New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

[Titus]

The extension will be at least 48 hours, I'm just not sure if I'll do any more then that.

Ok.

VOTE: Persivul

That'll mean at least 3 days to swing his wagon, and that I think is doable.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

the MOMENT any of scumreads have the largest wagon, I'll be voting them

??? Since when do you wait for that to happen...?

[Titus]

Copper... what the fuck comment are you even making here? How is this game relevant in any way whatsoever?

Do something or get lynched.

Stop making retarded posts and being rude motherfucker.

I'm being rude yet you are calling my posts retarded?

You. Are doing. Fucking. Nothing.

Grow the fuck up. I'm not here to be your best friend. I'm here to catch scum.

Copper, you want to piss me off royally. Use that goddamn word again.

[Titus]

the MOMENT any of scumreads have the largest wagon, I'll be voting them

??? Since when do you wait for that to happen...?

When the other wagon is also my scumread.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I know that because I've actually been here and you haven't. I've been telling stating this for awhile. I observe the fucking patterns here.

Just because I went V/LA for a few days doesn't mean I didn't read the thread when I got back.... Are you saying that I'm incapable of determining patterns in the game? This is such a sideways discredit, it's really gross, Titus.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

the MOMENT any of scumreads have the largest wagon, I'll be voting them

??? Since when do you wait for that to happen...?

When the other wagon is also my scumread.

OK.

[copper223]

I support Titus's point that we have a day to get the lynch in and so should everyone else, banking on an extension is really stupid or coming from scum.

@ETL
Yep, I am commenting on your play (which is abysmal if you are town), you are throwing around insults, which gets old really fast.

In fact I if you continue I'm going to just do the standard thing with your kind, policy lynch every time I have the misfortune of not catching you in the list before the game starts.

[Titus]

I know that because I've actually been here and you haven't. I've been telling stating this for awhile. I observe the fucking patterns here.

Just because I went V/LA for a few days doesn't mean I didn't read the thread when I got back.... Are you saying that I'm incapable of determining patterns in the game? This is such a sideways discredit, it's really gross, Titus.

You've said you didn't bother to read it. I don't mean to be discrediting you as we fucking agree with all our reads. Jeezus. Yet, you're playing semantics with saying how I can know something versus just strongly believe it. Watching patterns is what I do. You want to call that strong belief, whatever. I don't want to fight with you. I will if we have to. I think you're town and I think you're right on your reads on Zakk and Persivul.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

"my kind"

I don't know who you think you are, but grabbing a post about the deadline in a conversation you aren't part of isn't "commenting" on anyone's play.

You are in no position to judge the quality of my play when I've never even seen you anywhere before.

Play the game. Ignore me if your feelings are so hurt. I haven't insulted you or anyone, so seriously, grow the fuck up and stop whining.

[Titus]

I support Titus's point that we have a day to get the lynch in and so should everyone else, banking on an extension is really stupid or coming from scum.

@ETL
Yep, I am commenting on your play (which is abysmal if you are town), you are throwing around insults, which gets old really fast.

In fact I if you continue I'm going to just do the standard thing with your kind, policy lynch every time I have the misfortune of not catching you in the list before the game starts.

I don't think so. ETL and I have fought much harder than this in the past. We aren't policy lynching because you two cannot get along. Blacklist each other if you must, but put it aside here. No one is going to make you two work together but I strongly think (I'll try to use this instead of KNOW) you both are town and you two squabbling does nothing for the town.

I'm not saying you two need to like each other, but if you both are townreading each other, the pissing match does nothing.

If I'm wrong on you both townreading each other, then get that shit sorted and I'll just wait on that.

P.S. Please vote Persivul.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

You've said you didn't bother to read it.

I never said that Titus... I read all 30+ pages of content that accumulated while I was gone.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

I think you're right on your reads on Zakk and Persivul.

I am changing my mind about zakk. I dislike his personality but I think he's town.

[Titus]

You've said you didn't bother to read it.

I never said that Titus... I read all 30+ pages of content that accumulated while I was gone.

That's what I thought you said that you didn't. If you had, that's MY mistake on misreading that. I've been supposing you hadn't and jumped right in after arriving.

[EspeciallyTheLies]

You've said you didn't bother to read it.

I never said that Titus... I read all 30+ pages of content that accumulated while I was gone.

That's what I thought you said that you didn't. If you had, that's MY mistake on misreading that. I've been supposing you hadn't and jumped right in after arriving.

I skipped pages 52-54 before I posted when I returned but I went back and read them the next day after I got some sleep.

[Titus]

I think you're right on your reads on Zakk and Persivul.

I am changing my mind about zakk. I dislike his personality but I think he's town.

*throws hands up* At least we're agreeing on Persivul. I like it. Magna likes. I think Kill will like it. You like it. Lowell likes it. That's almost all the strong voices in the game working together.

It's been like impossible to get a wagon going, and I'm just really frustrated about that.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Egg

– you have a chance to read that exchange that you asked me to remind you of.

