New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Lowell]

@Magna, IMMA HAMMER NEWBS!

[MagnaofIllusion]

When I caught Oceanwind scum

Wait Oceanwind is a Pers alt?

Nosferatu - lean town. I disagree with Nos on Cy scumclaiming, but only through my own experience. I see where he gets it from. I like 444. I highly think Shotty just selectively responded rather than clicking on just a solitary link. I would like to hear more from Nos.

Please explain how that ISO is lean Town. There is very little content there. Literally my fact when I saw this was …

The fact that these wagons aren't getting pushed very hard is indicative of the fact that there aren't many or any scum on your or ircher's wagon.

Are you floating the concept that Ircher’s wagon was not being pushed very hard? The fact that it has gone away doesn’t mean it wasn’t strongly fueled.

[Persivul]

This is bad. Just terrible. Of course people can be held up to scrutiny for votes with little or no reasoning. Suggesting that a lack of reasons in ETL’s personal ISO for the Brawl vote should be excused because others have listed valid reasons doesn’t make sense.

In general? Sure. But if I say hey here's a good wagon, then scum read people who join it, that's suspect. But, I'm getting over it. I was hoping to get more pressure on Titus to see her reaction. In a game in which we were both scum, she took pressure D1 and played poorly, just going after someone for suggesting a PL, and she got lynched. Here, she's misrepping me, and I find that concerning, but otherwise she looks pretty confident, which again I didn't see in her scum D1 play.

Especially in light of the circumstances where ETL was calling Titus scum. Why would Town ETL sheep her scum read Titus’s reasoning on a player?

Yes, that concerns me. Further, I have two games with ETL. She was scum in one and town in the other, and her tone here is closer to the scum game then the town game. But, it's not a black or white thing.

[Persivul]

Wait Oceanwind is a Pers alt?

No, I was scum with Oceanwind and Ranger. Titus pushed Ocean D1, but I got Titus lynched instead.

[MagnaofIllusion]

No, I was scum with Oceanwind and Ranger. Titus pushed Ocean D1, but I got Titus lynched instead.

Thanks, that clears that up.

[Persivul]

Yeah, at first I didn't like how she turned on me for what I thought were reasonable points, but considering that game I can see where town!Titus would remember that game and scum read me here.

[SirCakez]

Votecount 1.12

Victoria Falls at the border of Zambia and Zimbabwe!

SethYazura (4) - copper223, Nosferatu, Aneninen, projectmatt
TehBrawlGuy (4) - Titus, MagnaOfIllusion, SethYazura, Killthestory
heuristically_alone (3) - zakk, TehBrawlGuy, Lowell
Titus (3) - drmyshottyiszik, Persivul, EspeciallyTheLies
Killthestory (2) - I Am Innocent, Expedience
cytheflyguy (2) - Ircher, heuristically_alone
Ircher (2) - Egg, cytheflyguy

Not voting (1) - Desmond_13

With 21 alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch someone.

(expired on 2016-06-02 14:10:00) remain until day end

EspeciallyTheLies is V/LA until May 31.
Ircher will be V/LA from May 30 to June 3.

[SirCakez]

Cytheflyguy has been prodded.

Desmond_13 did not pick up his prod and will be replaced.

[SirCakez]

Nahdia replaces Desmond_13! Please welcome her.

[Nahdia]

hey folks i'll start catching up in a bit. anything super important i should know before i start?

[drmyshottyizsik]

When I caught Oceanwind scum

Wait Oceanwind is a Pers alt?

Nosferatu - lean town. I disagree with Nos on Cy scumclaiming, but only through my own experience. I see where he gets it from. I like 444. I highly think Shotty just selectively responded rather than clicking on just a solitary link. I would like to hear more from Nos.

Please explain how that ISO is lean Town. There is very little content there. Literally my fact when I saw this was …

The fact that these wagons aren't getting pushed very hard is indicative of the fact that there aren't many or any scum on your or ircher's wagon.

Are you floating the concept that Ircher’s wagon was not being pushed very hard? The fact that it has gone away doesn’t mean it wasn’t strongly fueled.

My point is people are saying the same scum on Ircher's wagon jump over to titus. I think it is much more likely that this is town jump from scum to another scum. If it were scum jumping around the wagons would have waited for town and pushed really hard. It's not that the wagons weren't fueled strongly, it's that enough of the town had other reads and scum wasn't going to start bussing yet.

[Persivul]

You can trust shotty on that, he's an expert on bussing...

[drmyshottyizsik]

You can trust shotty on that, he's an expert on bussing...

oh you, but seriously.

[Persivul]

BUSSED SO HARD!!!

[drmyshottyizsik]

BUSSED SO HARD!!!

Not this time sadly I'm town.

[Persivul]

What do you think about zakk?

[drmyshottyizsik]

What do you think about zakk?

No sir, I don't like it.

[Persivul]

No sir, I don't like it.

Why not?

[drmyshottyizsik]

VOTE: Ircher

why?

Its RVS.

Why are you already defending him?

VOTE: Ircher

Sheeping too hard.

Lol.

can you pls provide at least 4 reasons why ircher is town


p-edit: welp i wonder if thats real

He is trying to comfirm ircher scum, not by ircher being scum but rather by someone else's inability to provide x reason for him being town.

@Ircher
Nice, I can already tell you are more sure of yourself compared to when we played the first time.

@dr
Increased likelyhood of getting a read compared to another random, but since Ircher's been playing a lot that's not necessarily true anymore.

And the cooper ircher buddying continues!
VOTE: ircher
I'm almost sure of this now.

What happen to general chat?

