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Post Post #49875 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:45 pm

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Post Post #49876 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:39 pm

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animorpherv1 wrote:He's losing a lot of his ability to push every wave at the same time to do that, though.

Is that part of the rework?
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Post Post #49877 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:17 pm

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Silver meta is making me seriously consider maining singed.
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Post Post #49878 (ISO) » Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:12 pm

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Ankamius wrote:R as connected to a particular tier+LP combo. You will still climb as long as your win rate is >50%, it just won't look like it as first because your tier is moving towards where your MMR says your tier should be.


That's simply not true. If you use Hippo's numbers(w=15 l=23) you get a loss of -2 LP per 10 games if you win at a 60% clip. A 55%clip loses you 11 lp every 20 games. And from personal experience of boosting someone from B5 who had w=16 l=21 mmr due to playing poorly for 80 games. It took me winning at an 80 or 90% clip over 80+ games to get it back to positive gains of w=21 l=18/19. The account is now S5. I think the only reason it evened out was cause i won 15 games with it while duoing with someone at gold mmr - which I believe is the only why I've ever truly fixed a tanked mmr problem(I had to do it season 3 or 4 on my main account by duoing with the one and only Track Pad Ray and winning like 5ish games WAY over my head).
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Post Post #49879 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:44 am

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Did you boost dwlee?
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Post Post #49880 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:56 am

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Fate wrote:DWLee I do have to ask because I Played with you a month ago and you were dicking around with LB and maybe trying to learn one other champion or so

but I checked this week and you were suddenly Gold I with lvl 5 on a bunch of ADCs so


With the recent talk of account boosting I'm just asking you to come clean out of curiosity, no judgements

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mejais last item too lol

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Fate wrote:DWLee I do have to ask because I Played with you a month ago and you were dicking around with LB and maybe trying to learn one other champion or so

but I checked this week and you were suddenly Gold I with lvl 5 on a bunch of ADCs so


With the recent talk of account boosting I'm just asking you to come clean out of curiosity, no judgements

I've always been an adc main, I just liked playing LB back then (although I kinda suck with them). Rn I've just been queueing adc/top or adc/jg and been playing irelia (I am not good at them top lane because I cant transition my lane lead well yet) but with jungle I am a bit tankier and have more map presence and it is fun.
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Post Post #49881 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:58 am

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I think the point.is that if you play enough eventually the mmr will even out.
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Post Post #49882 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:09 am

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@fate, he used to pretty much only play vayne or lb and ehm, you could do vaynespotting with him. Mechanics were there, mentality sadly too. Too busy with nonimportant issues in and out of the game and looking too hard for the outplays and "carrying".

It's why I asked before, because I didn't think the only change was to easier, more team oriented picks (there was a stint of ashe picks, iirc), and suspected the focus might also be on the right things now. IDK if dwlee sees it that way.
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Post Post #49883 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:15 am

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The whole.vayne spotting thing is accurate lol.
But a lot of basic things are important. Getting better at farming, when to trade how to trade, etc. I probably coildnt tell you anything I am "doing" it is kind of just subconcious.
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Post Post #49884 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:16 am

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PJ. wrote:
Ankamius wrote:R as connected to a particular tier+LP combo. You will still climb as long as your win rate is >50%, it just won't look like it as first because your tier is moving towards where your MMR says your tier should be.


That's simply not true. If you use Hippo's numbers(w=15 l=23) you get a loss of -2 LP per 10 games if you win at a 60% clip. A 55%clip loses you 11 lp every 20 games. And from personal experience of boosting someone from B5 who had w=16 l=21 mmr due to playing poorly for 80 games. It took me winning at an 80 or 90% clip over 80+ games to get it back to positive gains of w=21 l=18/19. The account is now S5. I think the only reason it evened out was cause i won 15 games with it while duoing with someone at gold mmr - which I believe is the only why I've ever truly fixed a tanked mmr problem(I had to do it season 3 or 4 on my main account by duoing with the one and only Track Pad Ray and winning like 5ish games WAY over my head).