Yeah, I’m increasing wary of the narrative that the must be one and only one Scum member in the Neighborhood. Especially in light of all the Multiball speculation being thrown around. Why is it not possible for the 4 of us to contain a Mafia and a Serial Killer or 2 Mafia from possible different factions?

I need to correlate who has been floating Multiball speculation but is thinking that only 1 scum might be in the Neighborhood.

Magna vs Persivul is clearly town vs town. They aren't afraid of being in a smaller scum pool. So it looks like if there is exactly one scum neighbor, it's Copper.

In light of what I just wrote above … does that change your mind at all?

If his personality was of the type that instinctively defends his teammates and he quickly replied nobody, that would have been a nice little scum slip (how is seth_town supposed to know there are none?), so I was happy to give him that out (quickly answering nobody not only would have confirmed him as scum, it would have strongly indicated there was at least one there).

It did not appear to faze in him at all.

Ok. Did you form enough of a personality read to make an assessment of what that reaction meant before he replaced out? Clearly I thought the question was suspect when you asked it given Robert had not even posted and IAI was basically a ghost … I didn’t think you could possibly get any meaning ful reaction with those facts in play.

Egg read is totally gut. I can't place my finger on it but the ISO feels really off. A lot of the "discussion" comes across as forced and LAMISTy, and definitely "peace-maker"-y, which rubs me the wrong way as I don't really see town functioning that way so early on.

Ok. I personally don’t get twigged on his posts as being forced or LAMISTY but that in and of itself isn’t something that has ever been a big scum signal for me.

Thanks for the link – that term must have become part of the lexicon after my first tour of duty.

Does he not like you? The both of you are very similar in play-style to me. Also I ♥ Thor

I think the term that might best describe Thor and my old relationship is “A Mix of Grudging Respect and Annoyance”. In the old days we used to get into it strongly based on strength of personality. I think time has mellowed us both.

[zakk]

This page looks more like town for Zakk.

Even though he's still drastically wrong about me.

if pers turns out to be scum you have nothing to worry about. his lynch is not a great idea though.

and personally i think lynching from within the neighborhood and hoping to hit scum is a terrible idea.

i'd much rather lynch someone outside the hood.

[Titus]

I need to correlate who has been floating Multiball speculation but is thinking that only 1 scum might be in the Neighborhood.

I'm looking forward to the results of this. If you'd like, I could help in the task as well. That does seem like a harder task to accomplish but very worthwhile.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I'm looking forward to the results of this. If you'd like, I could help in the task as well. That does seem like a harder task to accomplish but very worthwhile.

Actually that would be helpful ... if only collating the active Multiball theory espousing players.

Seth's slot I would count. And I know Shotty floated it. It is going to take some time to ISO everyone and search for multiball / multi.

[Titus]

This page looks more like town for Zakk.

Even though he's still drastically wrong about me.

if pers turns out to be scum you have nothing to worry about. his lynch is not a great idea though.

and personally i think lynching from within the neighborhood and hoping to hit scum is a terrible idea.

i'd much rather lynch someone outside the hood.

Why? The neighborhood has, provided the wiki theory is accurate, 1/4 odds of hitting scum

at worst

. Then there's presumably lower odds in the rest of the game. With 4/5 in 17. 4/17 = worse. The only way for it to be strategically advantageous to lynch outside the hood is if you're supposing 6 scum in the game.

[Titus]

I'm looking forward to the results of this. If you'd like, I could help in the task as well. That does seem like a harder task to accomplish but very worthwhile.

Actually that would be helpful ... if only collating the active Multiball theory espousing players.

Seth's slot I would count. And I know Shotty floated it. It is going to take some time to ISO everyone and search for multiball / multi.

I'll take the top half and search multiball, you take the bottom half?

[Persivul]

@Persivul
Why are you so eager to flip if you aren't even sure that Titus/ETL are scum and pushing on you?

First, it was partially a test. Scum!Titus should have been all over me with news of the hood. Instead she just hangs on the TBG wagon.

Second, when is town ever sure? Right now I would say:

ETL - scum
Titus - probably scum, possibly bad town, but as she's taken a leadership role the latter is still pretty damaging
copper/liger - one of these is scum

[Persivul]

@copper:

but if pers is town is town then I feel even more confident in ETL scum

This is why I'm cool with a lynch. I think there are clear associatives to be drawn.

[Titus]

I want Titus to be town. she LOOKS town but I don't trust my gut there.

With the revelation of the existence and composition of the hood, town!Titus would have been all over me.

@Persivul
Why are you so eager to flip if you aren't even sure that Titus/ETL are scum and pushing on you?

First, it was partially a test. Scum!Titus should have been all over me with news of the hood. Instead she just hangs on the TBG wagon.

Second, when is town ever sure? Right now I would say:

ETL - scum
Titus - probably scum, possibly bad town, but as she's taken a leadership role the latter is still pretty damaging
copper/liger - one of these is scum

So which one is it Persy?

[Titus]

That's setting aside the fact I have been pushing you as scum for the entire game anyway..