Mini 1793: Freedom's Call (uPick Anything): Finale

[Yume]

Go ahead, lynch me. I welcome it with open arms. My plan was to get you to make me dead anyway, so go ahead.

Accidentally changed this post while updating votecount. Has been fixed; not actually changed in any way.

[RadiantCowbells]

Votecount 2.16:

Ircher (4): Ranger, Demonic Angel, Yume, WhiteLight
WhiteLight (3): Gammagooey, Postie, Ircher,
The Limit Does Not Exist (0):
Postie (0):
Arabella (0):
Yume (0):
Gammagooey (0):
Demonic Angel (0):
Ranger (0):

Not Voting (2): Arabella, The Limit Does Not Exist,

With 9 alive it's 5 to lynch.

Day ends in (expired on 2016-06-03 22:00:00).

[The Limit Does Not Exist]

Yume, lilith would like to know whom you protected.
-smart

[Yume]

That info is on the last page.

[Ircher]

Why ya being so indirect?
Postie I'm guessing?

[Ranger]

{Postie}
{Arabella}
{Gammagooey}
{Yume, Demonic Angel}
{Ircher, WhiteLight}
Mkay, this is where I'm at as of 289. I buy what Anti was selling, and I think he got nightkilled for it.

[Yume]

Because I have to be.

[Ranger]

It's hard to explain but 133 and 138 ping me as super town.

I'd actually buy that.

{Postie}
{Arabella}
{Gammagooey, Yume}
{Demonic Angel}
{Ircher, WhiteLight}

That's conftown, strong town, town, weak town, and scum by the way.

Ok, so Angel is also town cuz their role is confirmed when a scum flips.

Not necessarily. Know who also knows that scum have a scum in the neighborhood?

Scum. As in, scum outside the neighborhood will know there's scum inside the neighborhood if there's scum inside the neighborhood.

[Postie]

Why is Arabella so high up on your list, Ranger?

Also, I really don't like how Ircher has more votes than obvscum right now. It's making me really fucking uncomfortable. I'm pretty sure the last scum is between Ircher/Arabella, but we haven't really heard from Arabella yet so can we take Ircher off L-1 for now before someone derphammers please?

[Ranger]

Why is Arabella so high up on your list, Ranger?

Because I buy the townread on them.

But that being said: Yume's protective role claim is definitely believable. So,
{Postie}
{Yume}
{Arabella}
{Gammagooey}
{Demonic Angel}
{Ircher, WhiteLight}
This is where I'm at right now.

Also, I really don't like how Ircher has more votes than obvscum right now.

We know that there's a scum in the neighborhood. Ergo, we should lynch Ircher. If he is scum, we now know both Arabella and Yume are town. If he flips town, we now know that Arabella is likely scum. (Like I said, I buy the protective role claim from Yume.) Ergo, Ircher should be lynched today.

We can deal with White Light tomorrow. I agree they're probably scum. But keep in mind we have a cop, somewhere in the players unclaimed. So unless Ircher claims cop, we can wait to lynch WhiteLight until tomorrow.

[Postie]

Because I buy the townread on them.

What townread?

We know that there's a scum in the neighborhood. Ergo, we should lynch Ircher. If he is scum, we now know both Arabella and Yume are town. If he flips town, we now know that Arabella is likely scum. (Like I said, I buy the protective role claim from Yume.) Ergo, Ircher should be lynched today.

We can deal with White Light tomorrow. I agree they're probably scum. But keep in mind we have a cop, somewhere in the players unclaimed. So unless Ircher claims cop, we can wait to lynch WhiteLight until tomorrow.

True, but it's a choice between one player who looks super obvscum and a 50/50 shot of hitting scum between two players. And I think the chances of WhiteLight flipping scum are a lot higher than 50/50.
I could maybe do Ircher if Arabella towns things up, but I'm not sure I fucking buy that both the leading wagons are on scum right now.

[Ranger]

What townread?

Anti's.

We know there's a scum in the neighborhood. We know Antihero was killed, probably in part for his reads. I buy his townread on Arabella being accurate.

True, but it's a choice between one player who looks super obvscum and a 50/50 shot of hitting scum between two players. And I think the chances of WhiteLight flipping scum are a lot higher than 50/50.

I agree White Light is scum, but I also think Ircher is obvscum and their interactions are painfully obviously scum-scum. Given this, I think lynching Ircher first is ideal.

[Arabella]

Ok, I'm here and catching up.

I don't even think Ari's playing, so I'll see what I've missed.

Postie, what do you want from me? Throw some questions my way if it'd help

[Arabella]

Ok, so Angel is also town cuz their role is confirmed when a scum flips.

That leaves {Gamma, Ircher, Whitelight, Ranger, Yume, Arabella, Limit).

Put of those, I feel Limit --> Yume --> Arabella are scum, in that order.

This is gross, especially after Anti's interactions with me. Later, you say we're moving slow, but you AND yume's contributions to the neighbourhood were questionable.

Demonic is conf town cuz a scumflip from the neighborhood confirms their role.