But, if you find that scummy then:

VOTE: Shotty
For being opportunistic in play and deciding that general chit-chat is scum-indicative when it clearly isnt.

you can't vote you're dead.

Seriously did anyone take my fake vig seriously? Zakk seemed to have, and kinda wanted to run with it.

@Ircher
Nice, I can already tell you are more sure of yourself compared to when we played the first time.

@dr
Increased likelyhood of getting a read compared to another random, but since Ircher's been playing a lot that's not necessarily true anymore.

And the cooper ircher buddying continues!
VOTE: ircher
I'm almost sure of this now.

What happen to general chat?

But, if you find that scummy then:

VOTE: Shotty
For being opportunistic in play and deciding that general chit-chat is scum-indicative when it clearly isnt.

you can't vote you're dead.

I'm not dead.

Spoiler: nonsense you'll be stone dead in a moment

He is beating my dead horse, this is scummy as hell.

Only 5/21 players have posted so far and we're already on page 3, almost page 4...

Unvote

I'll be back when there's something worth reading...

Providing an excuse to lurk, scummy.

PEDIT: I guess its pick on Orcher day........

scumplaining

vote: ircher

peeeeerfect example/comparison for this, which i will talk about literally as soon as i can

Scumplaining? More like conf bias.

I don't feel like Titus copper case is invalid, mayhaps I should've just said I'm not interested in it right now

JUICIER juiciness is afoot.

Backpedaling, and with an awful explination.

not buying titus' copper stuff btw

but I do
VOTE: Copper

eh

Sup.

Titus and Icher are town.

I'm going to ignore the arguments that have already taken place and vote for the actual mafia.

Vote: TehBrawlGuy

The whole statistics discussion is stupid and doesn't read natural. Feels like a poor attempt at distancing to me, as does Ircher's "go vote shotty". VOTE: Ircher

Copper case has no real merit imo. Copper had no reason to unvote/vote anyone else, but also no reason to actually believe Ircher was more likely to be scum than anyone else at the time.

Primarily because in this post, he is setting himself up to vote for both Shotty/Ircher as opposed to taking one side. It looks like he's trying really hard to agree with both players at the same time.

Also, I want to see him under pressure.

I like your style. I think you're town.

He is town reading someone for play style.... this is scum trying to do something.

i keep seeing DGB, zito, and reck, with every post he makes.

this is the biggest compliment I have ever got, I'm literally in tears

shut the fuck up shitty

I mean seriously?

i'm back


titus are you sure persivul isn't a scum lean just because he's voting you?
you seem pretty omgus-y this game, unlike what i would expect from you


not a fan of the ircher wagon at all.

not a fan of the TBG wagon at all.


ETL vs titus felt kind of contrived. they both come out looking worse to me
i don't like the nitpicky-ness, it seemed far too nitpicky on both their parts

all this battle-of-the-ego stuff is very meh, to me


titus + ircher is null
titus > copper is bad


titus is just appearing everywhere now isn't she



that's probably a towntell.

wagon on her is curious. i highly doubt titus does this as town.

So the guy trying to lynch ircher off of my fake bullshit it now against the ircher wagon as soon as it looses momentum? No way.

[Persivul]

I agree that there's some suspicious stuff there, and particularly early. Plus, he has a different tone from our last game in which he was town. He's more measured in this game. But reviewing his ISO overall, I think it looks town. He's looking at different people, and generally the correct people. When challenged, he explains, but doesn't get defensive.

[Titus]

@Nahdia, Look at my readwall. That's what you need to know.

@Magna, When I look for town, I look for unlikely to be scum. Townie behaviors can be faked. Having less scum motivation cannot. Sometimes, there's a rare flash that screams "this is town" but that's few and far between.

@Shotty

If it were scum jumping around the wagons would have waited for town and pushed really hard.

So Shotty, you think there's no town on my wagon?

@Persivul, You coming around to me being town?You could also totally bus Zakk. The lies about agreeing with TBG were terribad.

[drmyshottyizsik]

@Nahdia, Look at my readwall. That's what you need to know.

@Magna, When I look for town, I look for unlikely to be scum. Townie behaviors can be faked. Having less scum motivation cannot. Sometimes, there's a rare flash that screams "this is town" but that's few and far between.

@Shotty

If it were scum jumping around the wagons would have waited for town and pushed really hard.

So Shotty, you think there's no town on my wagon?

@Persivul, You coming around to me being town?You could also totally bus Zakk. The lies about agreeing with TBG were terribad.

Either scum is on your wagon or you are scum. I know I'm town, and I have a scum read on you, so I think the more likely outcome is that you are scum.

[drmyshottyizsik]

I agree that there's some suspicious stuff there, and particularly early. Plus, he has a different tone from our last game in which he was town. He's more measured in this game. But reviewing his ISO overall, I think it looks town. He's looking at different people, and generally the correct people. When challenged, he explains, but doesn't get defensive.

Scum team: Titus, Ircher, Copper
3rd party: Zakk

I still think this holds true, and it fits the was Zakk is playing.

[Nahdia]

page 15

SCUM
Copper, projectmatt, MagnaOfIllusion

MIXED VIBES
Egg, ETL, Ircher

IDK LOL
Killthestory, SethYazura

TOWN
TehBrawlGuy, Titus, Shotty, Lowell

[Nahdia]

page 20

SCUM
Copper, projectmatt, MagnaOfIllusion, Ircher
MIXED VIBES
Egg, ETL, zakk
IDK LOL
Killthestory, SethYazura
TOWN
TehBrawlGuy, Titus, Shotty, Lowell, cytheflyguy, Aneninen, Expedience