New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[zakk]

*handwave*

[Titus]

That's not a handwaive. You argued that I suddenly dropped Copper from my scumreads because of the revelation of the hood. That isn't true though. I was starting to come around on Copper well before hand.

You have tried every single thing to not lynch my scumreads and now you're just voting me out of lack of recourse anywhere else. You've floated almost every other slot in the game.

So yeah...

[Persivul]

zakk, can you vote magna?

i could, but i don't really want to

much prefer ETL because her reads are shite and it seems they are intentionally so

Yeah, but now that the hood is out me v. magna makes sense.

Titus' reads are also shite but i am not sure if that's just her being wrong or not

Same boat I was in, but her reluctance to wagon me is moving her into the scum zone.

[zakk]

You have tried

every single thing

to not lynch my scumreads and now you're just voting me out of lack of recourse anywhere else. You've floated

almost every other slot

in the game.

now who's blatantly misrepresenting?

do you honestly think ircher and copper and brawl and persivul and me are all scum together?
or is it possible that you're just wrong? (or scum, which is what i'm guessing)

to try not to lynch your scumreads:

i could easily have hopped on a wagon and shut my mouth. i didn't. and won't.
i could easily have ignored controversy and played it cool. i didn't. and won't.

the problem here for me is, i haven't seen you be so AGGRESSIVELY BAD -- EVER.

in games i've seen you play. in games i've played with you. in games i've modded you in. in meatworld/real life mafia.

you're only THIS SHITTY as scum.

[Persivul]

since you realized it was not to your townie-image benefit to be scumreading more than one person in there, suddenly you're not scumreading copper any more

No, she was off copper before the hood was known. But yeah, she's probably scum. Titus and magna apparently want to scum read me enough to discredit me...but they don't really want to see me flip. That's scum.

[zakk]

zakk, can you vote magna?

i could, but i don't really want to

much prefer ETL because her reads are shite and it seems they are intentionally so

Yeah, but now that the hood is out me v. magna makes sense.

why is it you vs. magna?

i had it as liger being town, and you being town, and it being between seth and magna.

but you're saying it's you vs. magna.
implying that you know one of

you two

is scum.

[Killthestory]

I know god has got me, I don't every worry,
I get it by any means necessary,
The haters want my career dead and buried,
That's a long shot, fuckin' Stephen Curry.

[zakk]

and that's disregarding that we don't

know

if one of the neighborhood is scum.

[zakk]

I know god has got me, I don't every worry,
I get it by any means necessary,
The haters want my career dead and buried,
That's a long shot, fuckin' Stephen Curry.

i will allow this, based on the fact that the warriors won yesterday and curry put up 36 and i'm elated.

[Titus]

since you realized it was not to your townie-image benefit to be scumreading more than one person in there, suddenly you're not scumreading copper any more

No, she was off copper before the hood was known. But yeah, she's probably scum. Titus and magna apparently want to scum read me enough to discredit me...but they don't really want to see me flip. That's scum.

Oh I do. I have 5 people I want to see flip. I got one vote.

The more you two scramble to protect TBG, the more obvious your alignment is.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

Zakk is pretty awfully scum.

VOTE: zakk

"your reads are shit. you are shitty. blehh!"

[TehBrawlGuy]

Why the hell would I comment on my own wagon? FMPoV, it's a wagon on town. I'd rather discuss wagons on potential Scum. If I get you off of me, but you just ML someone else, I don't gain anything.

This is posted from the perspective of someone who doesn’t think scum could be voting him. Because a significant wagon on Town just might be a solid place to look for scum. Yet he dismisses that right out of hand.

Still happy with my vote.

I think two of the people on my wagon (Seth/Titus) are Scum. I'm not pushing them for being on my wagon, because the scummy things they've done are entirely separate, and I can make far more objective points about things other than my own wagon. It's hard to have the perspective to see who's on your own wagon because of shitty confbias, and who's on it because they're scum intentionally trying to misrep you.

On that note, VOTE: Seth. Huerwagon has not gone, which makes me sad. I still think he's the better target, but my vote's doing jack on him, so may as well.

As per usual, I agree entirely with Zakk. Even excluding him being on my rear all day, which is obviously wrong FMPoV, I remember disagreeing with a lot of what he's said. I can absolutely buy that all the shitty reads/pushes are the result of him being Scum and having to fake them all.

[TehBrawlGuy]

*I agree entirely with Zakk on Titus

[Titus]

Mod:Time until deadline including finding subs please?

[Liger_Zero]

Getting my footing in this game is troubling, though I am reading Titus and EspeciallyTheLies as town right now.
I have no idea on my neighborhood buddies.

Zakk I don't like his reasoning on his pushes on players, but I am midlly townreading him.
Persivul and Magna I am unsure of, if one is scum I think its more likely Persivul, but that has no basis than just the general vibe of the posts.

[copper223]

VOTE: TBG
I also thought there was likely 1 scum in the hood and that's why I asked Seth which of those three was his teammate (I thought he was very likely scum and showing him I also had another name in my list would smash his confidence even more).

Zakk's point on Titus "handwaiving is complete nonsense, you can track her copper read and when she starts doubting I am scum pretty easily (she gives plenty of hints, like when she says one of her reads is moving out of her scumpool and she puts me as the last name on her scum pool list, to when she explicitly states I'm out of her pool and Matt is in, and that's before liger took IAI's place).

TBG coming in and agreeing with that terrible point from Zakk, as the only input he is giving when he is the main wagon close to the deadline, has pushed him over to likely scum for me.

Town reading Liger for outing the hood is silly, he hasn't done anything scummy but he is not getting a pass from me because of that in a million years.

@Magma
It doesn't make sense to me to focus mostly on player a) but vote player b).

[Killthestory]

Where the hood where the hood where the hood at?

[TehBrawlGuy]

>pushed him over the edge
>has literally never indicated suspicion of me

a+ job on the lazy scumwagon

[Titus]

TBG, Copper actually voted you before.

[TehBrawlGuy]

oh

it didn't come up in my iso search because he fucked up my name

mb then

[zakk]

TBG why ate you scum

I'm pretty interest gem and its way time to say

Today

TODAY

[zakk]

Epically LIES LIES LIES

[Titus]

This is a bit of an ego post and it's hard to judge it's merit from my perspective, but if Titus, who is looking more and more town here, is right about TGB then Aneninen is also more likely to be scum and to my shame so is Egg; if this is the world we are in it suggests they may be able to communicate in some non standard way given the mod post because they'd need some read coordination to pull it off, ironically in this case part of the faction backing me up is probably the scum team, if so I hate you guys for doing this to me .

VOTE: TGB

How did you not see this?

[TehBrawlGuy]

Because that's not my name? I didn't remember if he'd said anything about me, iso'd, ctrl-f'd Brawl and TBG and found nothing of note.

[Titus]

And you didn't read the wall or notice his vote on you as it happened?