A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[True Ogre]

I know you didn't ask me this question, but the answer is: is this information that you have more valuable known to the Town than hidden from the scum? And that's something only you can really assess.

I know I've been speculating like a champ, but I support this sentiment.

Your spec is wrong but I get the feeling at least a couple of others know what happened.
I'm leaving it for now, you can argue about it when I'm dead or if it becomes important.

[Mirhawk]

I have notes to myself to re-check Cakez case against Mirhawk, to see if it looked like the same kind of thing he was doing with his TicTac case, and also to re-read Skybird in her entirety.

I suggest you start from his initial vote for me and continue through his iso from there.

[davesaz]

Seriously dude, do you not understand the word "lately"?

I did not say you were calling everything scummy in the first place. I said it SEEMED like you were. I am showing that you took 4 of my most recent posts and called them scummy. See the bolded large statement from you above? See the word bolded in my response?

This is just a semantics argument now, you know what I mean.

If it's semantics, then why are you acting like it makes Skybird scummy?

[SirCakez]

Skybird is arguing semantics when its obvious I mean she's overblowing the post I made calling 4 of her posts scummy into "calling everything I post lately scummy".

[True Ogre]

She literally posted a quote of you calling her last 4 posts scummy.
That's not overblown, that's factually correct.

[SirCakez]

How does last 4 posts = everything I post lately?

[Mirhawk]

Yes I did, because it was an easy wagon especially towards the end so I wanted to look into the people who had been pushing it for a while off of weak reasoning, for example Mirhawk.

And did you do this? What was so weak about my case on Ranger anyways?

I listed it off in the wall I made for Nacho.

Not really. My points were that Rangers final readslist sounded like it had been decided on beforehand, she was trying to manipulate the wagons to disclude Skybird from contention, and that her reads were poorly justified.

I had more reasons for voting Ranger then most of the people on her wagon, and of the people who had actually justified their votes for her many of them were using points I initially brought up.

[Mirhawk]

Your spec is wrong but I get the feeling at least a couple of others know what happened.
I'm leaving it for now, you can argue about it when I'm dead or if it becomes important.

S'cool

[True Ogre]

How does last 4 posts = everything I post lately?

What qualifies? Last 6 posts?
You're calling yourself out on semantics for some reason...???

[SirCakez]

Everything I post lately would be calling a consistent stream of posts for at least a day scummy.

[davesaz]

How does last 4 posts = everything I post lately?

They were literally 4 posts in a row. Out of those 4 posts, it was every post.
Duh.

[SirCakez]

Yes I did, because it was an easy wagon especially towards the end so I wanted to look into the people who had been pushing it for a while off of weak reasoning, for example Mirhawk.

And did you do this? What was so weak about my case on Ranger anyways?

I listed it off in the wall I made for Nacho.

Not really. My points were that Rangers final readslist sounded like it had been decided on beforehand, she was trying to manipulate the wagons to disclude Skybird from contention, and that her reads were poorly justified.

I had more reasons for voting Ranger then most of the people on her wagon, and of the people who had actually justified their votes for her many of them were using points I initially brought up.

The first makes no sense unless you assume she read the game before replacing in(?) and the third is standard for Ranger.
Where did she manipulate wagons?

[davesaz]

How is it relevant to justify a scum read yesterday on someone who flipped town?

[SirCakez]

It's not really. It was part of the info I collected from the Ranger wagon that Nacho asked about.

[True Ogre]

Everything I post lately would be calling a consistent stream of posts for at least a day scummy.

I don't think that Skybird has an obligation to live up to your definition of "everything lately".
When she posted that quote of yours I immediately understood and agreed with her definition.

I'm really not sure why it's important that you try to assert that you're in the right here.

[Friendless Seniors]

Marquis weird townread of TWL makes no sense. TWL EVEN IF TOWN has played very poorly, marquis' weird defense is just plain bad.

I really, really think TWL is scum

[Friendless Seniors]

and like sorry marquis but how are you allowed to talk about people being inactive...

personality tell marquis... cmon.

I was inactive at the start because it was frustrating as hell

pickups.

Two prodded marquis calling our slot inactive. ok

[Mirhawk]

All this stuff got discussed plenty yesterday, and a great deal of it was done by me. If you want to know that badly you can go back and look.

My point is that you said you were going to look into the people who had weak reasoning for voting her and cited me as an example. There were ten other people on the wagon at the end of the day, how was I one of the poorly justified ones.

Also, if Rangers flip was going to do so much to sort the people on the wagon (including me) when precisely did that happen? Your reads never changed at all.

[Friendless Seniors]

davesaz/ogre, thoughts on TWL?

[Friendless Seniors]

spiffeh dies scumreading TWL, TWL makes massive noise all day with tammy; understandable why tammy doesn't get killed.

It makes sense. TWL is scum.

[SirCakez]

Everything I post lately would be calling a consistent stream of posts for at least a day scummy.

I don't think that Skybird has an obligation to live up to your definition of "everything lately".
When she posted that quote of yours I immediately understood and agreed with her definition.

I'm really not sure why it's important that you try to assert that you're in the right here.

We have different definitions of this. I'll drop it for now.

[SirCakez]

All this stuff got discussed plenty yesterday, and a great deal of it was done by me. If you want to know that badly you can go back and look.

My point is that you said you were going to look into the people who had weak reasoning for voting her and cited me as an example. There were ten other people on the wagon at the end of the day, how was I one of the poorly justified ones.

Also, if Rangers flip was going to do so much to sort the people on the wagon (including me) when precisely did that happen? Your reads never changed at all.

It didn't affect my reads as much as I thought, yes. Snarky got vigged presumably, you're still a scumread, Spiffeh died, I believe Seniors is town, etc.
TWL is one vote I didn't like on the wagon and noted so it wasn't useless.

[True Ogre]

davesaz/ogre, thoughts on TWL?

At the moment I'm super-concerned about Piper's defense of the TWL when I don't know that they have a reason to be defending aside from either WKing or not wanting TWL lynched because both-scum.

Piper might have been wanting to give TWL more time to get into the game but I don't get that impression.

But TWL looks scummy and associative reads aren't great without a flip. I could reconsider. Just not feeling the Piper-town. Did your read on them change?

[True Ogre]

Everything I post lately would be calling a consistent stream of posts for at least a day scummy.

I don't think that Skybird has an obligation to live up to your definition of "everything lately".
When she posted that quote of yours I immediately understood and agreed with her definition.

I'm really not sure why it's important that you try to assert that you're in the right here.

:facepalm:
We have different definitions of this. I'll drop it for now.

In a sentence or two, what was with your insta-wagon on tictac at the start of the day?

[SirCakez]

He was lurking for a lot of day one and what he did post was pretty scummy. It's listed in the case I made on him.