FS is now doing the same thing he did on D1 which is viciously attacking anyone who votes for him, and/or showing willingness to wagon anyone who isn't him, which is not improving my opinion of him. Can I ask you to lay off the language also? It's super unpleasant to read.
We are literally voting cerb who is townreading us. This is bullshit. I don't care how unpleasant it is, you're clearly lying about reading. Cerb is TOWNREADING us. Whole reason I chose him. He's the scum not on my wagon
Cerb would be the "willing to lynch anyone who isn't him" part of the equation. You are also, in addition, attacking everyone who votes for you *(and, no, I'm not cross-checking that comment because I don't have the ability to do so atm and you have probably not literally attacked every single person who has voted for you or expressed suspicion of you but that is about what it feels like).
↑dramonic wrote:We're gonna lose the game anyways, this town is entirely composed of people who want to sit on their dick.
^
There's my case for not making a case.
@Flubber
: Confirm/Deny that you are neighbor with TPP?
Wait, so you're saying there are three obvscum (now four assuming you include TPP), but you're just not going to put in any effort to make those lynches happen because town is so stupid that we already lost?
Why don't you replace out instead of completely wasting a slot in this game?
↑Malakittens wrote:Oh yes let's push TPP for pages and now and rage at the fact they info dumped which is what people were asking them to do anyways.
=.=
I thought I was the only one that saw this
Itlepip and cerb just got a lot scummier
For the record, Flubbernugget...I was yelling at him to not dump the info. Well, not yelling, but i made a simple, cogent case why it wouldn't be beneficial for them to share their information.
Also, you don't have to just do what people ask you to do. Just because everyone is telling you to do something which you know is the wrong thing to do, doesn't mean you have to do it. They have agency, and I'm judging them for making a bad decision using that agency.
I'm not "not going to put in any effort", but TPP is so obvscum with every post and people are apparently giving them a free pass of trashplay because "well they're not sloppy!~<3"
Take my position, if I were to claim scum right here, right now, and people called me town, would you be pleased?
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↑dramonic wrote:I'm not "not going to put in any effort", but TPP is so obvscum with every post and people are apparently giving them a free pass of trashplay because "well they're not sloppy!~<3"
Take my position, if I were to claim scum right here, right now, and people called me town, would you be pleased?
There are two people who have said that about them. Marquis, and myself. There's a bunch of other slots in the game that simply doesn't see what you see.
Show them. I don't even agree with you(clearly), but I want you actually in the game man. :-/
↑dramonic wrote:I'm not "not going to put in any effort", but TPP is so obvscum with every post and people are apparently giving them a free pass of trashplay because "well they're not sloppy!~<3"
Take my position,
if I were to claim scum right here, right now, and people called me town
I did a fair bit of chainsawing for TPP as well even though I don't have their slot as super town.
Also did everyone else miss the fact that the reason that FS is pushing Cerb out of their scumreads is that he is the scum not on their wagon b/c they were getting too much flack for OMGUSing. That isn't a towny reaction at all.
↑itlepip wrote:I did a fair bit of chainsawing for TPP as well even though I don't have their slot as super town.
Also did everyone else miss the fact that the reason that FS is pushing Cerb out of their scumreads is that he is the scum not on their wagon b/c they were getting too much flack for OMGUSing. That isn't a towny reaction at all.
Also TPP isn't even close to outed. Stop it.
Sure, it's a scummy reason. Would scum FS use that as his reason?
Also, though scummy, it's not even an unreasonable thought to have. If you are town, and everyone is tunneling on you, but you believe there's scum that's not on your wagon, which is more effective: The push that can be filed under OMGUS and ignored, or the one that can't be?
↑dramonic wrote:I'm not "not going to put in any effort", but TPP is so obvscum with every post and people are apparently giving them a free pass of trashplay because "well they're not sloppy!~<3"
Take my position, if I were to claim scum right here, right now, and people called me town, would you be pleased?
There are two people who have said that about them. Marquis, and myself. There's a bunch of other slots in the game that simply doesn't see what you see.
Show them. I don't even agree with you(clearly), but I want you actually in the game man. :-/
Ugh, fiiiiiiine =_=
Ya better be fucking grateful. Ill soup up a post later, busy right now
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i found scumstuff that i want to push more! gimme a sec, but it's relatively strong enough compared to the FS stuff that i thiiiiink it'd be quite a bit better
(psa this is going to be pretty anticlimactic because i just realized i'm going to be late to work if i full-expand now but)
↑Mirhawk wrote:If Marquis is a cop then he checked the right people.
Low activity people who scum probably won't leverage a NK against are good targets.
okaaaaaaaay guys here's where the fun actually begins. Mirhawk making this "~if~ marquis is a cop" post pushed me to do an ISO dive on him to check if this really weird unnecessary qualifications placed when talking about my role had any precedent (basically matching it up against how scum do that thing where they're all like "iffff this player is this role" to make it look like they're uninformed town who doesn't know if, whereas town surprisingly often forego that "if" and auto-assume something this believable to be true)
VOTE: Mirhawk
and while his "skeptical" stance on me post-my-claim today matches up somewhat (except him dropping my innocents as scumreads and pushes entirely, despite supposedly not fully believing my claim) I'm reasonably confident that Mirhawk is scum due to really really weird inconsistencies in his reads onnnn
Spoiler: skybird (which his read on seemed to change as the support for it did, including mentions of her in between the inconsistencies without any sort of indication of read on her)
↑Marquis wrote:My strongest scumread is still Skybird - who just jumped in, quoted the mod innocent, and unvoted (again, scum just doing the bare minimum to try and look town, with no trajectory of other reads or where to revote).
you're looking at 2534 as a scum indicative post right now. And I'm having a hard time believing that you actually believe that.
