A Musical Mafia! (Game over)

[Dwlee99]

do i seriously have to compromise lynch

[podoboq]

I think that calling Cakez vig is obviously garbage, and I think it's a lie rather than something you legitimately believe.

Okay, let's talk about this first. Why do you believe that it's a lie as opposed to something I could legitimately believe?

you claim to be a lot better than all of the newbs, I'm a newb, and I know that Cakez isn't the vig

You should be better at figuring that out than I am.

[The Pied Piper]

They later admitted that the only PR they would have to out was Tictac himself. This was in 4302.

How on earth is that your interpretation of 4302?

Also see this post:

"We were crumbing an innocent on tictac."
"Why, what information role do you have?"
"We don't have an information role."
"Oh, so you are lying???"
"No, we crumbed an innocent on tictac because he said some shit in our neighborhood that seemed really town."
"Why would you do this?"
"Well, tictac is bulletproof and we told him to activate his bulletproof because we thought the vig shot him."
"Why did you think this?"

Explaining a question only brings two more.

[The Pied Piper]

you claim to be a lot better than all of the newbs, I'm a newb, and I know that Cakez isn't the vig

You should be better at figuring that out than I am.

You know that Cakez isn't the vig? How?

[The Pied Piper]

When I sa

[The Pied Piper]

When I say that I'm better than a lot of newer players, it doesn't mean that I'm right 100% of the time more than they are. It means that I can appeal to a wider range of audiences when scum (because I've seen more playstyles than they have) and I can generally understand where people are coming from more often as town and avoid common pitfalls (because I've fallen into them before).

[podoboq]

you claim to be a lot better than all of the newbs, I'm a newb, and I know that Cakez isn't the vig

You should be better at figuring that out than I am.

You know that Cakez isn't the vig? How?

Unlike you, I have no interest in revealing that, because I'm more worried about the vig getting nightkilled than you believing me.

[The Pied Piper]

So you know that Cakez is the vig because you know who the real vig is?

[Dwlee99]

who am I compromise lynching
@FS @Dramonic @Sircakez @Mirhawk

[The Pied Piper]

For some indescribable reason? Or you know that Cakez isn't the vig because you know what his real role is?

[The Pied Piper]

Why would you bring up that you know Cakez isn't the vig if you don't want to talk about it?

[podoboq]

So you know that Cakez is the vig because you know who the real vig is?

Isn't*, and yeah, to my knowledge. I'm confident enough that I think you're lying, rather than me just being wrong. I also don't think you have good cause to believe Cakez is vig in the first place.

[The Pied Piper]

OK.
Why would I lie about thinking Cakez is the vig?

[podoboq]

Why would you bring up that you know Cakez isn't the vig if you don't want to talk about it?

Not wanting to talk about it is not the same as not wanting to reveal who I think the vig is.

[The Pied Piper]

As scum, you're claiming to "know" all this stuff about the town, and presenting yourself as an easy leader. It's clearly working, because most people townread you, and most people are trusting what you're saying, especially in a game where it appears a lot of players just aren't reading, and are inclined to trust the player who seems to be doing the most.

People naturally regard us as a leader because we post a lot of posts and we post long posts. Getting a leader position that we already have by being loud by saying we "know things" about player's roles but having no capacity whatsoever to back it up is... stupid as shit, and doesn't make sense as scum motivation since it means we could get caught by people asking "what are the roles?".

[The Pied Piper]

Why would you bring up that you know Cakez isn't the vig if you don't want to talk about it?

Not wanting to talk about it is not the same as not wanting to reveal who I think the vig is.

(that wasn't a serious question)

[podoboq]

OK.
Why would I lie about thinking Cakez is the vig?

As town, to conceal who it actually is and get the scum to target someone who isn't the vig.

As scum, to convince town that you are useful.

[The Pied Piper]

As scum, to convince town that you are useful.

And why would I do this when the town already thinks that I am useful?

[dramonic]

who am I compromise lynching
@FS @Dramonic @Sircakez @Mirhawk

TPP or Axel.

vote: TPP

[podoboq]

As scum, you're claiming to "know" all this stuff about the town, and presenting yourself as an easy leader. It's clearly working, because most people townread you, and most people are trusting what you're saying, especially in a game where it appears a lot of players just aren't reading, and are inclined to trust the player who seems to be doing the most.

People naturally regard us as a leader because we post a lot of posts and we post long posts. Getting a leader position that we already have by being loud by saying we "know things" about player's roles but having no capacity whatsoever to back it up is... stupid as shit, and doesn't make sense as scum motivation since it means we could get caught by people asking "what are the roles?".

Meta. You're appealing to knowledge I don't have. I see clear scum motivation here. But hey, fair argument. Taken note of.

[dramonic]

As scum, to convince town that you are useful.

And why would I do this when the town already thinks that I am useful?

Wonder how long Nacho can pretend these posts don't exist.

[Dwlee99]

who am I compromise lynching
@FS @Dramonic @Sircakez @Mirhawk

TPP or Axel.

vote: TPP

people dont want tpp lynched. do you want to move to axel?

[podoboq]

As scum, to convince town that you are useful.

And why would I do this when the town already thinks that I am useful?

You were under a lot of suspicion. For a while, you had me convinced, even though I didn't believe the call in the first place. I don't know, it seems like a valuable play to make. When a lot of people are questioning you, it's gutsy, but it makes sense, and when you can just argue "I got it from reading crumbs, I could be wrong," and I think the other thing is true anyway, it's not really that big of a risk.

[The Pied Piper]

Meta. You're appealing to knowledge I don't have. I see clear scum motivation here. But hey, fair argument. Taken note of.

I'm appealing to what was happening earlier in the game; people were already looking at us as a leader before the whole claim business, and it's not like there's a player in the game who would go "they say they know things! they must be town and a leader!" and not "they're busting their ass this game and look at all that pushing they're doing! they must be town and a leader!"

[podoboq]

who am I compromise lynching
@FS @Dramonic @Sircakez @Mirhawk

TPP or Axel.

vote: TPP

people dont want tpp lynched. do you want to move to axel?

I think TPP is a bit more likely to happen here, and it's more important to lynch either them or FS here. Move to TPP. It can be done.