Micro 609: DC Dual Universes uPick - Game over!

[Soren]

Checking in, I have no extra comments since my last post

[Xkfyu]

Meh I see your point. I just.. don't like that it doesn't feel like he's actually trying to scumhunt. Did he really have no better options than to pressure vote me on page 8? It'd be different if he had said "I don't like this post by Lilith, this is a combined pressure + explain yourself vote" but he basically said he had no reason to vote me other than that I'd been inactive. Which is completely NAI, you saw the math game.

I see your point too, and I agree that it's NAI for you. I just know that not every vote will move the game forward.

Honestly though, he did bring up a decent enough point. Your RVS vote is still on me, even though you have me listed reasonably high up in your read list.

Care to weigh in on the Kuroi Snarky-scumread-townread issue above?

It doesn't really make sense to me. In fact, I was assuming that he really meant "scum" instead of that first "town" in 220.

Kuroi town reading Snarky here (because he is scum reading him) sounds a lot like the "too scummy to be scum" argument, which I have always thought is a ridiculous argument.

[lilith2013]

Argh I just don't have any strong enough reads to feel like my vote should be anywhere in particular. I think lane is town and I think TTH is probably town and beyond that it's really just different shades of null.

[Xkfyu]

Argh I just don't have any strong enough reads to feel like my vote should be anywhere in particular. I think lane is town and I think TTH is probably town and beyond that it's really just different shades of null.

How do you feel about my town read on you?

[lilith2013]

Can't decide. I don't think you're the kind of person who relies on gut reads, but as lane was saying, there's no reason for you to make up reads at this point, especially on people who haven't been posting a lot. I can't decide whether I think this is you buddying up to me once again (ugh) or just that you're able to read me now?? But we were only town together in one game.

[Xkfyu]

Can't decide. I don't think you're the kind of person who relies on gut reads, but as lane was saying, there's no reason for you to make up reads at this point, especially on people who haven't been posting a lot. I can't decide whether I think this is you buddying up to me once again (ugh) or just that you're able to read me now?? But we were only town together in one game.

We aren't town together IN THIS GAME?!?!

[lilith2013]

Well I can't tell if you're town here!!

[lilith2013]

More seriously though, we only have two completed games together and I was town in both of them so that makes me want to think you know how to read me properly.. BUT you said your read was mostly gut, not based on tone or whatever which is at least how I usually read people I've played with before. Do you want to elaborate on what you mean by "gut"?

[lilith2013]

Gah why are you so hard to read.. I just feel all my paranoia bubbling up again

[Xkfyu]

Well I can't tell if you're town here!!

Lol ok. Fair enough.

Well, I think you did tell me that you were never gonna let me buddy up to you ever again, and I did believe you.

More seriously though, we only have two completed games together and I was town in both of them so that makes me want to think you know how to read me properly.. BUT you said your read was mostly gut, not based on tone or whatever which is at least how I usually read people I've played with before. Do you want to elaborate on what you mean by "gut"?

I don't know. I like early gut reads just as much as the next person. What I mean by "gut" though, is when I read your posts, they don't feel any different to me than our previous two games, when you were town.

Of course, that approach assumes that they WOULD feel different, if you were scum, which I obviously can't say for sure.

Gah why are you so hard to read.. I just feel all my paranoia bubbling up again

Now this is the kind of reaction I was expecting from you (if you're town), in respect to my town read on you.

In your defense though, it's probably my own fault that you have a hard time reading me. Like I said to Something_Smart in Math's Mafia, I make no real effort to "look townie." I just post what I think I need to post in order to solve the game. Sometimes people town read me for it, and sometimes people scum read me for it.

[Xkfyu]

UNVOTE: Javajoe24

VOTE: KuroiXHF

[lane0168]

Yeah I'm going to go back to that. Mostly because kuroi was defending his scum read, saying if he'll come back to it or he ever can, and then the blatant contradiction, and then saying he only had him there cause he doesn't trust him. If that was true he would've just said that first. He just got caught

VOTE: kuroi

[lilith2013]

Okay I guess I'm good with this.

VOTE: kuroi

[lilith2013]

Xk, why the move from joe to kuroi?

[lilith2013]

Well I can't tell if you're town here!!

Lol ok. Fair enough.

Well, I think you did tell me that you were never gonna let me buddy up to you ever again, and I did believe you.

More seriously though, we only have two completed games together and I was town in both of them so that makes me want to think you know how to read me properly.. BUT you said your read was mostly gut, not based on tone or whatever which is at least how I usually read people I've played with before. Do you want to elaborate on what you mean by "gut"?

I don't know. I like early gut reads just as much as the next person. What I mean by "gut" though, is when I read your posts, they don't feel any different to me than our previous two games, when you were town.

Of course, that approach assumes that they WOULD feel different, if you were scum, which I obviously can't say for sure.

Gah why are you so hard to read.. I just feel all my paranoia bubbling up again

Now this is the kind of reaction I was expecting from you (if you're town), in respect to my town read on you.

In your defense though, it's probably my own fault that you have a hard time reading me. Like I said to Something_Smart in Math's Mafia, I make no real effort to "look townie." I just post what I think I need to post in order to solve the game. Sometimes people town read me for it, and sometimes people scum read me for it.

Why am I so indecisive about you

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: kuroi for L-1

[Xkfyu]

Xk, why the move from joe to kuroi?

Trying to mix things up.

[lane0168]

See you on earth 2 kuroi

[Xkfyu]

See you on earth 2 kuroi

Um...what?

[lilith2013]

VOTE: kuroi for L-1

What happened to your vote on Xk?

[lilith2013]

Xk, why the move from joe to kuroi?

Trying to mix things up.

Are you scumreading him?

[lane0168]

See you on earth 2 kuroi

Um...what?

I said... See you on earth 2 kuroi

[lane0168]

Oh lol.... We only switch after a mislynch. I get your reaction now

[Xkfyu]

Xk, why the move from joe to kuroi?

Trying to mix things up.

Are you scumreading him?

Enough so that I'm fine with his lynch.

I think the way he came off of his scum read on me was too easy, and it didn't really feel natural to me. It was also very convenient in that it happened right after I stated interest in scum reading Snarky.

Speaking of which, his read on Snarky seemed illogical.

[Xkfyu]

Oh lol.... We only switch after a mislynch. I get your reaction now

Yep, that would be the reason. You aren't playing dumb to cover up a slip now, are you?