. It shows that you're temperamental, because I said something that visibly upset you.

[Gammagooey]

It shows that you're saying unsubstantiated deflect-y nonsense instead of scumhunting.

[Ranger]

you haven't really done anything particular scummy yourself but you haven't managed to change my read of the slot either.

Fair enough.

i think what was meant is that Lovers are generally town except for in setups which specifically use mafia lovers. Lover is a strong negative utility and it's rare mafia are penalized to that extent.

More or less this.

738, along with Kuroi's posting, makes me want to go here:
VOTE: Kuroi.

[duppin]

@Gamma sorry I realised you actually did kinda explain the scumread on RC. I'd still like to know what exactly your read on Ranger is though.

If I had to put it on a scale of town->scum it'd probably be a really slight town read. There are scum lovers that have existed on site but in order for that to work the setup usually has to be either nightless or generally wonky as all hell (something like 4 scum with a really significant amount of town investigative powers+a vig unless the game has some amount of bastard-ry elements in it), and as infuriatingly irritating and imo just fucking lazy, awful play as ranger's shown up with so far, her attitude I think fits more towards an arrogant overconfident town player than scum.
Bro's play is kind of similar, though that's because of more personal experience- I actually went through bro's list of games after he got force-replaced to try and remember if there were any other games I had played with him that I just forgot about, but I couldn't find any aside from the one I mentioned. In that game (drawn on arrival), he ALSO went on a tirade about me and several other people being shit at reading him even though I'm fairly certain that was the first non face-to-face game I'd ever played with him, and we didn't play many face to face games either. From what I've seen, not really doing anything readable and acting like he has a persecution complex seems like kind of just what he does early game.

Alright thanks for the answer, I like this post.

@duppin- Are you seriously considering voting Trollie? If you're not I'm probably going to jump on kuroi's wagon since we've got 2 days left and it seems reeal good to start consolidating wagons.

I don't think I've even mentioned Trollie actually.

But now that you've brought him up, I honestly don't really have a read on him. He seems to be rather inactive, but that's not really alignment indicative at all.
His posts has been okay-ish I think. I haven't played with him before so I don't know if he always plays like this or not.

[duppin]

Actually I assume that Trollie will get replaced, so that's good.

That means that everyone (but me and my gang obviously) has a vote out.

[duppin]

Does anyone know if Clumsy has played as scum before?

[Nahdia]

Does anyone know if Clumsy has played as scum before?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=64996

[Spiffeh]

UNVOTE:
I'll just vote where dipping does at this point

My scum reads are Ranger and Gamma

Kuroi too kinda but less so

[hiplop]

kuroi feels like mislynch bait

[Errantparabola]

I had BRO as pretty much hard town from lover chat.

to clarify, ranger might be scum here, but i'm hard-pressed to believe that considering bro posts

i still think gamma is town

duppin, have you given thoughts on kuroi yet?

[Marquis]

VOTECOUNT 1.20

(+1)

Aristophanes

—

KuroiXHF

(+2)

Ranger

—

Aristophanes, hiplop

(0)

Clumsy

—

(0)

Errantparabola

—

(0)

Gammagooey

—

(0)

hiplop

—

(+3)

KuroiXHF

—

Clumsy, Gammagooey, Ranger

(L-4)

(0)

Maestro

—

(0)

Nahdia

—

(0)

Spiffeh

—

(0)

duppin

—

(0)

TheTrollie

—

(+6)

NOT VOTING

—

TheTrollie, duppin+Nahdia+Maestro+Errantparabola, Spiffeh

With

12

alive

, it takes

7

to lynch

.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2016-04-18 01:00:00)

(Mon Apr 18 @ 1:00:00 AM EST)

.

NOTES

Clumsy

and

Marquis (your mod)

are V/LA from Fri Apr 15 to Sun Apr 17.

[Marquis]

PROD

Maestro

has been prodded. This is his third prod.

[Ranger]

Alright thanks for the answer, I like this post.

Thought I'd make it explicit, but yeah, so did I. Reason I switched off Gamma; he could be town.

[Aristophanes]

Working for the next 9 hours. If I can catch up while there, I will!
Didn't realize deadline was so close :S

[Maestro]

Boo. Hi people.

[Spiffeh]

Uh duppin

Make sure you vote in the next 14 hours

Thx

[Clumsy]

Have service for a bit here. First

That's all we're getting from you two? Aristo and Maestro. Prod dodges near deadline? Aristo I know you said you're at work, but we need you both to do something.

Second, Hiplop, we need to decide. Kuroi/Gamma?

[duppin]

I know Spiffeh, I've been trying to question the people in the PT since I can't help but feel they're coasting after pledging to me. (To be fair, this is not the case for Nahdia. I also think Errant is town). I'm really not fond of Maestro's slot though, still hasn't given a scumread or answered my question (I asked who he wanted to vote for.)

I'm not interested in the Gamma train at the moment actually. I've liked his last couple of posts.
As for the lovers (Ranger/Errant), there is no way I'm going to lynch them today. I have a town read on Errant but not on Ranger. I've played with a town/scum pairing before, but I think it's way more likely they're the same alignment, but unless I've misunderstood soemthing they do not know the alignment of each other? So it is still a possibility. In any case time will tell.

I don't really have a strong read on Kuroi to be honest. Could be either alignment, not really against the votes on him but I'm inclined to agree with Hiplop that this does feel a bit like an easy mislynch due to fact that there has been no real resistance to it so far (well, unless you consider that itself to be).

Thanks to Nahdia, I looked over Clumsy's game and it does seem a bit different actually. At first I thought Clumsy was scum in this game mainly because his play felt a bit like a new player playing scum for the first time. He seemed way more confident in the game Nahdia linked and I find that a bit weird. Not sure why he would be less confident now if he was town but meh I don't know. In the end I still find him pretty suspicious.

[TheTrollie]

VOTE: kurio

[TheTrollie]

VOTE: KuroiXHF

[Ranger]

I'm not interested in the Gamma train at the moment actually. I've liked his last couple of posts.

My stance on Gamma is similar: he

could

be scum. I'll need to have a thorough reread on him to be sure one way or another. But his recent posting has been

really, really good

, and that gives me

strong

hesitance behind the lynch.

[hiplop]

VOTE: kuroi

deadline unfortunately.

I think aristophanes can join our club, clumsy!

[TheTrollie]

highly town wagon right now imo

[Marquis]

bump

[Marquis]

badump