A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Mirhawk]

@Axel
For the record, I only scumread Cakes after I read his ISO.

I didn't do that until Spiffah asked me to vote for him.

But yeah I'll agree that that vote looks shitty.

[Friendless Seniors]

piper is scum. its pre obvious

[SirCakez]

First off, 18 posts analyzing/questioning/pushing you isn't even close to the "no justification AT ALL until case" stuff you were pushing earlier.

914 isn't an abrupt end, look at 918, Cerb explained it better and then you took the discussion to him.
1194 (response to 1177) was missed looks like but I most definitely did not "duck out" there, I continued to engage you on the next page.

[Mirhawk]

@cakes/itle/podoboq/tictac/whoeverelse: argh the colours thing inside other people's quotes is contagious. Today I am going to teach you guys how to quotestripe. It's really easy you type

when you get to the part where you want to type your own words and then you can still use colours if you want but now it's easier to follow along with, and then when you want to resume their quote you type

again.

Also I might actually read things that aren't inside other quotes.

That's not completely true, but it does bug me.

[Friendless Seniors]

piper isn't going to die because theyre a wallposter and lazy posters see that as a town thing.

sigh.

[SirCakez]

Ranger is a wallposter though and she got lynched easily

[Mirhawk]

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Then be the vig, shoot them.

[Mirhawk]

Just realized Piper's instructions in his post screwed up my quote.

[Friendless Seniors]

"easily"

and ranger barely made any posts fwiw. Deadline scramble is nothing

cakez, whats the best thing you've seen in a piper post?

[The Pied Piper]

Not gonna catch up today, so I'm doing this and then going to bed. Promised a list, but since you made a case you get this instead:P

I feel like she's mostly playing by scanning the thread for mentions of her own name.

Paying attention to ones own name is a human-tell not a scumtell

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That's burden of proficiency. Not everyone sees what you see.

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aww shucks tell? Seen it more from town than from scum.
Or do you mean intending to vote me while not having paid attention to me?
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That's two points I think
1. Thinking non AI things are AI. This is a newbtell.
2. back and forth. Yeah, she isn't going back and forth in that post, obviously, cause going back and forth is a thing that happens in time, while a post is a static thing.
What she is doing is explaining her thoughts on the matter. Again, not forcing a read in one direction is a good thing, just not one site-meta agrees with.

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Skybird, have you ever seen a situation in a game of mafia where a bad guy voted one of his scumfriends?

Townreading people for being convincing is def a thing newbs do. Heck I don't even know if it's a bad tell in all cases.

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In 2913, she accuses Cakez of confbiasing but that's a townthing. Town confbias, scum misrep.

Burden of proficiency again. Terminology.

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2925 I don't understand what podo agreeing with marquis has to do with mirhawk agreeing with cakez. I feel like she's probably making a deeper point than "why is it wrong for me to agree with somebody, you agreed with somebody too" but I'm not sure what it is.

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She addressed this in 2925. I thought it was a good defense.

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[podoboq]

@cakes/itle/podoboq/tictac/whoeverelse: argh the colours thing inside other people's quotes is contagious. Today I am going to teach you guys how to quotestripe.

I only use my color to highlight things. I don't actually write new content inside of quotes. It makes it hard for people to quote the content that you embedded inside of someone else's quote.

[The Pied Piper]

Seniors, when are you going to answer the questions we asked you earlier, we were talking and then you disappeared even though you were posting elsewhere for about an hour but I forgave you because it was late in your timezone but here you are again. If you don't want to engage me, that's fine, but I'm going to ignore you if you're just gonna tunnel.

pedit: good, podoboq

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First off, 18 posts analyzing/questioning/pushing you isn't even close to the "no justification AT ALL until case" stuff you were pushing earlier.

914 isn't an abrupt end, look at 918, Cerb explained it better and then you took the discussion to him.
1194 (response to 1177) was missed looks like but I most definitely did not "duck out" there, I continued to engage you on the next page.

18 of 115 is about fifteen percent, that's a pretty low number if you ask me.

And calling all of those as relevant is probably a stretch as well. The most relevant thing in there is probably your question about my stance on TWL, but you dropped that. Also the thing you engaged me about on the next page was pretty pointless.

I feel like I shot pretty big holes in cerb's reasoning as well, but you never came back to help him justify his point despite saying you agreed completely with it. You seemed all too happy to let him argue it instead of you.

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and ranger barely made any posts fwiw. Deadline scramble is nothing

cakez, whats the best thing you've seen in a piper post?

Probably the reasoned out case on me actually. That didn't look like a scum viewpoint at all.

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It's weird that she wants a better read on Dram? I don't think so.

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I disagree with this. I townread Cakez, but still wanted him to justify his instant push of tictac with a case, even though I also had a slight scumread on tictac.

Also, you're right. The gradient is annoying. It's pretty, but it makes quoting you SO hard.

[Dwlee99]

ugh everyone posts in big walls that are boring as hell to read.

[Dwlee99]

everyone needs to adopt my playstyle: You get all your thoughts out in a few sentences instead of making huge walls of text that take 20 minutes to read and write.

[Dwlee99]

piper is scum. its pre obvious

idk why yet but I believe this is correct.

[The Pied Piper]

It's weird that she asks Dramonic why he thinks podoboq is scum in 2567 when she's been scumreading him herself.

It's weird that she wants a better read on Dram? I don't think so.

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I disagree with this. I townread Cakez, but still wanted him to justify his instant push of tictac with a case, even though I also had a slight scumread on tictac.

Also, you're right. The gradient is annoying. It's pretty, but it makes quoting you SO hard.

If you highlight some text with your mouse and press quote, it will quote only that part of the text (and get rid of the formatting, but that's fine.)

I probably won't be using the gradient very much, though.

[Mirhawk]

I wish I was dwlee.

[Mirhawk]

So stress free.

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It's weird that she asks Dramonic why he thinks podoboq is scum in 2567 when she's been scumreading him herself.

It's weird that she wants a better read on Dram? I don't think so.

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I disagree with this. I townread Cakez, but still wanted him to justify his instant push of tictac with a case, even though I also had a slight scumread on tictac.

Also, you're right. The gradient is annoying. It's pretty, but it makes quoting you SO hard.

If you highlight some text with your mouse and press quote, it will quote only that part of the text (and get rid of the formatting, but that's fine.)

I probably won't be using the gradient very much, though.

This is life changing news.

[SirCakez]

Dwlee is so easy to read which is the great thing about him. Like I even called him flipping town in the Borderlands Scum Chat.

[Mirhawk]

Not to nitpick, but if you were posting in the scumchat wouldn't you have known he was town?

I literally cannot watch that gif without adding DK sound effects. It's incredibly distracting.

[Mirhawk]

wait nevermind, I get it.