Sure, some of skybird's stuff D1 was not good stuff but how is unvoting an IC alignment indicative at all? How would Skybird reasonably expect to think that she was looking town from that move? How does the amount of effort that Skybird puts in indicative?
you're either hard confbiasing right now or just trying to get skybird lynched based on faulty premises.
Yeah, Skybird never stopped being scum. I still support this.
↑Mirhawk wrote:@Marquis
You can count me as being on the Skybird wagon. My vote isn't there, but I definitely support it.
I just don't really want to move off Cakez because I feel like if I let him slip away I'm not going to get another chance because somehow everyone isn't seeing how obviously scummy he is.
↑SirCakez wrote:So you're saying
Every single person who has a high scumread on someone needs to go indepth on their scumread on them, keep pushing the wagon forward and continuously analyze your posts? That's terrible, not every read is going to get a ton of justification.
I've never pushed wagons on Pist (except for the Miller CC, but that wasn't a scumread for anything else) or Piper, and Skybird isn't attacking me right now.
You made a hundred and fifteen posts before you got around to your justification. That's not failing to go in depth, that's failing to do anything.
What serious scumhunting did you do during that time frame that required you to not push your top read? There was none, you just kept a running commentary on the game.
The fact that skybird any pistachio aren't your scumreads is my point. You keep trying to paint this situation as you being exclusively attacked by your scumreads, and that isn't true.
↑Mirhawk wrote:I was going to make a joke about eating cake after chicken or something like that, but then I realized that was dumb.
I can play ball on this, other people are supporting this wagon now so I'm not as worried about it dying out overnight. Not to mention I'm having a hard time believing I can scrape five more votes up by the end of the day.
Unvote
Vote: Skybird
and
Spoiler: sircakez, who i'll pull up more quotes on later bc i'm rushing right now
↑Mirhawk wrote:Going to admit I've been avoiding the game because I don't want to reread day one. I'm thinking I'll just not do it, that'll help. I'm not super enguaged with what's going on today in any case. Marquis killed both of my secondary scumreads leaving me with only Cakez, and to be honest I'm getting tired of pushing him. He's obviously scum but you all have your heads up your butts and don't want to see it or something like that.
↑Mirhawk wrote:I more or less believe Nacho's response, at least in regards to the joat/neiborizer bit. I think that they handled the whole thing super friggin awkwardly but I do believe it.
I do however still have problems with the "exaggeration" over how many PR's were on the line. Not only that, but there wasn't much reason to out Cakez just now, as it's more of a matter that they think he's the vig rather then they know. Pretty much everyone and their dog was calling for a hit on snarky so I dunno.
The exaggeration was in essence a lie. A lie told to the rest of town for what benefit precisely? I'm not sure what that wizard stuff is about or how they thought it would help town, because I don't really see how it would. Just like I don't get why you would out Cakez just now when you could have just as easily defused Dwlee's argument without doing that.
I don't believe in lynch all liars, as it's stupid and inflexible in general. I do however believe that any lying being done to other members of the town does have to be for some kind of tangible benefit. If you can't trust the word of other townies the game become exponentially more difficult for town.
I'm not seeing a benefit in saying you had to out multiple PR's to explain your read on Tictac, would you care to explain it to me.
Also pushing Dwlee for this is dumb. He noticed a clear discrepancy in the information Piper was providing and pushed it. Saying he should have made an intuitive leap and known that Piper wasn't saying their information came from their role is stupid. It's so much easier to say it was obvious in hindsight and everyone who's saying he should have noticed it is being scummy as hell, if it's so obvious why weren't any of you saying anything about it over the last couple days.
↑Mirhawk wrote:Also Cakez, it'd be super cool if you didn't shoot me if you are the vig.
...who mirhawk goes from
>a massive push and top scumread when skybird was gaining traction
>to word for word "to be honest I'm getting tired of pushing him [sircakez]. He's obviously scum but you all have your heads up your butts"
>to somehow immediately believing tpp's crumb pickup claims despite scumreading tpp intensely, immediately treating cakez like town, and practically catering to cakez with like no mention of any paranoia or anything, which makes no sense given he was your biggest scumread toward the end of day 2
i have to go but like what the heck how was this not visible before
his treatment of skybird + tpp + cakez + me_and_my_innos is inconsistent and nonsensical to various degrees
yeah looked again to see if it was just a moment of desperation but man i am really seeing this every single time i go back into it
bbl but if people who love me and believe in me this game want to join me here (including you, FS and mala and dave!) please please do because man i just found my footing again! and it feels rly rly good :)
I'm a hoot
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-If you stick your ear close enough to the game thread you can actually hear dram suffer in real life.-Beeboy
-Being obtuse is not a consequence of being a mod, it's a prerequisite. I think you may just have overestimated my intelligence before.-Korts
I'm a hoot
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-If you stick your ear close enough to the game thread you can actually hear dram suffer in real life.-Beeboy
-Being obtuse is not a consequence of being a mod, it's a prerequisite. I think you may just have overestimated my intelligence before.-Korts