Well, he's right in the long-term, but as you've stated that's not heartening in the short to medium term.

In the long-run if you win at 55%, you'll start to get closer and closer to even LP gains as your MMR will be recovering even as your LP isn't.

But since we're talking about more games than a lot of people even play in a season to recover from that sometimes, it doesn't seem like it.
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Post Post #49885 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:34 am

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Post Post #49886 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:46 am

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PJ. wrote:
Ankamius wrote:R as connected to a particular tier+LP combo. You will still climb as long as your win rate is >50%, it just won't look like it as first because your tier is moving towards where your MMR says your tier should be.


That's simply not true. If you use Hippo's numbers(w=15 l=23) you get a loss of -2 LP per 10 games if you win at a 60% clip. A 55%clip loses you 11 lp every 20 games. And from personal experience of boosting someone from B5 who had w=16 l=21 mmr due to playing poorly for 80 games. It took me winning at an 80 or 90% clip over 80+ games to get it back to positive gains of w=21 l=18/19. The account is now S5. I think the only reason it evened out was cause i won 15 games with it while duoing with someone at gold mmr - which I believe is the only why I've ever truly fixed a tanked mmr problem(I had to do it season 3 or 4 on my main account by duoing with the one and only Track Pad Ray and winning like 5ish games WAY over my head).


Eventually your MMR and Tier/LP will even out over time if they're not at the same spot. If you are still raising your MMR over time, that is still climbing even if it doesn't look like it.
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Post Post #49887 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:47 am

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probably attributed relative to your role/champ/etc rather than absolutely
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Post Post #49889 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:44 am

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Post Post #49890 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:58 am

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Post Post #49891 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:30 am

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oh god plat is toxic
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Post Post #49892 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:11 am

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so i went 10/0/7 as karthus and in general i don't really ever die as him, perhaps because I'm playing him like a long range mage (my mistake before when i was lissing)
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Post Post #49893 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:32 am

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Not dying is pretty good. There may be certain cases where dying would be better for your team when playing Karthus, but the decision's pretty situational and stuff.
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Post Post #49894 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:35 am

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I really don't understand the mastery ranking system like ever.


I believe my S+ thresh game was ad thresh with a 32/8/16 300+ cs score.

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Post Post #49895 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:53 am

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did anyone else get sudden lag recently? just played a game where all 10 players started lagging at once and it persisted for the rest of the game
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Post Post #49896 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:21 am

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Post Post #49897 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:24 am

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Ankamius wrote:R as connected to a particular tier+LP combo. You will still climb as long as your win rate is >50%, it just won't look like it as first because your tier is moving towards where your MMR says your tier should be.


That's simply not true. If you use Hippo's numbers(w=15 l=23) you get a loss of -2 LP per 10 games if you win at a 60% clip. A 55%clip loses you 11 lp every 20 games. And from personal experience of boosting someone from B5 who had w=16 l=21 mmr due to playing poorly for 80 games. It took me winning at an 80 or 90% clip over 80+ games to get it back to positive gains of w=21 l=18/19. The account is now S5. I think the only reason it evened out was cause i won 15 games with it while duoing with someone at gold mmr - which I believe is the only why I've ever truly fixed a tanked mmr problem(I had to do it season 3 or 4 on my main account by duoing with the one and only Track Pad Ray and winning like 5ish games WAY over my head).


Eventually your MMR and Tier/LP will even out over time if they're not at the same spot. If you are still raising your MMR over time, that is still climbing even if it doesn't look like it.



Over the long term of say 200 games? Sure, you're climbing, but how many people play 200 games a season(and maintain a over 50 percent winrate? If you don't count the games I played boosting the b5 and only my 2 accounts, I'm at less than 70 games total. And probably won't ever get more than that.
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Post Post #49898 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:44 am

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I have 366 games this season
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Post Post #49899 (ISO) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:51 am

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