Micro 609: DC Dual Universes uPick - Game over!

Clumsy · Post Post #300 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:37 am

I gotta head back to work, but I'll be back on tonight.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #301 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:38 am

My role doesn't matter so a claim is useless. (Though since I have nothing to lose, I'm a vanilla town.)

Worry about what I'm saying more than my role.

Xkfyu · Post Post #302 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:44 am

UNVOTE: KuroiXHF

lane0168 · Post Post #303 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:46 am

What's going on xk?

Xkfyu · Post Post #304 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:46 am

In post 299, lane0168 wrote:
In post 298, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 296, lane0168 wrote:2
You can see how that doesn't add up, right?
Yeah... And?

Surely you don't need me to point out the faulty logic there.

Xkfyu · Post Post #305 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:47 am

In post 303, lane0168 wrote:What's going on xk?

I believe him.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #306 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:49 am

To clarify my last role, I didn't mean my role doesn't mean just because I'm a VT; I mean my role doesn't matter because if I told you I was a cop, it wouldn't change whether you'd see me as scum or not.

lane0168 · Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:50 am

In post 192, KuroiXHF wrote:Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Lilith, Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe
Lean Scum: Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman
Strong Scum: Lane

In post 234, lilith2013 wrote:

Here where's I am.

lane
TTH
Xkfyu/Soren/Snarky
Kuroi/Javajoe/Clumsy

Maybe I don't need you to explain it. But you'll have to explain why that's a problem now, and hasn't been a problem with you before

Xkfyu · Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:52 am

In post 306, KuroiXHF wrote:To clarify my last role, I didn't mean my role doesn't mean just because I'm a VT; I mean my role doesn't matter because if I told you I was a cop, it wouldn't change whether you'd see me as scum or not.

If you would have claimed Cop, I wouldn't have necessarily believed you outright, but I would have still unvoted, and let the night actions sort you.

Claiming VT here though, does lead me to believing you outright.

KuroiXHF · Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:55 am

In post 308, Xkfyu wrote:Claiming VT here though, does lead me to believing you outright.

Bad plan. This is a game of deception. If I'm scum, it's my obligation to lie to you.

Xkfyu · Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:55 am

In post 307, lane0168 wrote:
In post 192, KuroiXHF wrote:Strong Town: TelltaleHeart
Lean Town: Lilith, Clumsy
Null: Soren, Javajoe
Lean Scum: Xkfyu, SnarkySnowman
Strong Scum: Lane

In post 234, lilith2013 wrote:

Here where's I am.

lane
TTH
Xkfyu/Soren/Snarky
Kuroi/Javajoe/Clumsy

Maybe I don't need you to explain it. But you'll have to explain why that's a problem now, and hasn't been a problem with you before

Having 3 scum reads in a game where there is very likely to have 2 isn't the problem.

However, using the fact that 2 of your scum reads don't like the wagon that just formed on your 3rd scum read as evidence that the wagon is good, is a problem, because no matter what, at least one of them is town.

Xkfyu · Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 8:58 am

In post 309, KuroiXHF wrote:
In post 308, Xkfyu wrote:Claiming VT here though, does lead me to believing you outright.
Bad plan. This is a game of deception. If I'm scum, it's my obligation to lie to you.

Here we go with the Mafia lessons again.

You sure you don't just want to accept the town read and move on?

KuroiXHF · Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:02 am

It's my job to persuade people to find scum. I'm probably stricter than others but it's against our best interest if you town read people for bad reasons. Of course I know I'm town but you can just as easily town read scum.

Xkfyu · Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:05 am

In post 312, KuroiXHF wrote:It's my job to persuade people to find scum. I'm probably stricter than others but it's against our best interest if you town read people for bad reasons. Of course I know I'm town but you can just as easily town read scum.

So, you're saying that claiming VT at L-1 here is a bad reason to town read you?

ISO · Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:05 am

Votecount 1.6

KuroiXHF (3) - lane0168, lilith2013, SnarkySnowman
lane0168 (2) - KuroiXHF, Clumsy
Javajoe24 (1) - TellTaleHeart
Xkfyu (1) - Javajoe24
Clumsy (1) - Soren

Not voting (1) - Xkfyu

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-05-20 06:55:00) remain until day end

KuroiXHF · Post Post #315 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:05 am

In post 313, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 312, KuroiXHF wrote:It's my job to persuade people to find scum. I'm probably stricter than others but it's against our best interest if you town read people for bad reasons. Of course I know I'm town but you can just as easily town read scum.
So, you're saying that claiming VT at L-1 here is a bad reason to town read you?

No. I just don't want you to think I'm town just because I claimed VT.

But whatever, I'll take it.

lane0168 · Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:06 am

Not following. If one of my scum reads is against it, I like that. If two of them are, that's even better odds that a scum is against the wagon.

Why do you say no matter what, at least one of them are town? Why can't they both be scum?

Xkfyu · Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:08 am

In post 316, lane0168 wrote:Not following. If one of my scum reads is against it, I like that. If two of them are, that's even better odds that a scum is against the wagon.

Why do you say no matter what, at least one of them are town? Why can't they both be scum?

They CAN both be scum, but that would mean that the wagon (the one on your 3rd scum read) would definitely be on town.

lane0168 · Post Post #318 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:10 am

True, but I don't know kuroi's alignment. Do you?

KuroiXHF · Post Post #319 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:14 am

In post 318, lane0168 wrote:True, but I don't know kuroi's alignment. Do you?

Yes.

Xkfyu · Post Post #320 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:16 am

In post 318, lane0168 wrote:True, but I don't know kuroi's alignment. Do you?

I don't. Not for sure. But Kuroi's alignment is totally irrelevant to my point. My point was simply that your logic was completely invalid.

lane0168 · Post Post #321 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:17 am

Ok. Then don't follow it.

TellTaleHeart · Post Post #322 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:20 am

In post 313, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 312, KuroiXHF wrote:It's my job to persuade people to find scum. I'm probably stricter than others but it's against our best interest if you town read people for bad reasons. Of course I know I'm town but you can just as easily town read scum.
So, you're saying that claiming VT at L-1 here is a bad reason to town read you?

Yes, that's a terrible reason.

You've been here longer than I have and you're telling me you've never seen scum claim VT?

Xkfyu · Post Post #323 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:21 am

In post 322, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 313, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 312, KuroiXHF wrote:It's my job to persuade people to find scum. I'm probably stricter than others but it's against our best interest if you town read people for bad reasons. Of course I know I'm town but you can just as easily town read scum.
So, you're saying that claiming VT at L-1 here is a bad reason to town read you?
Yes, that's a terrible reason.

You've been here longer than I have and you're telling me you've never seen scum claim VT?

And I've played on other sites, as well. Sure I have, but I think he's telling the truth here.

lane0168 · Post Post #324 (ISO) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:33 am

In post 306, KuroiXHF wrote:To clarify my last role, I didn't mean my role doesn't mean just because I'm a VT; I mean my role doesn't matter because if I told you I was a cop, it wouldn't change whether you'd see me as scum or not.

I got a serious issue with this post... Why would claiming cop even be an option if you're vanilla Townie? This just looks like you thought about claiming cop, but then thought maybe vanilla Townie would be most believable