....ALSO: this is super skeevy. if someone in the neighbourhood is scum, they could just....tell scum that? It doesn't conf!town demonic: scum!demonic would also know the scum in the neighbourhood, bc they talk. @everyone, I'm not crazy here, right?

Hey, guys, I'm finally here. I'll be super busy all week, though I'll try to find time for this.

Wow, though, this game looks solvable. Postie is town, Demonic is probably town, Ranger and Gamma are strong townreads, and I'm having a very hard time visualizing a scumteam that's not Ircher/WhiteLight.

This does not feel like beeboy's town play at all; besides misrepping my meta and my play this game, there's Ranger's points and I'm sure there's other stuff I'm forgetting (whenever I have to catch up, I form reads but I tend to forget the individual reasons for them). Ircher's play has been similarly weak and his townread on White followed by a vote on them is the most awkward thing I've seen in a long time.

I'd be comfortable voting either one, but I don't see the need to have another short day since we've got time.
-smart

I like this head. anti was concerned about lilith's inexperience as scum, but liked the slot's general thought process.

Town: Ranger, Postie
Scum: WhiteLight, Ircher

This is backed up by the deceased.

This is super not true, to throw ircher in there...also, he came back to say limit was prolly town.

Also, I only know what conftown, Antihero, said about stuff and am using that as a crutch for my own thoughts. Also, I have real life to deal with too, but I suppose being busy irl doesn't mean anything. This is just a game, chill out. Real life is far more important, something that no one here seems to respect, given that you call out people for 'not scumhunting' because or irl issues.

P.S: Yes, I am if that makes you feel any better, but read what Antihero said in our PT as a response to my softclaim there.

P.P.S: Ranger is town because Antihero said so, my thoughts on WL are similar to majority of people here, Ircher and Bella are scumreads by PoE. That good enough?

Why do both ircher and yume think there could be 2 scum in the neighbourhood? Also, anti wanted to vig yume Later, Yume mentions a bunch of posts in the neighbourhood, but they don't seem to say what he thinks they are?

Just clarifying a few things. Also, ircher thinks i'm scum bc we're hated, btw. o.0

[Arabella]

@ranger, what's your read on the limit slot?

[Arabella]

Oh, Ranger's 382 gets it about the scum neighbourhood thing. Fucking finally, thought I was crazy.

[Arabella]

Sorry to spam, but worth thinking about: ' We're an informed townie. At least one member of the Intellectuals Neighborhood is scum.' is a really weird way to reveal thee is a neighboorhood? Like, it assumes everyone knows. Might be overthinking.

[Postie]

We know there's a scum in the neighborhood. We know Antihero was killed, probably in part for his reads. I buy his townread on Arabella being accurate.

Oh,

that

townread. Fair enough.

True, but it's a choice between one player who looks super obvscum and a 50/50 shot of hitting scum between two players. And I think the chances of WhiteLight flipping scum are a lot higher than 50/50.

I agree White Light is scum, but I also think Ircher is obvscum and their interactions are painfully obviously scum-scum. Given this, I think lynching Ircher first is ideal.

I want to hear a bit more from Arabella first but Anti's townread might just be enough to tip me in favour of lynching Ircher.
What are the chances of Demonic Angel having lied about there being confirmed scum in the neighbourhood?

Postie, what do you want from me? Throw some questions my way if it'd help

Reads and shit would be a good place to start.

[Arabella]

Have spammed with my 'shit'

Reads:

Town: you, me, ranger
null-town: gamma
null: limit, ?yume?
scum-y: demonic, ircher
sum: white light.

[Ranger]

@ranger, what's your read on the limit slot?

Definitely not scum with White Light (who I am heavily scumreading). I'd like more from the lilith half, and Something_Smart's posts aren't remarkable, but they're not someone to lynch any time soon.

What are the chances of Demonic Angel having lied about there being confirmed scum in the neighbourhood?

How would he know about the neighborhood as scum unless there was scum inside?

Oh, that townread. Fair enough.

Also, hated is not a modifier oft-given to scum.

[Ircher]

I actually did not think of that possibility......

That sounds more plausible though.....

[Postie]

How would he know about the neighborhood as scum unless there was scum inside?

Oh yeah. For some strange fucking reason I thought Demonic Angel was part of the neighbourhood.

[Demonic Angel]

There's no way Ircher town would be so accepting of our claim.

The fact that we didn't claim until today AFTER a neighbor had flipped, why wouldn't he be cautious of a scum DEmonic Angel-WHO HE WAS SUPPOSEDLY SCUMREADING HARDEST OUT OF ANYONE IN THEFUCKING GAME-gambiting in order mislynch 4 people?

ESPECIALLY if he himself knew himself to be town. And if I check his scumreads and don't see a single one in his neighborhood thats even more icing on the cake.

BASICALLY. SCUM IRCHER HAS THE SAME INFORMATION AS US WHICH IS WHY HE BELIEVES OUR CLAIM. HE KNOWS THERE IS SCUM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE HE IS THAT SCUM. FULL STEAM LYNCH AHEAD.

[Ircher]

Or, maybe town!Ircher never thought of that scenario. Its an easy oversight.

[Ircher]

Also, wouldn't scum!Ircher want to keep that lynch open?